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[ElectricBlanketFire]

By far my most hated show.

Everything about it is insulting. Right down to the, "Oh hey Brad! What are you doing?"

"Oh just enjoying a six inch sweet onion chicken teriyaki fresh fit sandwich from Subway."

 

[Zoe]

What happened here, I couldn't find pics?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/06/david-smith-regains-weight_n_1574170.html

650 lbs - 400 lbs + 300 lbs

 

[H.Protagonist]

Her arms look a little skinny, but she doesn't seem too bad overall. Maybe a +5lbs just to be steadier. I feel bad for her. People probably looked sideways at her over her weight, and now that she's lost it, she's getting criticized again. I do think a little more weight would be beneficial to her, but the way people frame it is important.

Their reaction is also compounded by the extreme contrast/shock, of course. My family was the same way when I lost weight. It can be really counter-productive when you're hounded about it, though.

 

[Samara]

does laxatives abuse count as anorexia?
also even if she is anorexic, it made her reach a healthy weight so I don't see what so bad about it.

 

[Zoe]

does laxatives abuse count as anorexia?
also even if she is anorexic, it made her reach a healthy weight so I don't see what so bad about it.

It absolutely counts as anorexia. And that is a horrible outlook to have.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

does laxatives abuse count as anorexia?
also even if she is anorexic, it made her reach a healthy weight so I don't see what so bad about it.

Disgusting post.

 

[Pau]

does laxatives abuse count as anorexia?
also even if she is anorexic, it made her reach a healthy weight so I don't see what so bad about it.

Umm starving your body isn't healthy, at any weight.

 

[Samara]

Umm starving your body isn't healthy, at any weight.

If it's long term, perhaps. I was eating pretty badly last year, but if it wasnt for that, I don't think I'd be at the weight I am now.

 

[steveovig]

Yup, 17.5 is technically anorexic. Not sure how much muscle she has on her but she could stand to gain a little more muscle to get away from that 17.5.

 

[Chumly]

I hate it when people bag on skinny people but she does look anorexic to me. Her arms look gaunt.

 

[RM8]

Yup, 17.5 is technically anorexic. Not sure how much muscle she has on her but she could stand to gain a little more muscle to get away from that 17.5.

Very severely underweight: Less than 15
Severely underweight: From 15 to 16
Underweight: 16 to 18.5

Being underweight is not "technically" being anorexic, lol.

 

[Chezzymann]

It looks liked she aged 20 years in that before and after photo.

 

[steveovig]

Very severely underweight: Less than 15
Severely underweight: From 15 to 16
Underweight: 16 to 18.5

Being underweight is not "technically" being anorexic, lol.

Going by the American College of Sports Medicine, it is anorexic.

 

[Devolution]

Chicago.

I see 'skinny' people all the time. But not 17.5 BMI.

17.5 BMI is unhealthy.

Skin and bones.

Unhealthy is relative when you're underweight. My vitals always check out. And my diet has always been good.

 

[RM8]

Going by the American College of Sports Medicine, it is anorexic.

I'm going to keep using the World Health Organization standards, I think Plus anorexia is a condition, and not really a weight range.

 

[SeanR1221]

When you can see the bones in the elbow like that, you've taken it too far.

She doesn't look good.

Sharp elbows

 

[mr jones]

Unhealthy is relative when you're underweight. My vitals always check out. And my diet has always been good.

From the few pictures i've seen of you Devo, I'd never call you underweight. You seem pretty healthy.

 

[Devolution]

Going by the American College of Sports Medicine, it is anorexic.

Anorexia is an eating disorder in which people purposefully abstain from/restrict food. It shouldn't be applied to weight without any context.

From the few pictures i've seen of you Devo, I'd never call you underweight. You seem pretty healthy.

I'm at 17.7 on a good day, so it really depends on body type, diet and maintaining healthy standards. This is why I don't particularly like BMI. It's a number that says nothing about the habits of the person in question.

