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[Mister Wolf]

Why does there have to be a war?

They(Sony Fans) know Microsoft is transitioning to selling living room PC boxes that behave like consoles and they don't want that device to have access to Playstation games. This device will be a direct alternative to buying a PS6 since it will be able to play the same Sony games(at better performance).

 

[Danjin44]

"war" what war? people's imaginary internet war that people love to argue with each other?

 

[Tobimacoss]

Steam has PC on lock, Sony trying to compete would be a waste of time and money.

They absolutely could compete. But they would need to leverage PS+ Premium similar to how Gamepass does it. Maybe they should create a $30 Day 1 tier too.....

Either that or timed exclusivity.

Sony can't keep ignoring PC, Cloud, Mobile, they need to extend the PSN ecosystem before it becomes too late/difficult.

Wolverine would be good game to start off a Sony PC store with.

 

[Aenima]

Xbox is not dead lol. Microsoft have like 10 times the money of SONY. They could literally have 5 generations of consoles fail and it still wont be a dent in their wallets.

They have so much money they had to close studios and fire more than 9000 ppl just in 2025 to make room for more money. They are selling so many consoles, some retailers dont even have xboxs anymore cuz they sold out past, present and future stock. Xbox is a beast!

 

[Mr Moose]

They absolutely could compete. But they would need to leverage PS+ Premium similar to how Gamepass does it. Maybe they should create a $30 Day 1 tier too.....

Either that or timed exclusivity.

Sony can't keep ignoring PC, Cloud, Mobile, they need to extend the PSN ecosystem before it becomes too late/difficult.

Wolverine would be good game to start off a Sony PC store with.

They do all of this stuff. They don't need to make a pointless store for PC.

 

[Tobimacoss]

They do all of this stuff. They don't need to make a pointless store for PC.

I can't sign up to PS+ Premium and use it on mobile or PC. What Sony does is only strengthen Steam and Epic.

 

[Artistic]

"war" what war? people's imaginary internet war that people love to argue with each other?

 

[Mr Moose]

I can't sign up to PS+ Premium and use it on mobile or PC. What Sony does is only strengthen Steam and Epic.

They make mobile games. They make PC games. They do cloud crap.
You can use their remote play app if you really need to.

PS Remote Play | Download the PS Remote Play app and stream games to your device | PlayStation

Stream your PS4 games to any compatible iOS or Android device, PC or Mac, PlayStation Vita, or PS TV. Download the free app now.

www.playstation.com

 

[VGA-Games]

The opposite is also true since PS2 destroyed GameCube

Even then Nintendo doesn't cared about Sony

Nintendo is always doing their own Thing.

 

[Gaiff]

They absolutely could compete. But they would need to leverage PS+ Premium similar to how Gamepass does it. Maybe they should create a $30 Day 1 tier too.....

Either that or timed exclusivity.

Sony can't keep ignoring PC, Cloud, Mobile, they need to extend the PSN ecosystem before it becomes too late/difficult.

Wolverine would be good game to start off a Sony PC store with.

Sony is releasing games on PC, has a cloud service, and a mobile division. How are they ignoring those markets?

They have to be measured and careful in their approach, because their bread and butter is still the PlayStation consoles and PSN. Going all in with a PC store would be a terrible idea. The majority of their catalog simply don't appeal to PC gamers and they'd just alienate more of them by forcing yet another storefront upon them.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

 

[Ebrietas]

Depends on how similar steam os boxes are to ps5. Because if they start playing in the same space as Sony they will have to rethink their strategy.

 

[Sorcerer]

It never occurred to me. Perhaps Microsoft putting Steam on their console is not only a step towards making Steam OS less viable but also stopping Steam from putting out a console. I mean Valve benefits anyway if Steam is on the next Xbox so they themselves might take a look at that and not go forward with a console plan. Microsoft basically would be consolizing Steam on their own dime. I bet if Steam OS on the current handhelds had gained more traction, they might think twice about putting out a Steam Deck 2.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Sony can adjust anytime, anyway they want

They never promised anything to PC gamers and they don't give a fuck about Valve. It was always a case by case strategy

Now that mini PCs and PC handhelds are trying to take away some of their market share, they will react

Remember that they are coming back to the handheld market as well soon according to leaks

 

[CJ_75]

This same question pops up every couple of months. There's really no reason for Sony to change its current strategy. PlayStation, Xbox, and the Switch 2 are consoles: devices made for gaming, whether solo or multiplayer. With few exceptions, they're usually played on a TV screen.

