He is powerful, but luckily all he wants is to be left alone with his girlfriend.
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Is the Hulk the cheapest comic book superhero ever?
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He is powerful, but luckily all he wants is to be left alone with his girlfriend.
shaowebb
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The Plutonian.
All other answers are WRONG. They may be OP, but no one is as frighteningly broken as The Plutonian. Its why his sociopathic breakdown is probably the best thing I've read in Comics in years.
Its hinting the guy may be so powerful that he can alter reality Dr. Manhattan style if he ever realized his mind was what allowed him all of his far superior to Superman level strength. Seriously...the Hulk is hinted at having certain levels of strength as possible while The Plutonian has already exhibited it
Apparently the sociopath and all his mind reading, eye lasering, super strengthing, super hearing, flying glory is really the strongest mind ever. He just thinks he's strong and this alone is enabling him to do crazy shit like lift large structures without them breaking apart due to structural stress.
It looks like he may realize his power's true source soon and at that point the fucker could unmake reality. The Flash is fast, but Plutonian will hear his thoughts and be able to act before he can do them when this realization hits.
The Plutonian IS the scariest fucker ever created. Leave it to Mark Waid to create a monster this compelling.
All other answers are WRONG. They may be OP, but no one is as frighteningly broken as The Plutonian. Its why his sociopathic breakdown is probably the best thing I've read in Comics in years.
Its hinting the guy may be so powerful that he can alter reality Dr. Manhattan style if he ever realized his mind was what allowed him all of his far superior to Superman level strength. Seriously...the Hulk is hinted at having certain levels of strength as possible while The Plutonian has already exhibited it
Dude withstood the force of several blackholes and stood the fuck up in an issue
Apparently the sociopath and all his mind reading, eye lasering, super strengthing, super hearing, flying glory is really the strongest mind ever. He just thinks he's strong and this alone is enabling him to do crazy shit like lift large structures without them breaking apart due to structural stress.
It looks like he may realize his power's true source soon and at that point the fucker could unmake reality. The Flash is fast, but Plutonian will hear his thoughts and be able to act before he can do them when this realization hits.
The Plutonian IS the scariest fucker ever created. Leave it to Mark Waid to create a monster this compelling.
Sentry could have been stronger than Hulk if he overcome his mental instability problem. Right now I think Hope Summer can beat him. If she is able to use her power to it's fullest, then she is able to access the power of the entire mutant population, like several Omega Level mutants(Franklin Richard, Ice Man, Vulcan, etc...) or powers that helps against the Hulk. The ability to absorb kinetic force and turn it into energy or strength for example, everytime the hulk hits her she gets stronger. Even without without mimicry, she is probably the most powerful telepath/telekinetic on earth(Stryfe says she is potentially more powerful than he is when she was still young).
Red Hulk wins, he absorbs the gamma radiation of the green Hulk turning him back into Banner.
Dreams-Visions
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Living Tribunal might have something to say about that.
shaowebb
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Not really. She comes with a limit to how much she can copy off the original. For example she tried to copy Aries power and could only contain some of it. It packed a wallop but she didn't get it all. I think awhile back in X-treme X-men they hinted that if she tried to absorb someone too powerful it could potentially damage her molecular makeup due to overstressing them.
bigboss370
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The Plutonian.
All other answers are WRONG. They may be OP, but no one is as frighteningly broken as The Plutonian. Its why his sociopathic breakdown is probably the best thing I've read in Comics in years.
Its hinting the guy may be so powerful that he can alter reality Dr. Manhattan style if he ever realized his mind was what allowed him all of his far superior to Superman level strength. Seriously...the Hulk is hinted at having certain levels of strength as possible while The Plutonian has already exhibited itDude withstood the force of several blackholes and stood the fuck up in an issue
Apparently the sociopath and all his mind reading, eye lasering, super strengthing, super hearing, flying glory is really the strongest mind ever. He just thinks he's strong and this alone is enabling him to do crazy shit like lift large structures without them breaking apart due to structural stress.
It looks like he may realize his power's true source soon and at that point the fucker could unmake reality. The Flash is fast, but Plutonian will hear his thoughts and be able to act before he can do them when this realization hits.
The Plutonian IS the scariest fucker ever created. Leave it to Mark Waid to create a monster this compelling.
he's basically what would happen if Superman lost it and turned evil. at one point even Superman's powers were explained by psionics like Plutonian's is.
shaowebb
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Pretty much though now he's reaching Dr. Manhattan levels. At that point everything will be rewritten in his own image is my guess.