 

[Zoe]

If it's long term, perhaps. I was eating pretty badly last year, but if it wasnt for that, I don't think I'd be at the weight I am now.

I don't think you'll find many people in their right minds who would agree with you.

 

[StriateEnd]

Far healthier than when she was obese. Also much better looking than when she was obese.

 

[NekoFever]

Going by the American College of Sports Medicine, it is anorexic.

Anorexia is a psychological disorder in which people have an irrational fear of gaining weight and essentially starve themselves to lose it. You don't suddenly become anorexic by being under a certain weight – anorexia is to do with the behaviours someone might have used to get to that state.

Being severely underweight may be a warning sign of possible anorexia, but it has nothing to do with the condition itself. Otherwise everyone who was starving due to famine would be anorexic, which is a ridiculous and frankly offensive argument.

 

[steveovig]

My original post was just a classification. I know the general details on what anorexia is. The ACSM was just giving their medical definition. Either way, a BMI of 17.5 isn't good. She may not be getting enough macronutrients each day to go along with her exercising, which isn't good.

 

[BruiserBear]

She looks much older than 24. Does that often happen to people who quickly lose large amounts of weight?

I think she looks older precisely because she's lost too much weight. It makes the skin on her face appear looser, and more wrinkled.

She definitely needs another 10-20 pounds on her. She'd probably look great that way.

 

[jett]

She looks decidedly unhealthy.

 

[teh_pwn]

Yeah, a little bit too much. But way better than before. Seriously, I don't know how people can be outraged in concern when there are people that are walking heart attacks all over the place.

 

[IceCold]

She looks too skinny, especially her arms. She needs to hit the gym.

 

[Rookje]

It looks liked she aged 20 years in that before and after photo.

That's because of loose skin. That's what sucks about being significantly overweight. Even when you lose the weight you still won't look like you would if you never gained it in the first place. Even a short amount of time such as a pregnancy term will do a number on you depending on your genetics and how much weight you gain. It's best to be thin most of your life then gain a little weight/"mass" when you get older, as it will make your skin look smoother and more taut by stretching it out and removing wrinkles.

 

[Malvolio]

Yeah, a little bit too much. But way better than before. Seriously, I don't know how people can be outraged in concern when there are people that are walking heart attacks all over the place.

The outrage is probably more focused on the show itself. Watching people be rewarded for unhealthy behavior goes against everything the show should be about.

 

[WalkMan]

Honestly if she's happy then she's happy. Stop telling her she'd look better with 20 more lbs on her when she clearly worked towards this weight. What's the opposite of fat shaming? Fit shaming? Non-healthy people ragging on fit people?

 

[Skilotonn]

So the people watching this show, called The Biggest Loser, are mad that she lost so much weight, which is actually the goal of the show they're watching?

Alright.

Anyways, good for her, she just needs to build up a little mass and she's good. I don't watch the show, but for her to make such a transformation without stretch marks or sagging skin is incredible.

 

[Zoe]

The outrage is probably more focused on the show itself. Watching people be rewarded for unhealthy behavior goes against everything the show should be about.

The trainers didn't seem too happy. The show probably won't let them comment though.

 

[Komo]

That's terrible, she's way too thin.

 

[Stumpokapow]

My original post was just a classification. I know the general details on what anorexia is. The ACSM was just giving their medical definition. Either way, a BMI of 17.5 isn't good. She may not be getting enough macronutrients each day to go along with her exercising, which isn't good.

http://www.acsm.org/docs/current-comments/eatingdisorder.pdf

ACSM current comment on anorexia; absolutely no mention of BMI.

Where are you seeing the ACSM's "medical definition" of anorexia as being connected to BMI?

 

[steveovig]

http://www.acsm.org/docs/current-comments/eatingdisorder.pdf

ACSM current comment on anorexia; absolutely no mention of BMI.

Where are you seeing the ACSM's "medical definition" of anorexia as being connected to BMI?