PC gaming is a whole different beast. PCs are rarely found in living rooms, and they're usually paired with a monitor. People use them for surfing the web, light office work, photo and video editing, things you don't do on a console. That's why gaming PCs aren't naturally tied to the TV environment, unlike consoles, which dominate that space for millions of players.

Personally, I use my gaming PC exclusively on a TV in the living room. More people are doing the same, but I doubt it will ever replace the console's spot there. The main issues are the cost, noise, and bulky design, not everyone wants that sitting visibly in a nicely arranged living room.

Consoles and PCs are two separate ecosystems; they don't compete directly. Sony isn't going to leave money on the table. They'll keep releasing some of their PlayStation titles on PC because selling hundreds of thousands or even millions of copies to the PC community helps fund new projects. Games are expensive to make, and that extra revenue matters.

Plus, Sony bought Nixxes specifically to handle PC ports of PlayStation games. So there's absolutely no sign they plan to change their approach.

 

[bitbydeath]

They absolutely could compete. But they would need to leverage PS+ Premium similar to how Gamepass does it. Maybe they should create a $30 Day 1 tier too.....

Either that or timed exclusivity.

Sony can't keep ignoring PC, Cloud, Mobile, they need to extend the PSN ecosystem before it becomes too late/difficult.

Wolverine would be good game to start off a Sony PC store with.

Nah, look to everything Epic has done, they haven't gotten anywhere close. It's already too late, doubly so for someone who also sells on other platforms (consoles).

 

[Neofire]

Sony games cost too much to produce now so they need PC money. There is no war.

Yeah they desperately need that 2% in revenue they get from PC port......

 

[Mister Wolf]

Yeah they desperately need that 2% in revenue they get from PC port......

Must be. They've put every single one of their multimillion selling franchises on PC besides Gran Turismo

 

[Hohenheim]

Give peace a chance, i'd say.
Enjoy your videogames wherever they're played.

I mostly enjoy mine on my PCs, because it's without doubt the best platform for me, and I love building and tinkering with PC's. Undervolting, overclocking etc.
I also have a PS5 and a Switch 2 for the exclusives, but I think Nintendo will be the only console for me next time there's a new "console generation", unless Sony somewhow stop releasing their stuff on PC.

As for sales, I think PC will continue to outgrow the consoles, but there's obviously a place for both PC and consoles.

 

[RickMasters]

What do you think?

Valve clearly want to move Steam into the living room, there are rumors of console-like SteamOS devices and Steam Deck 2 will arrive some day and SteamOS is on other handhelds, Steam will also be on future PC Xbox things if they ever launch.

There was already some PC vs console fighting within the gaming communities. And Steam is the main store on PC. Now that Xbox is dead, is The War simply Steam vs PlayStation now?

If so, do you think Sony will pull out of Steam with their PC ports?

If they already own the 150m or so traditional console market, do they even need to be on PC?

Or do you think they'll take on Steam head on with their own PC launcher and storefront?

No. I want all your exclusives on my PC. if you want to verse on something,how bout me and you go a few rounds on tekken?...kick your ass..yes I will. bet that will make you chill.

 

[ByWatterson]

This is more like

Sony hasn't released anything worth porting since Returnal in 2021.

They literally won Game of the Year last year.

 

[Fess]

No. I want all your exclusives on my PC. if you want to verse on something,how bout me and you go a few rounds on tekken?...kick your ass..yes I will. bet that will make you chill.