PhoncipleBone
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What? I don't get that at all. A being that can bend space to his own will, and he just wants to be left alone with his girlfriend? The idea he even needs a girlfriend kind of seems odd. (Enter nerd joke here.) I mean, Q for example from Star Trek, once again, I'm not an expert, but the guy is basically in control of similar things as MM, and he's just bored with things. He wouldn't need a girlfriend or any companionship, as it seems to be something he would have moved on past from.
Is he like a regular man? Will he die someday? Did he gain these powers, or was he created this way?
bigboss370
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i'm just waiting for the series to end to pick it up, i don't like reading up to certain point in one go and then having to wait for newer issues. the "what if superman turned evil" aspect got me into Irredeemable in the first place, and damn did it pay off
IrishNinja
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not every.
it'd be a good fight! panther too. for real though, cap could take him.
his power set's fundamentally different, though - i stopped reading a while back but they explained it pretty well at one point, why he's able to pick up shit like cruise liners and not just crush them or fly right through.
I'm just going by memory. I remember Red Hulk absorbing all the gamma radiation of Green Hulk and force him to revert back to Banner.
shaowebb
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I believe they messed with that or something to cover for Green Hulk in that one. I can't remember whether they went the "you don't have that power any more" or the "he got angry too quick to absorb" route, but they basically nerfed it to end the Hulk vs Hulk comics in favor of Green.
PhoncipleBone
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Well, he did wipe out an entire universe.
And recreated it.
Manmademan
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Depends what you mean by "more powerful."
"King Thor" when he had the full power of the Odinforce was more powerful than the hulk in just about every way you can think of. Had crazy time powers, Vaporized Cap's shield (in an alternate future), Killed the destroyer in one shot, the whole 9. He's been powered down since then though- it's hard to write stories with someone this broken. Odin and Zeus typically operate at this level, but aren't really "heroes" in the traditional sense.
Gladiator is as powerful as he thinks he is (yes, really) and at his best has destroyed planets in a single hit, outrun supernovas, and torn stars apart. Shake his confidence and his power goes down though. I'm not sure he really counts as a "hero" though- he's not bad, but not necessarily good either.
Adam warlock usually runs around with the soul gem- he's fairly strong without it, but with it he can just steal an opponent's soul and permanently imprison it in the gem.
The Surfer MAY be more powerful than the hulk, but his power level depends on how much Galactus gives him. There really isn't an ability he doesn't have (Surfer has absorbed the power of entire suns, evolved a planet to death, thrown opponents to the end of time to get rid of them, and has matter manipulation that makes Dr. Manhattan look like a rank amateur), and the power cosmic is virtually inexhaustible- When he's not actively acting as Galactus' herald, he's a lot weaker.
Quasar is another cosmic hero that's best defined as a green lantern whose abilities don't depend on willpower. The power source of the bands is infinite, and he can make whatever he thinks of, operate at warp speeds, control all known forms of energy, blast things to atoms, etc. He's been known to just dump particularly troublesome opponents into the "quantum zone" where his energy comes from from time to time.
Thanos is more powerful than the hulk is- full stop. This is explained away as being connected to an infinite power source of some kind. A "regular" Thanos (without any infinity gems) KO'ed an enraged, power gem equipped(!) Thor then immediately fought Odin to a Standstill. He's not a hero by any means, though marvel has a habit of writing him as an anti-hero (or at least, not a villain) from time to time.
Molecule Man was probably the most powerful person in existence- he could do literally anything. Against him hulk would be vaporized, turned into a plant, etc etc. Started out as a villain, was eventually written into an anti-hero, then became deranged before sentry killed him.
Dr. Strange's power is also infinite, for all practical purposes. At his best he's defeated cosmic entities like the in-betweener with infinite power, countered the infinity gems one by one, and merged himself with eternity, becoming the avatar of all that is. Strange's power set varies so wildly though that it's basically up to the writer as to how strong he is. At the moment I don't think he's sorceror supreme, so he's weaker than his "classic" incarnation.
There's a few Omega Level mutants with "incalculable" power levels- "X man" is probably the strongest of these. At his most powerful his strength was comparable to the Phoenix Force, but i'm pretty sure he's been powered down since coming back from the dead.
Villains are a lot easier to find than heroes operating on this level though- since ludicrously powerful heroes are difficult to write interesting stories about.
Parallax
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couldn't Molecule Man just tear him apart at the molecular level?
"While the Living Tribunal has stated that the Molecule Man's power is practically limitless, Reece himself has stated it to be below that of Eternity and the Tribunal."
Molecule man has become bitchmade and scattered to the beyond by the sentry.
And beta ray bill needs to be mentioned if thor is.
shaowebb
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This is how I see "Irredeemable" ending. Plutonian is about there.
