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[DY_nasty]

Well that's my point.

Digital Playground? A quick look at their wiki shows their top 6 contract stars, and they've all done IR.

All of the most popular studios and stars do IR. I don't think it's an issue at all. Then again, I don't really go hunting for those that refuse to do it so I guess I'm not really "In the know" for those people.

Stoya has done 2 IR scenes. Everyone is still mad.
Jesse Jane, Riley, and Kayden may have but not in their tenure with DP as its as "mainstream" as it gets. And again, Hispanic people don't scare consumers for some reason. Its only the big black dicks that shock the world.
Bibi Jones will never touch a black dick on camera.
Selena Rose is a lucky nobody.

 

[UrbanRats]

DY, one thing is not clear to me:
If there's a market of cuckold lovers to exploit, how is IR so frowned upon? shouldn't it be a win-win? Non-racist people get off on it because it's porn, and those with cuckold racist fetishes get off on it because it's IR.

That of course only goes for black males on white girls, so not taking into consideration other minorities.

 

[Kitschkraft]

Stoya has done 2 IR scenes. Everyone is still mad.

It was just the one with Marcus. *Just checked again*

Edit : Just counting M/F. Not sure about lesbian stuff.

 

[DY_nasty]

DY, one thing is not clear to me:
If there's a market of cuckold lovers to exploit, how is IR so frowned upon? shouldn't it be a win-win? Non-racist people get off on it because it's porn, and those with cuckold racist fetishes get off on it because it's IR.

That of course only goes for black males on white girls, so not taking into consideration other minorities.

Because all "fetish" stuff in general is a market limiter. Whether it be enemas, large (3 guys or more) gangbangs, bondage, or even "looking young" - it'll put a hamper on your career because female adult entertainers have their images/bodies/bodies of work scrutinized harder than mainstream actresses.

 

[Blackace]

Nintendo did it with Punch Out

 

[PhoenixDark]

And of course, Mr Marcus had to fuck shit up for everybody. I'll never forgive him for that shit. He was one of my favorites, despite not having the biggest dick. I'm so tired of "thug" types like Wesley Pipes being the image of black performers, but what does it say when one of the "nice guys" knowingly gets people infected with an STD. God dammit

 

[UrbanRats]

Because all "fetish" stuff in general is a market limiter. Whether it be enemas, large (3 guys or more) gangbangs, bondage, or even "looking young" - it'll put a hamper on your career because female adult entertainers have their images/bodies/bodies of work scrutinized harder than mainstream actresses.

This is fucking weird to me.
Who the fuck cares what an actress (or actor) has starred in? Like there's some weird artistic integrity of porn or something.

 

[SolKane]

The only time interracial porn does not seem exploitative to me (of the black man) is in Euro stuff, because obvious historical reasons. In most other cases I avoid these scenes because there's something about the fetishization and dehumanization of black men that is just severely off putting. Cuckold and mandingo type videos are the kind of thing I'm thinking about. Not all interracial scenes are like this by any means, but it seems that the most prominent ones are of this ilk.

 

[DY_nasty]

This is fucking weird to me.
Who the fuck cares what an actress (or actor) has starred in? Like there's some weird artistic integrity of porn or something.

People do it with women in their every day stuff.

Even on GAF you'll see guys say shit like "but look at who's fucked in the past. that's like minus 2 points right there" and you've got terms like "mudshark". People think that the pussy is forever stretched out after sex or something too - they need to believe its not hotdoginhallway.gif and not fucking black dudes keeps the dream alive. Black people get them dirty, etc.

For the fetish stuff, that's great. For everything else... its something that has to be considered.

 

[diamount]

Fucking hell. Get over it... you're getting paid to have sex.

 

[jaxword]

Nintendo did it with Punch Out

Was that really racist? Some of the the characters were country stereotypes, yeah, but they also seemed to be very proud of their countries like any athlete publicly performing tends to be, with flags and sometimes regional dress.

 

[Blackace]

Was that really racist? Some of the the characters were country stereotypes, yeah, but they also seemed to be very proud of their countries like any athlete publicly performing tends to be, with flags and sometimes regional dress.

What is racism? If we aren't talking about hate filled racism then we are talking about stereotyping racism.