Yes I need to chill. But I'm on PC too, left consoles except for exclusives 10 years ago. I'm concerned for the potential consequences of all this. I'm not sure that Sony will keep releasing games on PC going forward. Their userbase will grow more and increase game sales on PlayStation by default when they have monopoly on the highend console segment of the market. Should max out at 150m easily next generation. Why do ports for 2-3m extra copies? And if Valve do something with SteamOS specifically for the living room I'm thinking Sony will start pulling games.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Thinking PC is irrelevant for gamer's attention is full copium, adding arbitrary reasons to protect the little PC hardware in a plastic box with a closed walled OS doesn't change the fact that PC keeps expanding and has much more traction with younger generation because of online games, indies and broadcasts on twitch.

I'm just stating facts, Gabe will obviously work with Phil and stop laughing at Microsoft, He will obviously change his tune about tech advancements in the gaming industry and stop his nonsense about games look don't need to change.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Must be. They've put every single one of their multimillion selling franchises on PC besides Gran Turismo

As someone from the PC side, I just don't see the point of waring for Sony. People who want to go to PC are already on PC, the console gamers exist BY CHOICE. Who knows Microsoft's crazy idea to convert Xbox customers to PC would even work?

There just isn't enough overlap. And recent rising PC prices actually make it even harder to join PC than ever before, because price had always been a sticking point.

Join us or not join us, PC gamers don't care. Sony doesn't care either and that is why they port some stuff to PC. There is a natural divide in the two ecosystems and it had been that way for as long as ID Software existed.

There IS a war brewing though, the Windows vs ValveOS. That is quite serious as Gabe was literally the team leader that created Windows gaming in ancient times. He then used his MS stock options to create Valve and made his empire off of Windows Gaming. But at this point Windows is so bad for gaming now that Gabe might need to push Windows to do better.

 

[Sertyak]

Why is this even a question? Of course Sony wants you to be a PlayStation customer and not a Valve customer. And the opposite is also true.

In the future, whoever has the dominant ecosystem will be difficult to defeat, that's the point of competition. PlayStation can't grow without taking customers from others.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Yeah they desperately need that 2% in revenue they get from PC port......

It's hilarious:

- First, they say PC gamers don't buy 2-year old games for $60 (because they still dream about Day 1 releases on PC that will never happen)
- Then, they say Sony absolutely NEEDS to port to PC for shitty low revenue

I mean just make up your damn mind

 

[owandeseis]

It's too late to change strategy again, they much had more chances to sell their console to PC gamers last gen when their games had a "mistery" aura and were being compared to a Rockstar production, nowadays everybody who wanted already tried these games and the comparison nowadays is with Ubisoft games, even with Steam growing a lot lately, their sequels are doing considerably worse CCU numbers than their first games, and their best selling games on PC are the ones that aren't developed by Sony themselves (Stellar Blade, Helldivers)

Sony will most likely continue with their actual porting strategy as their HW sales haven't been impacted, but even if they went back to exclusivity, nothing would change outside of forums, no impact at all, if they managed to get exclusivity from games what once were exclusive to PS3-4 like Persona, From Soft games, whatever Arrowhead creates next, Stellar Blade 2, etc, it would be different, but Wolverine or Ghost of Yotei won't move the needle for PC players.

This is more like


They literally won Game of the Year last year.

Absolutely nobody in PC wants Astrobot except maybe some parents who might get it for their children when it's cheap, pointless por tbh.

Yeah they desperately need that 2% in revenue they get from PC port......

It's more about profits If they port 2 games per year costing 3-5M each and they get 500-600m

 

[Zathalus]

It's hilarious:

- First, they say PC gamers don't buy 2-year old games for $60 (because they still dream about Day 1 releases on PC that will never happen)
- Then, they say Sony absolutely NEEDS to port to PC for shitty low revenue

I mean just make up your damn mind

2 year old games obviously won't sell as much as a brand new release, but that doesn't mean they don't sell at all. Also, while the yearly revenue might be small when compared to the total, it is still over a billion dollars profit for very little investment.

 

[Bernkastel]

Money coming in after 30% cut for an easy port is nothing. It's certainly better than to say you stay within your closed walls because you get to keep 30%. It doesn't work like that, you get access to a bigger pool of gamers and you make money.

$500M to $700M Sony is making yearly on PC.