Yup. Sentry basically said "nope" to Molecule Man's powers working on him and then proclaimed he also had Molecule Man's abilities so Sentry wins that one. And Beta Ray/ Thor are bothed long sinced outgunned by a lot of things in this thread.
Still waiting for someone to topple Plutonian.
Parallax
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If its about the grandiose nature of abilities, then franklin richards has already been named.
HyperBitHero
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Fucking comic books...
Parallax
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Do you have a character in mind?
Franklin Richards?
"God's Beard!"
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God Man is stronger than the Plutonian.
Never heard of Irredeemable, thanks for mentioning it. I'm really in to this wave of 'different' super hero comics. Like Invincible and Kick Ass, but Irredeemable sounds even more up my alley.
Why is this even a discussion? Obviously I was the most powerful but Marvel writers couldn't handle this swag.
Also, more people should read the original 'The Sentry' 10-issue series, I love it. This ending always gets me, too. How there's this whole life he has experienced with people, and they'll never even remember..
Also, more people should read the original 'The Sentry' 10-issue series, I love it. This ending always gets me, too. How there's this whole life he has experienced with people, and they'll never even remember..
Why is this even a discussion? Obviously I was the most powerful but Marvel writers couldn't handle this swag.
Also, more people should read the original 'The Sentry' 10-issue series, I love it. This ending always gets me, too. How there's this whole life he has experienced with people, and they'll never even remember..
Well....shit.
That's like on some Watchmen level of "oh...well life sucks" stuff for me.
Manmademan
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current scarlet witch is also ludricrously strong and right up there with him.
Parallax
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the poor guys life is fucked.
Parallax
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And i've looked at Thor as a prick ever since.
its too bad kid miricleman did it first.....
Manmademan
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the electric blue version of superman worked exactly this way.
How do they explain it away then? How can you just shut off your powers when you change identity? Why would consciously do it in the first place? I understand why other heroes like Captain Marvel does it is because his power doesn't come from him, they came from the Shazam. But superheroes like Superman and Sentry are different, their powers are within them, it stays with them.
Parallax
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bob isnt powerless. hes still bob when he is the sentry. i theorize that due to the mass schizophenia that he has, he subconsiously locked his powers away between his two personas. what he feels are his more heroic abilities reside within bob/sentry(which could also explain his constant costume changes and power variances since his trying to maintain control over the void) and the void has the abilities akin to that of a supervillain, as well as access to bobs abilities. which would explain why he had a new degree of abilities when siege began, with the void crossing over and taking control
Doesn't there kind of come a point when these people who can rewrite reality on a whim just sort of blur together in terms of how strong they are?
Like, if Scarlet Witch can do it, and Phoenix can do it, and Franklin Richards can do it, is there any way of actually determining who is stronger/cheaper?
Like, if Scarlet Witch can do it, and Phoenix can do it, and Franklin Richards can do it, is there any way of actually determining who is stronger/cheaper?
foodtaster
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Puny thread. Witness the most powerful person in Marvel.
TOOA
Parallax
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base it on level of what they create. wanda rewrote her reality, but disgusted by what she created, changed it back with some alterations. franklin created a pocket universe with its own history and people in it, which for a young child is a scary powerful feat.
Dreams-Visions
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Also to add to the list of beings:
Living Tribunal
Death
Rot
Eternity
Infinity
Sentry
along with:
Anyone possessed by the Phoenix Force
Anyone possessing the Infinity Gauntlet
Anyone possessing the Ultimate Nullifier
All of these are more powerful beings than a maxed out Hulk.
Squirrel girl needs it...
Parallax
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some of them after the initial run are quite dissapointing.
im kinda dissapointed that marvel didnt go with a crazy trinity to parody DCs leads. with bob, moon knight and moonstone, you already have the hard work done.
TacticalFox88
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This is why I hate mid 60s and 70s Sci Fi and Comic Books in general. Such overpowered bullshit for no logical reason and there seems to be NO fucking end where the writers say "Okay, this is getting ridiculous." Why I hate shows like Doctor Who because of how OP the Time Lords are. It makes DBZ look tame by comparison.
Superman destroyed a Solar System by sneezing. SNEEZING!!!!
Superman destroyed a Solar System by sneezing. SNEEZING!!!!
Dreams-Visions
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This guy's power
http://marvel.wikia.com/Tyrone_Johnson_(Earth-616)
always seemed a bit OP. tired of someone? Just hit them with the cloak and they disappear...forever.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Tyrone_Johnson_(Earth-616)
always seemed a bit OP. tired of someone? Just hit them with the cloak and they disappear...forever.
Glass Rebel
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Sounds like something out of Harry Potter.
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