I've got one of their workbooks for the PT Certification. I can scan it if you'd like lol! It does also list a second part, having at least 15% lower body weight than what is expected for a person's height. They can be contradictory at times. I've had a hardcover ACSM book contradict the workbook. The hardcover has nothing on anorexia, just the review workbook. Why are we arguing this though? We can all agree that a 17.5 BMI is pretty damn low.

 

[Apeopleman]

girl in red is salty

Thats a really nice jacket. Craftsmanship looks ace.

Anyone happen to know the make?

 

[Zoe]

It does also list a second part, having at least 15% lower body weight than what is expected for a person's height.

What does it say for 5'5"?

 

[Stumpokapow]

Why are we arguing this though?

Because anorexia has nothing to do with your weight. You can be severely medically underweight and not anorexic. You can be fat and anorexic. You can have an eating disorder and not be anorexic.

 

[steveovig]

Because anorexia has nothing to do with your weight. You can be severely medically underweight and not anorexic. You can be fat and anorexic. You can have an eating disorder and not be anorexic.

Dude, I don't know everything about the disorder, just what I've read so far. I can see how skinny she is and what her BMI and make a guess on her being unhealthy. I'm not a nutritionist or a dietician, just a trainer.

Here's a definition of anorexia that I just googled...

Anorexia nervosa is an eating disorder that makes people lose more weight than is considered healthy for their age and height. Persons with this disorder may have an intense fear of weight gain, even when they are underweight. They may diet or exercise too much or use other ways to lose weight.

From that definition, I'm lead to believe that people can be classified as anorexic, based on what the ACSM has said. Your definition may be right too, not arguing that.

 

[Samara]

Dude, I don't know everything about the disorder, just what I've read so far. I can see how skinny she is and what her BMI and make a guess on her being unhealthy. I'm not a nutritionist or a dietician, just a trainer.

What is it about her that makes her look unhealthy? She's got lean muscles all over.

 

[speculawyer]

does laxatives abuse count as anorexia?
also even if she is anorexic, it made her reach a healthy weight so I don't see what so bad about it.

Well if she is anorexic, she won't maintain a healthy weight . . . she'll keep dropping. And that will be trouble. But if she were to remain at this weight, I think she'd be fine. But I doubt she'll maintain this weight . . . she'll probably go in one way or the other.

 

[captive]

this actually isn't that uncommon, to go from one extreme to the other. Eating disorders are about control. Biggest loser doesn't actually treat the underlying issues that often cause weight gain, which is why many contestants regain the weight shortly after leaving the show.

She does look too thin, unhealthy.

I really wish BMI would go away though.

 

[Zoe]

What is it about her that makes her look unhealthy? She's got lean muscles all over.

That's not what your forearms look like when you have "lean" muscles.

She looks like an extreme marathon runner.

 

[Rookje]

Thats a really nice jacket. Craftsmanship looks ace.

Anyone happen to know the make?

Probably an expensive mall brand (gucci, dior). You can get something like that from Temple of Jawnz for a fraction of the price + have it made to your exact measurements/body.

(Don't get epaulets like the biggest loser guy has. Not a good look.)

 

[captive]

Far healthier than when she was obese. Also much better looking than when she was obese.

you don't know this, being too thin can cause just as much health issues with your body as being too fat. In women in particular, they can lose their period from being underweight.

 

[thoseAREmySHOES]

I just want to say, I hate the BMI scale. I don't have a better alternative, but it doesn't factor in for different body types in the slightest.

 

[Vyroxis]

She doesn't look attractive at all to me, she looks like a walking corpse. There is nothing to her arms or legs, at all.

 

[Dead Man]

Apparently she also shrunk about three inches.

Indeed.

 

[Rookje]

 

[MightyHealthy]

I went from one extreme to another...from 314 to 174 in about 10 months. I felt almost gaunt by that point, metabolism very high. I began eating more, and I feel much more comfortable at 186.

When you can see the bones in the elbow like that, you've taken it too far.

She doesn't look good.

and the wrist. blech.

 

[Buckethead]

Is Dolvet still the other trainer?

Seems like they're trying to demonize him.