Nintendo is being Nintendo, they're in their own world and oblivious to trends. Maybe investors will put pressure. They would also benefit on multiplatform.

There is no war bro. The PC market represents a decent (if not major) market opportunity that PlayStation can continue to penetrate into. Don't need to do much, just release everything 6-12 months after the PS debut and that will keep everyone happy. Played right, it's just free money...and quite margin accretive money too I might add.

Yup. Narrow minded us vs them where the tribe is what fucking platform you use to play games.

As a publisher, Sony should try to make some sales on PC. PC gamers don't have much of a reason to buy a PS other than exclusives, but that isn't what Sony's business is focused on. Sony wants to sell people licensed games. That's 30% free money for being a platform owner. They make games in service to that. Their exclusives differentiate the platform from others and also make some money on their own but they are also something that could sell a million copies on PC depending on the title. Leaving that money on the table is not responsible. It is not like waiting 1 year to get a PS game on PC is holding a PC gamer back from buying a platform they would only play exclusives on. Even if it did, they are not going to be the most valuable customers so the choice is, do we try to force a few thousand people with enough interest in our games to buy a PS to play them, or do we try to sell 100s of thousands of copies of games to PC gamers?

What they should do is try to get a PS store on PC that also has some perks like great controller integration, use of other PS accessories like the handheld and an easy way to play online with PS friends. I get that some PC gamers are anti non steam stores but I can't believe that not having a way to get 100% of the PC revenue is not worth at least evaluating as a possible investment

Do you want to do business in the largest gaming or not?


Consoles are largely unpopular there and the customer acquisition costs would be astronomical to get people to move away from the entrenched PC market.

It's like EGS vs Steam. EGS is perfectly functional. Moneyhatted exclusives. Gives away legitimately free games since it's inception, including huge games like GTAV. And nobody cares. People will simply wait for Steam or disregard the games altogether that are EGS exclusive.

Sony is in the same boat. People will just not buy your games rather than spend $500+ tip to play them, and pay for online as well when there are so many PC games anyway.

Sony fans really out here thinking Sony will stop porting games to pc....holy poop.

I Know right

I could see Sony increasing their porting because why not?

Xbox is zero threat even if the next Xbox console allows Steam somehow

No. It doesn't make sense since you can fucking buy Sony games on Steam

In the little perspective of competition with this "war", Sony already lost

I don't know, I just think that if Sony decides that PC is no longer part of its market strategy and chooses not to port its games to PC anymore, it won't really make a difference to me. But I find it unlikely that this will happen.

Yup, it's BryanK military grade copium

$500M on PC for low cost ports is worth a LOT in profit. Their profit yearly is $1.9B. It melts away. Imagine, that $1.9B is also from the 30% 3rd parties. Their hardware and 1st parties are basically bleeding money like someone got run over by a semi truck.

Ask yourself. What makes Sony more money? Selling games on one platform to some customers? Or selling them on all platforms to all customers?

This isn't about platform competition. It's about what makes these companies the most money. Multiplatform is here to stay folks.

If Sony makes a PC store I will lose my mind.

Sony could do similar. I think they should do Day 1 on PC on their own store, with Cross Buy, Cross saves, including Cloud streaming then launch on other PC stores after 6 months, then add to PS+ Premium catalog after 12 months.

This way, Sony PC store and Sony PS+ Premium sub would both become available on nextgen Magnus hardware.

Sony is launching games on PC because it brings them a sizeable added revenue. Has nothing to do with Xbox and even if the latter would disappear nothing would change in Sony's decisions on PC.

Wolverine would be good game to start off a Sony PC store with.

This same question pops up every couple of months. There's really no reason for Sony to change its current strategy.

I think Nintendo will be the only console for me next time there's a new "console generation", unless Sony somewhow stop releasing their stuff on PC.

