Yep. I think a large part of negativity towards the scene, beyond simple disdain for the reboot on a conceptual level, is a knee-jerk contempt for profanity that some people have. Start dropping f-bombs, and accusations of poor writing aren't far behind. I remember people getting similarly bent out of shape about the language in San Andreas.
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Is there any game with worse dialogue than DmC?
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Yep. I think a large part of negativity towards the scene, beyond simple disdain for the reboot on a conceptual level, is a knee-jerk contempt for profanity that some people have. Start dropping f-bombs, and accusations of poor writing aren't far behind. I remember people getting similarly bent out of shape about the language in San Andreas.
The game is filled with unsubtle, unfunny dialogue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTQFpwZwk-w
I'm happy to see the general consensus in this thread favouring DmC, game deserves the appreciation, even it comes a bit late.
Classic thread backfire, though that was to be expected with a bait-ey thread title like that.
That's quite an imagination you have.
I played the game. I've heard much worse dialogue.
There's worse, but let's not pretend DmC has good writing just because there's something worse. It was pitched as the "DMC for the western audience" and ended up being cool only for some dumb teenager that only existed in NT's minds, as sales showed. At least the previous games were funny in their cheesiness.
WhoaIsThatMars
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Did you play any of the Devil May Cry games? None of the dialogue is meant to be taken even slightly serious
VeryGooster
Banned
DmC's dialogue seems incredibly self aware of itself and fit the tone of the game. Dumb fun basically.
I'll go with Black Ops 3 though because every line is cut and pasted from every other special forces movie or secret mission BUT WHO ARE THE REAL ENEMIES story.
I'll go with Black Ops 3 though because every line is cut and pasted from every other special forces movie or secret mission BUT WHO ARE THE REAL ENEMIES story.
DownGrader
Member
Oh god, the battle scene... "ye-yah"... that was the purest comedy.
MegaSackman
Member
Any other Devil May Cry game is equally bad or worse. Also, Platinum Games.
At least they make good games.
At least they make good games.
Again, it seems like the big issue, besides a rudimentary hatred for DmC as a concept, is skittishness about profanity. I just think it's weird that in a series as over the top as Devil May Cry, and in a single game as clearly tongue-in-cheek as DmC, profanity seems to get under so many people's skin. I think the language fits the tone of the game perfectly, just as I thought the profanity in Metal Gear Rising fit that game as well.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Kinda how I felt. Taking DmC seriously seems more on the side of wanting to show how bad something is, yet ignoring how bad the entire series has been already. DmC might be bad, but pretending like it's an insult to the series is beyond being a fan in denial.
DmC can make a dick joke and it's considered pathetic, immature and not fitting for the series.
Whereas
DMC4 can have Dante recite a poem about thrusting his cock and it's all laughs and good games.
Dunno, it's just all in good fun. Neither are representative of either Dante or the game anyway, so it shouldn't be used as some form of point to push on each game.
Besides, there's far far worse out there anyway.
Why would you ever want to admit that something you like is actually of the same sins as something you hate? We're talking about gamers on the Internet. Stand your ground and argue your ignorance.
"Don't care, it's bad when [insert game] does it"
Yeah this was trash.
Fancy Clown
Member
The gears of war games have some pretty fucking bad dialogue.
PensivePen
Member
"I don't have your stone, and fuck you anyway!"
toastyToast
Member
It's not that bad, jeez
If the game is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek it does an awful job of it. It's serious and monotone for the most part. I'd say the opening, the instance in the OP and that one time that Dante and Vergil talk about their dicks cover most of it.
MGR has a much more consistent tone.
If the game is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek it does an awful job of it. It's serious and monotone for the most part. I'd say the opening, the instance in the OP and that one time that Dante and Vergil talk about their dicks cover most of it.
MGR has a much more consistent tone.
TheRealJakoozie
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It's supposed to be that way OP. Seriously, you don't get the vibe they're going for? It's ninja theory, they know how to write.
DmC is the only recent game that Ninja Theory has created without outside writers/contributors/writing consultants.
toastyToast
Member
Vergil's heel turn was pretty poorly written
I wouldn't have found the writing in DmC to be bad if it wasn't trying to be so serious. Ninja Theory were making all these references to important real life things (Goldman-Sachs, Anonymous, Fox News, etc) and it just made the shitty writing stand out even more to me. I mean, the writing in previous DMC games was nothing to write home about, but it didn't take itself seriously so I didn't care.
Ninja Theory told me they were gonna serve me a fancy steak dinner and they gave me a turd sandwich.
Ninja Theory told me they were gonna serve me a fancy steak dinner and they gave me a turd sandwich.
I'm fairly certain there are a lot of games with even worse dialogue, particularly 8bit, 16bit games.
But yes, the dialogue/plot/characters/writing overall in DmC is mostly trash. Ninja Theory making the world believe they were any good at any of these things, let alone great, is one of the biggest scams of the previous generation.
It's singled out because supposedly this is what Ninja Theory was bringing to this party. Their alleged pseudo-expertise in cinematic storytelling. But the result is something that is just as bad as before, and with cut-scenes that certainly appear to be shittier and cheaper than ever before, devoid of anything that could be remotely called stylish. For DmC it sure as fuck is a massive downgrade from Yuji Shimomura's work in DMC3 and DMC4.
