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Itagaki Talks THQ Troubles, Devil's Third, And Next-Gen Consoles
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
I don't understand the Itagodki stuff. NG2 vanilla was shit in a box. I played NGB so damn much, that was my most anticipated game for 2008...such a huge downgrade in everything 'cept maybe combat, which is more a sidegrade from the horizontal/vertical combat to the more traditional light/heavy system.
I haven't played vanilla in a while, but I still play Black until this day and I can't say I had much of a problem with it. I don't think there's much difference besides the ability to pan 360 degrees though.
I'd say the camera in Lords of Shadows is worse. Even with the zoomed out fixed cam there are still enemies that come out of nowhere and you can't change the angle to see your surroundings.
I'm surprised there are any Ninja Gaiden fans in this thread at all. I thought you had to be 17 and up to play the games...
Pretty sure only people under 17 can appreciate Itagaki's female character design.
GrayFoxPL
Member
If you don't wish to see my posts, you may choose to do so. GAF has all the mod-cons. I should warn you though, it won't make MKhave released ten years earlier, it'll just help you forget it didn't.
It also wont make V-ON a real 3d fighter, there's way more tpp shooter elements then fighter.
Knowing Itagaki's respect for Sega's AM divisions I think he would take that title into consideration before boasting...or not.
Don't try to scare me with mods and bans, it might bite you in the ass.
You mean Mod-Con? It means modern convenience, it's a common English term. I.E. you have a block list, use it if you wish to.
Regardless of your opinion of V-On, it is a 3D arena combat game with melee, it has the technical requirements a more traditional 3D fighter has, much like Tech Romancer, which as I noted, was even closer to the traditional 3D fighter.
GrayFoxPL
Member
No I mean:
Though It's too late to Amirox it.
3D arena combat game with melee doesn't make it stand in the same genre as eg. Virtua Fighter or Dead or Alive U "the first online 3d fighter" as Itagaki assumes.
The whole point is he didn't claim do to it first, he claimed to do it first well.
And I'm not 'Amiroxing it', I just assumed you meant mod-con because you'd already replied to the post mentioning bannings.
And Tech Romancer is a 3D fighter. This is Wiki's description:
Admittedly, that's only four years before MK
. Not quite the gulf of the other one, but a gulf never the less.Stu BURNS...
GrayFoxPL
Member
Yet, he didn't. He did it well and better then Boon, but it wasn't "first well". Deception had actually better netcode then MK vs DC, MKK etc. released eons later. Played it for months it was well.
And I'm not 'Amiroxing it', I just assumed you meant mod-con because you'd already replied to the post mentioning bannings.
And Tech Romancer is a 3D fighter. This is Wiki's description:
Admittedly, that's only four years before MK
So you eventually dropped V-ON argument? Something about mouse wheel being broken, hmm? Maybe I could make you change your mind one more time,
but that's good enough for me.
Wiki! xD
Sviatoslav
Member
Let's give him a chance to get a game out without being rushed and suing his employer. I feel like with another 6 months in development NG2 could have been amazing.
That's fine. No where did I say he did it first well, I said he said that. I haven't played either of those games ever, online or otherwise.
Nope, I haven't change my mind at all, V-On is a 3D fighting game with competitive online, on a console, in 1996. But you disagree, and that's okay.
I wasn't trying to trip you up, I'm not even an Itagaki fan, I think he seems like a dick, even though I think he made a couple of excellent games, I'm not a fan of DoA at all (I do still have hope for this game, despite 30fps however), I actually wanted to know who did first as you said it wasn't him.
Yeah, the main problems with the game were related to balance issues.
GrayFoxPL
Member
I apologise for acting up on you, I imagined you as one of those crazy worshipers somehow. Really sorry. I have even similar thought on Itagaki as you and even like his DOA series, though admitting that seems to work on forum as religious chanting: "Itagaki... Itagaki..."
a Master Ninja
Member
30fps :-(
riceandbeans
Member
There's still hope. Wasn't a PC version leaked in a memo or something like that?
I'd like to see Itagaki's games brought back to awesome status now that he's got some generous development time and not rushing games out. DoA4 was okay but DoAX2 and NG2 were a giant, technical mess.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I don't see how you can do a twitch shooter justice at 30fps on a gamepad but maybe I misread their intentions on the first trailer. Then again, twitch shooters are basically dead and gone.