's too late to change strategy again, they much had more chances to sell their console to PC gamers last gen when their games had a "mistery" aura and were being compared to a Rockstar production, nowadays everybody who wanted already tried these games and the comparison nowadays is with Ubisoft games, even with Steam growing a lot lately, their sequels are doing considerably worse CCU numbers than their first games, and their best selling games on PC are the ones that aren't developed by Sony themselves (Stellar Blade, Helldivers)

Sony will most likely continue with their actual porting strategy as their HW sales haven't been impacted, but even if they went back to exclusivity, nothing would change outside of forums, no impact at all, if they managed to get exclusivity from games what once were exclusive to PS3-4 like Persona, From Soft games, whatever Arrowhead creates next, Stellar Blade 2, etc, it would be different, but Wolverine or Ghost of Yotei won't move the needle for PC players.

2 year old games obviously won't sell as much as a brand new release, but that doesn't mean they don't sell at all. Also, while the yearly revenue might be small when compared to the total, it is still over a billion dollars profit for very little investment.

People saying Sony will continue to release their games on PC don't understand their strategy.
The PC gamers already know about games like God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon,Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima. They know what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games and Sony first party in general can offer.

Sony has already advertised theirs IPs and studios to PC gamers. Now Sony can chose to not release their games on PC. And those that liked those games would buy a PS5/PS6

 

[Bernkastel]

SteamOS vs WindowsOS.
Although I'm not sure if it'll be a war or a massacre.

It has always been Linux vs Windows vs macOS. Since the 90s.

 

[MarV0]

This is more like


They literally won Game of the Year last year.

Astrobot

Time and time again PC gamers have proven that they do not care about award bait games.

 

[DenchDeckard]

People saying Sony will continue to release their games on PC don't understand their strategy.
The PC gamers already know about games like God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon,Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima. They know what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games and Sony first party in general can offer.

Sony has already advertised theirs IPs and studios to PC gamers. Now Sony can chose to not release their games on PC. And those that liked those games would buy a PS5/PS6

You can't possibly believe this. Seriously, you don't really think this way. Right?

 

[Buggy Loop]

People saying Sony will continue to release their games on PC don't understand their strategy.
The PC gamers already know about games like God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon,Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima. They know what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games and Sony first party in general can offer.

Sony has already advertised theirs IPs and studios to PC gamers. Now Sony can chose to not release their games on PC. And those that liked those games would buy a PS5/PS6

I own most of them and what it showcases to me is how overrated all these years of hype, GOTY awards and sales were. God of War being the best game of all time from IGN comes to mind lol, what a joke, recency bias was through the roof.

They're not even bringing the games that would actually interest me. Gravity rush, Astrobot, Bloodborne, Demo souls, the Ico/SoC/LG series.

If the hype/marketing didn't convince those gamers to buy a PlayStation console in the past, playing them is certainly not the sales pitch you think it is

 

[BennyBlanco]

People saying Sony will continue to release their games on PC don't understand their strategy.
The PC gamers already know about games like God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon,Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima. They know what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games and Sony first party in general can offer.

Sony has already advertised theirs IPs and studios to PC gamers. Now Sony can chose to not release their games on PC. And those that liked those games would buy a PS5/PS6

 

[Sephiran]

LOL
Say anything negative about Xbox :
"YOU ARE A PLAYSTATION FANBOY!!"

I haven't turned my ps5 on in over 3 months and only played 2 games on it this year (and none was first party).


When a company abandons its product (nearly stopped production, porting games to other consoles) midgen, how can they expect to succeed in the next gen?
What guarantees the players have that they won't abandon the next console when things don't go as they planned like they did with Xbox Series?

Yeah, the Wii U sold terrible yet Nintendo kept that train going for 5 years and had it available at retailers even if it sold nothing. While Xbox makes N64 numbers and Microsoft still left a ton of markets during this gen, in Europe, Asia, pretty much everywhere globally. Their next gen is dead outside of the US.

 

[TintoConCasera]

For 500$, I could buy a PS5 and like half a videogame.

Or, I could buy the full LEGO set for Rivendell, which includes 6000+ LEGO pieces of absolute fun, 15 figurines including the whole fellowship of the ring plus a few others like Arwen, Elrond and even BILBO BAGGINGS.