But yes, the dialogue/plot/characters/writing overall in DmC is mostly trash. Ninja Theory making the world believe they were any good at any of these things, let alone great, is one of the biggest scams of the previous generation.
It's singled out because supposedly this is what Ninja Theory was bringing to this party. Their alleged pseudo-expertise in cinematic storytelling. But the result is something that is just as bad as before, and with cut-scenes that certainly appear to be shittier and cheaper than ever before, devoid of anything that could be remotely called stylish. For DmC it sure as fuck is a massive downgrade from Yuji Shimomura's work in DMC3 and DMC4.
If this has yet to be posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zygDzAkothQ It has to be. I noticed Chaos Wars has. But suffice it to say, yes, there's games with way worse dialogue. Honestly, I never got why DmC got so much hate from some people. That dialogue is pretty straightforward dmc.
Crossing Eden
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It wasn't, and all the references to real life things were satire. How anyone can look at this:
and figure that the game is inherently trying to be as serious as possible.
Yea it was all a massive conspiracy!! People can't possibly have different opinion than you. /s Actually the cinematography in DmC is pretty great, just because it's not anime action scenes constantly doesn't mean that they weren't "stylish."I'm fairly certain there are a lot of games with even worse dialogue, particularly 8bit, 16bit games.
But yes, the dialogue/plot/characters/writing overall in DmC is mostly trash. Ninja Theory making the world believe they were any good at any of these things, let alone great, is one of the biggest scams of the previous generation.
It's singled out because supposedly this is what Ninja Theory was bringing to this party. Their alleged pseudo-expertise in cinematic storytelling. But the result is something that is just as bad as before, and with cut-scenes that certainly appear to be shittier and cheaper than ever before, devoid of anything that could be remotely called stylish. For DmC it sure as fuck is a massive downgrade from Yuji Shimomura's work in DMC3 and DMC4.
The writing in Devil May Cry 1,2,3, and 4 are all significantly worse than Dec. Also blops 3 recently is worse.
Also this people taking Dmc as seriously as they do are hilarious.
So are the other Devil May Cry games for the thinking person then?
FunkyPajamas
Member
I see you guys with your DmCs and raise you...
Rygar: The Legendary Adventure.
And some feather. Or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b6-FKNC8gY
Rygar: The Legendary Adventure.
And some feather. Or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b6-FKNC8gY
Games can and have done far worse than just saying "Fuck you" to each other.
Destiny:
"I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain."
Crysis 1:
"I'm not alone out here!"
"There's something out there!"
Unreal 2:
"You know what they say about blood being thicker than water? Well, it's true."
Starcraft 2 WoL:
"I love it when a plan comes together."
HoTS:
"What are you going to do?" "...Kill him."
"It's like riding a bike."
"oh James" "Sarah" x23984293846729348627346823746283746
Destiny:
"I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain."
Crysis 1:
"I'm not alone out here!"
"There's something out there!"
Unreal 2:
"You know what they say about blood being thicker than water? Well, it's true."
Starcraft 2 WoL:
"I love it when a plan comes together."
HoTS:
"What are you going to do?" "...Kill him."
"It's like riding a bike."
"oh James" "Sarah" x23984293846729348627346823746283746
If you payed attention to any of the pre-release stuff Capcom/Ninja Theory put out before DmC's release you could tell they were taking this stuff way too seriously for what it was. I don't believe there was any intention for DmC to be tongue-in-cheek beyond the Bob Bargas stuff. In terms of general writing and storytelling, DMC3 is legit better than DmC. DmC also gets minus points for most of it's good parts being lifted directly from They Live.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
They actually said the exact opposite but expressed the opinion that they want storytelling in video games to be better. It was a triple A game with a huge budget and a large franchise, ofc they took the development seriously.
shiftplusone
Member
Fucking enchanted arms
sunset overdrive had some good stuff later but it definitely had way too many misses in comparison to hits for it to be any good
but its charming and non serious in the old games!!!!
DmC (the succubus scene in particular) is also full of itself. the scene is played tongue in cheek with that silly ass character yet those who praise the old ones for being silly can't pick up on it here, as well.
Almost as if there is some sort of preconceived bias against it
sunset overdrive had some good stuff later but it definitely had way too many misses in comparison to hits for it to be any good
but its charming and non serious in the old games!!!!
DmC (the succubus scene in particular) is also full of itself. the scene is played tongue in cheek with that silly ass character yet those who praise the old ones for being silly can't pick up on it here, as well.
Almost as if there is some sort of preconceived bias against it
I'm not saying it's great writing, but it's definitely tonally light hearted.
I have a hard time calling anything in DmC "lighthearted".
What about Vergil shooting the pregnant Lilith in the womb and then Dante using it to taunt Mundus. That was so hilarious!
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Oh god what is this even.
SmackAttack
Member
Oh, get the eff outta here. RE4's dialogue is great.
I laughed waayy too hard at this. Thank you.
OmegaDL50
Member
Oh my god. Is this for real?
That's not even phoning it in. That's just not even giving a damn.
LightningXCE
Member
Y'know, I think DmC's story would be improved with even more dick jokes.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Salazar: "I've been expecting you my brethrens."
Leon: "No thanks, BRO."
Leon had some corny ass lines in RE4.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
So you acknowledge that you were completely off base but saying that nothing in the game is lighthearted?
