John Kowalski
Banned
the best thing about being banned is when you're back and people being like "you're back!" and sending you PMs confessing their love and undying dedication
You're assume people actually notice when you get bannedthe best thing about being banned is when you're back and people being like "you're back!" and sending you PMs confessing their love and undying dedication
There are more posts made on a daily basis than we can possibly keep up with, and there is no statute of limitations on posts (within reason). Sometimes, it takes a few days for any mod to realize that a thread has become a problem. Sometimes we are linked by other users in a PM and we don't get to it right away. There are many reasons for a delayed response, and it all comes down to the fact that this is a volunteer position and we do what we can, when we have time to do it.
the best thing about being banned is when you're back and people being like "you're back!" and sending you PMs confessing their love and undying dedication
Is there a way to offer explanation towards the mod's staff from the member's part if he or she gets banned? I mean a ban is immediate right, and the member cannot tell his or her side of the story. I mean, I know GAF mods team are by large have been doing a great job so far policing GAF, but mistakes can do happen and in that case, what avenue can a banned member can use to at least contest the decision of his/her banning? Especially in the case of a perma ban.
First line: Email support@neogaf.com
Second line: Contact a moderator on Steam, Twiter, XBL, PSN, etc.
Comments will be read, but you won't necessarily get a reply. It's not necessarily ideal.
Note: If the appeal consists of any of the following, it will be totally ignored:
a) "The rules are bad so they shouldn't apply to me"
b) "Someone I don't like did something like what you banned me for and they didn't get banned so I shouldn't be banned"
c) "Mods are biased"
d) "I know I got banned for a two word post telling another member to fuck off, but here's a multi-paragraph clear explanation of the point I actually wanted to make and as you can see my point makes sense so why did you ban me?"
e) "I think my ban should be shorter because in my head bans should be shorter"
f) "Explain my ban only use more words than you did in the ban message"
g) "I demand to know which mod banned me and when they will be resigning"
I just mention this because these are like 95% of the appeals we get and it's really not the kind of behaviour you'd expect from, like, adults in the real world.
does gaf get attacked, e.g ddos? those types of things have become so prevalent now i would have thought that the type of audience gaf attracts, and someone wanting revenge for being banned or unhappy with moderation etc would eventually overlap to cause a problem.
does cloudflare have our backs? how many jiggaflops can we sustain? is e3 basically considered a ddos attack?
Somebody answer my question.
repeating this question as im still curious
I have no idea where to ask but this seems a better place than any
is there an offtopic community OT for:
Tabletop RPGS (I know there is an amazing Tabletop boardgames OT, but looking for RPGs specifically)
Make up/Beauty stuff
my amateur search-fu skills haven't come up with anything
We see email tags the same way you guys do, quotes only.
People occasionally abuse this. That's a pretty stupid gamble since if they get caught we're obviously going to move to a much more heavy-handed punishment. I remember one user getting tagged with a tag that automatically erased their posts because they did it.
It's gonna sound weird, but I kind-of joined because of the strict moderation.
If you know what cloudflare is then you know how to check if GAF is behind Cloudflare![]()
EmCeeGramr was permanently banned under his previous username, so I think that qualifies.
For another topic, on "delayed response: I've technically "reported" posts to moderators via PM myself but never received a response before. Lack of receiving both responses from moderators via PM and even emails leaves me with a disconnected feeling. Like, contacting people with power on gaf seems hard because it feels very one-sided. Which, funnily enough, is exactly the reason I made this thread instead of PMing moderators. lol. I didn't actually expect moderators, or even owner of the website, to respond. I expected to just get a couple of pointers from some members.
I think we want people to value their accounts and we take re-registering after a permaban pretty seriously. Typically someone who registers an alternate account is very dumb and immediately goes back to posting as if nothing happened. While we have a number of tools to sniff those types of posters out, frankly the team reads a lot of GAF and immediately picks up on fishy accounts.
The number of times I've found repeat offenders in topics that caused them to get banned in the first place is significant. That goes for people without alts too. If you have a hangup, you'd think you'd just get over it and go elsewhere. Some posters really can't resist.
I usually get the opposite reaction and get told to fuck off again.the best thing about being banned is when you're back and people being like "you're back!" and sending you PMs confessing their love and undying dedication
It's gonna sound weird, but I kind-of joined because of the strict moderation.
I read every PM I get, but responses depend on several things. If it's rude I usually won't respond at all (though I'll still look at whatever it is), but if it isn't whether I respond varies based on what they're asking. I generally consider taking visible action to be a response in itself. Some of the common PMs we get:
"Please change my thread title" -> change title as long as it's reasonable, only respond if it isn't to explain why
"Please ban me for x amount of time" -> process the ban, only respond if they're asking for a perm to double confirm
"I want to change my username or email/be unjuniored/get my tag removed" -> these are admin actions, so if the request is reasonable I'll put it in the queue, then respond to let the person know it might take a little time. (As mentioned earlier in the thread, juniorings are much more likely to be undone if a) it's been a while (at least six months, generally) and b) the person clearly understands why they were juniored in the first place. Also usually requires consultation with other mods.)