 

[Bernkastel]

If the hype/marketing didn't convince those gamers to buy a PlayStation console in the past, playing them is certainly not the sales pitch you think it is

It didn't because they were under the impression that future games will release on PC. Remember, Sony made a lot of money from PC because people did buy their games. If Sony pulls the plug on PC releases these same gamers who their game on PC will invest in a Sony console.

 

[TheTony316]

The next "war" will be Sony vs themselves. Mainly getting PS5 owners to upgrade to the PS6.

Xbox is done and Nintendo will be 2 gens behind in hardware when the PS6 launches. PC players clearly have no interest in Sony first party games as shown by the numbers.

 

[Cakeboxer]

PC players clearly have no interest in Sony first party games as shown by the numbers.

I wouldn't put it that way, but what did people expect? That PC players would buy like crazy months or even years after release and without any marketing? Without marketing, even the console sales wouldn't have been anywhere near as good.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I wouldn't put it that way, but what did people expect? That PC players would buy like crazy months or even years after release and without any marketing? Without marketing, even the console sales wouldn't have been anywhere near as good.

Yeah. Also PC is a way harsher market. On console you don't have many choices, but on my PC I can buy games released in the 90s up until now. The last God of Soy for 60€ or Thief Gold for 3€? Damn I think I know what's more enticing, at least for me.

 

[Zathalus]

People saying Sony will continue to release their games on PC don't understand their strategy.
The PC gamers already know about games like God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, Horizon,Spiderman and Ghost of Tsushima. They know what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games and Sony first party in general can offer.

Sony has already advertised theirs IPs and studios to PC gamers. Now Sony can chose to not release their games on PC. And those that liked those games would buy a PS5/PS6

I don't think that's the strategy. Horizon, God of War, The Last of Us, and Spider-Man all already have their sequels on PC. So they are tempting PC players to buy a PS5 to play those IPs… by releasing them on PC anyway?

Besides, do you honestly believe any significant amount of PC players who have invested into PC gaming is going to switch over to console for a handful of games released over a decade?

 

[MarV0]

I wouldn't put it that way, but what did people expect? That PC players would buy like crazy months or even years after release and without any marketing? Without marketing, even the console sales wouldn't have been anywhere near as good.

Or maybe the games themselves are barely above Ubisoft slop? PC ports have exposed Sony first party games of what they really are.

Helldivers 2 is only great game that has come out of Sony and it's not a first party game. I've played most of them since hitting PC.

 

[Zathalus]

Or maybe the games themselves are barely above Ubisoft slop? PC ports have exposed Sony first party games of what they really are.

Highly rated? Almost all the games on Steam are in the 90%+ range. Quite a few are rated Overwhelmingly positive even.

I get some here don't enjoy these PlayStation releases, but it appears quite a few do, even on PC.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Or maybe the games themselves are barely above Ubisoft slop? PC ports have exposed Sony first party games of what they really are.

Helldivers 2 is only great game that has come out of Sony and it's not a first party game. I've played most of them since hitting PC.

I agree with you that they are often overrated and overhyped, but pc players mostly didn't find them bad. Therefore, I think calling them "slop" is a bit exaggerated. I still maintain that it's the late release and, above all, the lack of marketing.

 

[yurinka]

Is the main war going forward PlayStation vs Steam? If so, will Sony still do PC ports?

Last time I checked, Sony already was the top 7-8 biggest publisher in Steam history. Sony is very happy with their expansion to PC, which according to them it's very profitable, has a very high ROI and is bringing them new users to PlayStation. Plus is helping them grow in countries like China or Korea.

So I think they'll continue doubling down on it, growing even more with day one releases of live service games like Marathon and late ports of SP games.

I think pretty likely at the start of the next generation Sony will release their PC extension of the PSN storefront, where they'll sell directly their PC games, plus also will sell there 3rd party games. If smart, the games available in both console (including their upcoming portable) and PC PSN will feature seamless crossbuy, crossplay, shared trophies, etc. between the console and PC iterations.

Having defeated all their direct competitors in high end home consoles, I think their next step will be to expand their empire to start to conquer next PC and portables in the next generation with some aggresive push, while also starting to release the first titles of a future expansion to mobile gaming mostly via partnerships with top mobile Asian devs.