 

[Blackace]

Fucking hell. Get over it... you're getting paid to have sex.

And it's really not as great as you think.

You are getting paid to have sex in front of 50 people who might actually touch you to direct scenes.

 

[jaxword]

What is racism? If we aren't talking about hate filled racism then we are talking about stereotyping racism.

I know what you're getting at, but at the same time I see Punch Out as just an cartoonishly exaggerated version of typical sports events with their own nationalistic pride.

 

[Blackace]

I know what you're getting at, but at the same time I see Punch Out as just an cartoonishly exaggerated version of typical sports events with their own nationalistic pride.

Yeah, because the French are proud of being weak cowards! Just saying..

I don't really care, just brought it up that porn isn't the only place we see people profiting from "racism"

 

[diamount]

And it's really not as great as you think.

You are getting paid to have sex in front of 50 people who might actually touch you to direct scenes.

Hahah, just like going to get your balls checked for cancer.

 

[depths20XX]

Regarding thread title.

Porn is totally racist. I doubt it's the last industry to profit from it though.

 

[diamount]

Regarding thread title.

Porn is totally racist. I doubt it's the last industry to profit from it though.

Racism can be whatever the hell you want it to be.

 

[Brian Griffin]

Fucking hell. Get over it... you're getting paid to have sex.

It's still a job. Having sex with a gorgeous woman and having sex with a gorgeous woman in front of a film crew who are there for business are two very different things. Unless you are doing some movie where they just film you fucking freestyle there's going to be multiple takes, costume changes, makeup redos, etc. It's probably not as cool as it sounds.

 

[johnsmith]

I think the lookism is much worse.

 

[UrbanRats]

People do it with women in their every day stuff.

Even on GAF you'll see guys say shit like "but look at who's fucked in the past. that's like minus 2 points right there" and you've got terms like "mudshark". People think that the pussy is forever stretched out after sex or something too - they need to believe its not hotdoginhallway.gif and not fucking black dudes keeps the dream alive. Black people get them dirty, etc.

For the fetish stuff, that's great. For everything else... its something that has to be considered.

Yeah i can see what you're saying, yet i can't really relate with that sentiment, i guess.
I saw various fetish porn more like something that adds a layer of kink, if you will, to two people fucking.
Similar to how classic porn movies had storylines involving various archetypes, from the pizza delivery dude, to the maid etc etc.
Or like Porn parodies bank on the humorous element and the known characters.

Fucking hell. Get over it... you're getting paid to have sex.

They're getting less work and less money, though, how is that not a problem?

I think the lookism is much worse.

I'm afraid ugly people, are going to be stuck in very peculiar porn niche forever.

 

[depths20XX]

Racism can be whatever the hell you want it to be.

Huh? Porn is still racist

 

[virtuoso88]

Isn't porn with black dudes popular because of their monstrous cocks and not because of racism?

 

[DY_nasty]

Isn't porn with black dudes popular because of their monstrous cocks and not because of racism?

Popular among people who like it.

But so is hockey

 

[Kinitari]

I think porn is in a complicated position, more so than any other enterprise when it comes to humanitarianism.

Let's say in an office setting in the 50s or whatever, they decide to implement new policy to hire minority staff. They can do this without really stepping on anyone's toes.

But... you can't really do that when your job is to have sex. Would it be ethical to tell a girl "you have to have sex with black guys or your fired"?... honestly I'm not even sure. It's such a gray area.

Basically, I don't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole. I'll just hope it sorts itself out.

 

[DragonKnight]

Isn't porn with black dudes popular because of their monstrous cocks and not because of racism?

White guys have monster cocks too. It isnt a black thing. Hell im above average but i wouldnt call myself huge. There is somethibg about black men that people find taboo. God knows why.

 

[DY_nasty]

I think porn is in a complicated position, more so than any other enterprise when it comes to humanitarianism.

Let's say in an office setting in the 50s or whatever, they decide to implement new policy to hire minority staff. They can do this without really stepping on anyone's toes.

But... you can't really do that when your job is to have sex. Would it be ethical to tell a girl "you have to have sex with black guys or your fired"?... honestly I'm not even sure. It's such a gray area.

Basically, I don't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole. I'll just hope it sorts itself out.