"Why was I banned/why was my thread locked" -> if they're asking because they don't understand, I'll usually try to give a brief explanation. If they're asking to complain, I'll usually offer to pass on their complaint to the person who took the action, and then do so.
"Should I make this thread/will this thread get locked" -> usually this is use your noggin territory--if you have to ask, the answer is probably don't make the thread. Sometimes it's a site rule corner case and will need discussion with other mods or with EL, and I'll respond to let them know I'm looking into it.
"General site question [e.g. when do I move on to member status?]" -> these I'll usually respond to
When it's not something personal for the poster, I'm less likely to respond:
"Please ban this person/look at this thread [link to post or thread]." -> if this leads to visible intervention, I consider that a response. If not, sometimes I'll respond to explain, if it seems like it'd be helpful.
"Why is [person x] banned" -> most of the time this is someone mad about their friend being banned. If it's intended as an official complaint I'll offer to pass it on and then do so.
The other category of PMs I don't respond to are those that have come up in mod discussion and someone else is responding to. I figure those are "ticket closed" or whatever.
I can't speak for anyone else, but the above is more or less how it goes for me. The majority of PMs that don't receive a response from me are either "please change my thread title" or "please ban this person." It sounds like the PMs you sent fell into the latter category.
the best thing about being banned is when you're back and people being like "you're back!" and sending you PMs confessing their love and undying dedication
Don't flatter yourself.
It happens all the time. In fact, one of my favorite posters is in this thread, wearing a tag I gave him, but I have also banned this poster. This is true of many of my favorite posters. I just don't take temp bans as seriously as some folks do. I think two weeks -- which comprises the vast majority of all my bans -- is a reasonable time to spend reflecting on how and why you got banned, not some soul crushing punishment. There are threads in which I won't moderate, but that's usually because it's a thread in which I'm emotionally invested. At that point I'd ask another moderator to come take a look on my behalf. This is also pretty common. We're all people, and we all have issues that are close or personal to us.I'm curious how often a mod begrudgingly bans people outside of really liking the poster. Either temp or perma. Like you read their post and laughed, but then knew you'd have to do something because surely someone would get offended. Either an inappropriate joke or a post so funny you giggled. An example was in one of the watch dog threads when people were posting previews from their early copies one particular user kept being asked to show his receipt and he eventually responded with something along the lines of "I lost it on my pirate ship"
Sounds silly to ask because mods are humans with a sense of humor too but maybe it's a situation where they let someone else handle it.
Generally speaking, if you don't get a response, the answer is "no." That's a good rule of thumb for me. Sometimes I'll check a PM on my phone and then forget to act on it, but usually if I don't take an action, it's because I don't think it's necessary. Like Cyan, I get a lot of PMs focused on reporting posts. If the person is suddenly banned, it means I agreed with you. If not, it probably means I didn't, but it might mean I was just not around.My confusion wasn't more-so at thinking "you can't do that because it's been a while", but rather the reason why a moderator was bothering to go back through such an active thread. I can understand if a moderator didn't see a thread before and took interest a few days later if it were bumped, but considering the thread it seemed like a thread that everyone likely paid attention to and read to some degree as it was occuring. That's why it confused me.
For another topic, on "delayed response: I've technically "reported" posts to moderators via PM myself but never received a response before. Lack of receiving both responses from moderators via PM and even emails leaves me with a disconnected feeling. Like, contacting people with power on gaf seems hard because it feels very one-sided. Which, funnily enough, is exactly the reason I made this thread instead of PMing moderators. lol. I didn't actually expect moderators, or even owner of the website, to respond. I expected to just get a couple of pointers from some members.
Not always. If you get a perm warning and then go a year or so without a ban, sometimes the perm warning will be overlooked. Sometimes it will be overlooked because no one wants to flush a poster over a thread whine or bad joke. Sometimes it gets overlooked because someone doesn't run a rapsheet before banning, so they don't see the perm warning. We have great tools, largely created by Stump, but we're still humans, most of us moderating around jobs and families.that was the joke, y u do dis 2 me stumper
seriousness, let's say someone's next ban is perma -
is that a lingering noose around their neck for all time?
Not always. If you get a perm warning and then go a year or so without a ban, sometimes the perm warning will be overlooked. Sometimes it will be overlooked because no one wants to flush a poster over a thread whine or bad joke. Sometimes it gets overlooked because someone doesn't run a rapsheet before banning, so they don't see the perm warning. We have great tools, largely created by Stump, but we're still humans, most of us moderating around jobs and families.