I think that to make PC PSN big will take a while, so in that period where they grow it they'll continue releasing their stuff in Steam at least some time after the release in PC PSN.

you guys always not counting Nintendo, they are clearly bigger threat than xbox.
but here we are...

Nintendo did stop competing directly with PlayStation when after GameCube decided to stop pushing for the high end visuals home consoles hardcore market and started to focus instead on a more casual and familiar market plus in their own fans and after the WiiU failure on portables.

Sony and Nintendo target complementary markets with little overlap, the success of one doesn't affect the other one. This generation they have been both breaking records in different areas.

In the near future it may change and they may compete directly again. With the successful experiment of the non-VR 'big' Astro Bot game, pretty likely Sony will start targeting some of these kid friendly/family demographics more seriously traditionally approached by Nintendo ('gummy bears' seems is going to be relatively similar to Smash Bros and many other games), and with their upcoming portable, if not too expensive, may go to compete directly against Switch 2.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Thats all im going to say about your "poor grammAr" comment. Im not even sure what was so wrong about it but the fact that you think you can make an argument in your favor by being grammar police, sorry man you just ended up looking even more stupid. Also what fanboyism, I literally wrote I have a PS5 first, XsX and Steam Deck. So Im a fanboy of xbox??? even though I wrote I am a playstation fan first???. Either way, nice try at an argument but next time come with something more tangible before you call someone a fanboy without even reading what they are advocating. I dont care who is the winner, Im talking from a business perspective, business is good at MS. Your post wont make a dent in their financials.

The main business doing well offers no guarantee that Microsoft will support XBOX given Microsoft has killed many good products.

No, XBOX is not dead and given the market share rise of MacOS, killing it would leave an avenue for Apple to pick up even more customers.

I'm not a "fan" of any of them. Quite frankly, I'd even go as far as to suggest my XBOX recieved the most playtime, by far, this generation, which is the first gen I can ever say that for an XBOX. Nonetheless, those are UI preferences, controller and Gamepass. Both Microsoft and Sony have been garbage this generation.

Yes, please forgive the typo.

 

[forsakkenSoul]

Sony has already advertised theirs IPs and studios to PC gamers. Now Sony can chose to not release their games on PC. And those that liked those games would buy a PS5/PS6

That actually reminds me of the strategy EA and Ubisoft tried in the past when they decided to stop releasing their games on Steam and sell exclusively through their own stores. The result? Both eventually returned to Steam, because cutting off such a large player base simply didn't make sense financially. And that was just moving to another store on the same platform.

Now imagine Sony doing something even more extreme, instead of asking PC gamers to use a different store, they'd be asking them to buy an entirely new platform just to play their games. Of course, some people would do that, but it's unlikely that such a strategy would be supported by the majority. And while Sony's PC releases might not bring massive profits right now, that could change in the future. Investing in PC is a long-term return strategy for them.

 

[MisterXDTV]

That actually reminds me of the strategy EA and Ubisoft tried in the past when they decided to stop releasing their games on Steam and sell exclusively through their own stores. The result? Both eventually returned to Steam, because cutting off such a large player base simply didn't make sense financially. And that was just moving to another store on the same platform.

I didn't know that EA and Ubisoft made consoles....

What kind of comparison is that?

A third-party publisher vs a platform holder???

 

[poppabk]

They(Sony Fans) know Microsoft is transitioning to selling living room PC boxes that behave like consoles and they don't want that device to have access to Playstation games. This device will be a direct alternative to buying a PS6 since it will be able to play the same Sony games(at better performance).

Which is kinda pathetic, right? When the consoles are actually competing I can sort of see why you would want the console you own to have exclusives to help it 'win'. But now?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Which is kinda pathetic, right? When the consoles are actually competing I can sort of see why you would want the console you own to have exclusives to help it 'win'. But now?

They know it will get rubbed in their face the Playstation games running better on an "Xbox". Once it came out this was the direction Microsoft were going you started seeing comments on this site how Sony would prevent the games from being on it but somehow still be on Steam.