That is not what's happening though.

 

[DragonKnight]

And of course, Mr Marcus had to fuck shit up for everybody. I'll never forgive him for that shit. He was one of my fjavorites, despite not having the biggest dick. I'm so tired of "thug" types like Wesley Pipes being the image of black performers, but what does it say when one of the "nice guys" knowingly gets people infected with an STD. God dammit

Mr. Marcus always did seem like a nice dude.

 

[timetokill]

It's a business. Porn is catering to its customer base. They don't have a duty to promote social progress, etc.

If nobody is buying asian-on-black porn then they're not going to bother making it. If, as a girl, doing IR hurts your career then I can't see how you can say they should just do it anyway in the name of social justice.

It sucks but this isn't something you can blame on the workers, IMO. This is an audience issue.

 

[BadAss2961]

Is the porn the last industry to have blatant racism AND profit from it? #1

There's still NASCAR. lol

 

[Kinitari]

That is not what's happening though.

No no, of course not - from what I read of the OP it's more about companies preventing their girls from working with black people, or girls feeling like having sex with black people might lose them business.

My point is the solution is pretty clear for me in most employment places. If a company were to say, not hire any black people as a policy - I would easily support laws that made it illegal to discriminate on those grounds. If the co-workers didn't want to work with black people, and I was the head of the company I would be like "fuck you, work with them or you're fired".

But those solutions really aren't applicable here.

 

[number47]

That is not what's happening though.

What is happening? No seriously, all I got is that the guy has to work with racist people.

The popular ones in my opinion do any video since that basically gives more exposure.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I just find it funny if it's a white guy fucking an:

Asian
Hispanic
Middle Eastern

It's not considered "interracial".

My lulz...all of them.

 

[sn00zer]

There's still NASCAR. lol

wat

 

[Angelus Errare]

wat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxi1J2EntVU

 

[antonz]

Porn is a business that caters to what people want. That said Just because someone goes into Porn doesn't mean they give up their right to make decisions for themselves.

If Porn Star A doesn't want to sleep with black guys, white guys or asians that is totally within her right.
If Porn Star B will sleep with everything and anything that's their choice too.

Its so beyond the porn world these days.

Hell go on a dating site and you will probably be shocked by how many black women flat out state don't message me if you are black and the same with white women who tell white dudes to take a hike.

 

[Red]

The answer is yes. Racism exists across all media, but porn is the only place where it isn't tucked away and hidden. Black men are presented as the only way a little white woman can be satisfied. Because they have primally insatiatable, animalistic sexual appetites, and each and every one is blessed with a cock the size of Rolph Lundgren's thigh.

 

[mr2xxx]

What is happening? No seriously, all I got is that the guy has to work with racist people.

The popular ones in my opinion do any video since that basically gives more exposure.

The woman's value goes down due to sleeping with black guys due to the the racist consumers. Its more about business than anything else for most of these women, like he said the same ones rejecting IR porn have no issue hooking up with black guys off the set.

 

[BadAss2961]

If I could only continue to watch one genre of porn, it would be IR.

 

[Kinitari]

Porn is a business that caters to what people want. That said Just because someone goes into Porn doesn't mean they give up their right to make decisions for themselves.

If Porn Star A doesn't want to sleep with black guys, white guys or asians that is totally within her right.
If Porn Star B will sleep with everything and anything that's their choice too.

Its so beyond the porn world these days.

Hell go on a dating site and you will probably be shocked by how many black women flat out state don't message me if you are black and the same with white women who tell white dudes to take a hike.

Okay, so here is a question for you.

I am a very liberal, forward thinking CEO of some major porn label. I decide to change policy in my company to insist that we have at least some interracial porn in our repertoire. I find out none of my girls want to IR porn - would it be immoral to say "If you don't do IR porn, than you're fired"? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

 

[antonz]

Okay, so here is a question for you.

I am a very liberal, forward thinking CEO of some major porn label. I decide to change policy in my company to insist that we have at least some interracial porn in our repertoire. I find out none of my girls want to IR porn - would it be immoral to say "If you don't do IR porn, than you're fired"? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

That's a tough one with the way job rights are. I mean all those girls are useless to you if they wont do the job so obviously you wouldn't want them around. I would think you have a right to fire people who wont play ball but the government might say otherwise

 

[bluelightningduo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxi1J2EntVU

This made my night, thank you!!!