With big sites, "bandwidth use" isn't as easy as that. Static assets are stored on a CDN (and almost entirely served cached), dynamic assets are served from GAF's servers (and largely text based and compressed when served). What are the possible answers to your question?
Well, put it this way. When we post images and gifs (particularly the large ones), does that take up a lot of bandwidth/resources?
Thought I would ask acouple questions whilst this thread is here.
I signed up with a Uni email address, can I now change this to a regular email as I have left Uni and will not have access to my email account at some point this year?
Secondly, why isn'tStrikethroughor highlight options available when crafting posts, but work fine?
Well, put it this way. When we post images and gifs (particularly the large ones), does that take up a lot of bandwidth/resources?
While we are all asking questions I was wondering if GAF will ever be allowed to have another Anime Figure thread? The last one was before my time I think but from my understanding some Bad Shit went down and now it's no more. I still see some people occasionally posting anime figures in the Action Figure and Nendoroid threads, but I understand they are not supposed to be used as replacements for the other thread.
Is there any kind of initiation ritual mods have to complete?
Secondly, why isn'tStrikethroughor highlight options available when crafting posts, but work fine?
I read every PM I get, but responses depend on several things. If it's rude I usually won't respond at all (though I'll still look at whatever it is), but if it isn't whether I respond varies based on what they're asking. I generally consider taking visible action to be a response in itself. Some of the common PMs we get:
"Please change my thread title" -> change title as long as it's reasonable, only respond if it isn't to explain why
"Please ban me for x amount of time" -> process the ban, only respond if they're asking for a perm to double confirm
"I want to change my username or email/be unjuniored/get my tag removed" -> these are admin actions, so if the request is reasonable I'll put it in the queue, then respond to let the person know it might take a little time. (As mentioned earlier in the thread, juniorings are much more likely to be undone if a) it's been a while (at least six months, generally) and b) the person clearly understands why they were juniored in the first place. Also usually requires consultation with other mods.)
"Why was I banned/why was my thread locked" -> if they're asking because they don't understand, I'll usually try to give a brief explanation. If they're asking to complain, I'll usually offer to pass on their complaint to the person who took the action, and then do so.
"Should I make this thread/will this thread get locked" -> usually this is use your noggin territory--if you have to ask, the answer is probably don't make the thread. Sometimes it's a site rule corner case and will need discussion with other mods or with EL, and I'll respond to let them know I'm looking into it.
"General site question [e.g. when do I move on to member status?]" -> these I'll usually respond to
When it's not something personal for the poster, I'm less likely to respond:
"Please ban this person/look at this thread [link to post or thread]." -> if this leads to visible intervention, I consider that a response. If not, sometimes I'll respond to explain, if it seems like it'd be helpful.
"Why is [person x] banned" -> most of the time this is someone mad about their friend being banned. If it's intended as an official complaint I'll offer to pass it on and then do so.
The other category of PMs I don't respond to are those that have come up in mod discussion and someone else is responding to. I figure those are "ticket closed" or whatever.
I can't speak for anyone else, but the above is more or less how it goes for me. The majority of PMs that don't receive a response from me are either "please change my thread title" or "please ban this person." It sounds like the PMs you sent fell into the latter category.
Also, you mentioned a queue. I thought it was confirmed that there wasn't any sort of moderation queue?
So there's an admin queue, I get ya.Admin actions aren't the same as standard moderation stuff. We can't all change names, tags, etc.
We're not going to respond every time someone sends us a PM. If you think that's unreasonable, you misunderstand the number of PMs we get, or how much time we have to moderate the site. Either way, you've gone past friendly questions to nagging complaints, and that's not what this thread is for.I've sent PMs suggesting a thread might have gotten a bit out of control and if they agreed/disagreed. Typically ignored and I find it a bit disheartening because it feels like you guys aren't really helpful.
We're not going to respond every time someone sends us a PM. If you think that's unreasonable, you misunderstand the number of PMs we get, or how much time we have to moderate the site. Either way, you've gone past friendly questions to nagging complaints, and that's not what this thread is for.
I've sent PMs suggesting a thread might have gotten a bit out of control and if they agreed/disagreed. Typically ignored and I find it a bit disheartening because it feels like you guys aren't really helpful.
You've soaked up an inordinate amount of time with inane questions--including about getting banned for talking graphically about jerking off--in this thread and you're now complaining we don't spend enough time on you. You're an adult. Grow up.
Is there a way to buy Gold membership? Couldn't find anything on the front page.
Edit: seems like the thread is about to be locked..
umm...you won
(You can search up your own posts on mobile too).My questin to GAF higher upz is if they will ever add "my posts" on mobile
Damn, just saw the tag lol