 

[Red]

IR is just one racist genre. Asian women are also fetishized... Japanese are presented as subservient, naive, virginesque. Indian women as sexually repressed, or secretly deviant.

But like others have said... This is what people want. It exists becaus there is a market for it. I think that's a little sad.

It says something when white/black is the primary constituent of "interracial." And white/white is the only place you can find unprefaced, "normal" porn.

 

[MWS Natural]

That fact that interracial is a category or even worse a fetish is racist in itself. In 2013 for it to be "taboo" to have sex with someone of another color is fucking stupid.

 

[Cloudy]

I always thought it was racist but never really gave it much thought since folks are entitled to their preferences. Reading the comments in the OP, he is 100% correct. These racist women should be shunned

ps: Are there as many white male pornstars who refuse to fuck black girls? Just wondering

 

[number47]

The woman's value goes down due to sleeping with black guys due to the the racist consumers. Its more about business than anything else for most of these women, like he said the same ones rejecting IR porn have no issue hooking up with black guys off the set.

That would explain the racist comments on the ir stuff. Like seriously man, you really jacking and cursing bulk guys at the same time?

 

[DY_nasty]

Okay, so here is a question for you.

I am a very liberal, forward thinking CEO of some major porn label. I decide to change policy in my company to insist that we have at least some interracial porn in our repertoire. I find out none of my girls want to IR porn - would it be immoral to say "If you don't do IR porn, than you're fired"? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

Where is that hypothetical coming from? lol

The hilarious issue at hand is that many women do have no problem with black guys, but companies don't want any part of that on camera. They're not being asked to do anything that they don't want to do, they're being asked to not. And with monetary reasoning behind it, many are inclined to roll with it.

Also, black women got worked over harder than anyone. All black pornstars could do was boycott the AVNs and stuff but its not like anyone takes that seriously in the first place.

I always thought it was racist but never really gave it much thought since folks are entitled to their preferences. Reading the comments in the OP, he is 100% correct. These racist women should be shunned

ps: Are there as many white male pornstars who refuse to fuck black girls? Just wondering

How many black women are there left?

And male pornstars don't really get to choose much of anything.

 

[UrbanRats]

No no, of course not - from what I read of the OP it's more about companies preventing their girls from working with black people, or girls feeling like having sex with black people might lose them business.

My point is the solution is pretty clear for me in most employment places. If a company were to say, not hire any black people as a policy - I would easily support laws that made it illegal to discriminate on those grounds. If the co-workers didn't want to work with black people, and I was the head of the company I would be like "fuck you, work with them or you're fired".

But those solutions really aren't applicable here.

The problem seems to be that porn reflects a view of society.
Most actresses do not have problems working with black performers, if not for the business side of things, and that's really a problem that stems from the (racist) clients.
That said, of course you can't force a girl to fuck with someone she doesn't want to fuck, but you can choose to hire girls based on what they're able to do, and that can include performing with all of your males actors (including black ones) it's not really that different from hiring someone who is able to work better in teamwork and be more productive for your company.

Also, now that i think about it, i don't think i've ever seen an Asian male pornstar outside of Japanese movies.

 

[timetokill]

Okay, so here is a question for you.

I am a very liberal, forward thinking CEO of some major porn label. I decide to change policy in my company to insist that we have at least some interracial porn in our repertoire. I find out none of my girls want to IR porn - would it be immoral to say "If you don't do IR porn, than you're fired"? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

I don't think it'd be immoral at all; you simply say you're a label that includes IR porn and expects its employees to be okay with doing that work.

That said, I fully expect that the results of your endeavor would be your porn label crumbling and, if you're somehow public, shareholders demanding your head. It's simply a stupid business move to make.

 

[theignoramus]

Fetish != Racism

They aren't using exactly PC language because fuck, it's porn, but I don't think black actors get paid less or anything like it.

That is a dangerous road to go down because it basically boils down to the perception that "being sexually attracted to a specific phenotype" is racist, which is complete bullshit IMO.

lol, you think girls in the business are attracted to every performer they fuck?