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iTunes is a piece of shit.

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I haven't updated iTunes in a while, kept putting it off, but I can still transfer music
 
iTunes slowed your startup? did you consider just disabling the iTunes Task/QT startup application in msconfig? it doesn't affect your ability to use iTunes or sync iDevices.

Seems like folks are abandoning software without making sure their problems really couldn't be resolved via knowledge. In some cases, anyway.
 
BakedPigeon said:
iTunes is the absolute biggest piece of shit program I have ever used. I grew up using average powered computers and it bogged down every one of them, took forever to load, and made startup a complete nightmare. And no im not trolling, I truly dont like the software and have refused to put it on my current computer for years now. I loike how they shove quicktime down your throat as well, fucking bastards.
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Yea don't download quicktime. Or use a different program. I'm really curious as to how an iTunes install made startup of your computer a complete nightmare.
 
see5harp said:
Yea don't download quicktime. Or use a different program. I'm really curious as to how an iTunes install made startup of your computer a complete nightmare.
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well, the thing install like 5 services(bonjour, idevices helper, quicktime, updater, etc..) so I can see how it could fuck up the startup.

Thankfully you can stop and/or uninstall those services (fucking bonjour)
 
I guess I'm in the minority but I love iTunes. Syncing is the best, as it makes it easier to keep all of my music organized. Don't know what I would do without it.
 
afternoon delight said:
Stopped reading there. Wrong OS.
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what's the correct answer for windows?

I switched back to itunes just recently. can't even remember why now the piece of shit can't even watch a fucking folder I have to keep adding shit to it manually.

Unless I want it to touch up my music folder itself, which I don't.
 
It runs ok on all my machines, but I find the iPod/iPhone management very unintuitive when connected to iTunes on different machines. I've wiped the music on my phone/ipod multiple times while trying to change various settings.
 
lol at the hyperbole in this thread (concerning OSX, at least), My iMac has turn to shit lately but the one program that has yet to succumb to nightmarish slowdown is iTunes. Smooth as butter. And on my Macbook? Well, everything runs divinely there, and iTunes is no exception.

I like to be organized, and iTunes absolutely excels at this.
 
itxaka said:
well, the thing install like 5 services(bonjour, idevices helper, quicktime, updater, etc..) so I can see how it could fuck up the startup.

Thankfully you can stop and/or uninstall those services (fucking bonjour)
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Maybe those are giving issues, but considering the footprint of those applications, they really shouldn't have.

AppleMobileDeviceHelper = 2,968K, | 0% CPU
AppleMobileDeviceService = 2,328K | 0% CPU
iPod Service = 4,024K | 0% CPU
iTunes.exe (mine @ 14,000 songs and playing a song) = 81,300K | 0%-9% CPU
mDNSResponder.exe (Bonjour) = 1,876K | 0% CPU

Pretty small stuff aside from iTunes (which doesn't boot at startup unless you set it that way for whatever reason). Then again, that's just idle usage and I don't know how they hit the affect system performance when those are actually in use. But I do know that by simply going to Start-->Run-->msconfig-->Startup you can untick all the iTunes stuff and never have to worry about it affect bootup if it is giving people trouble.

For comparison's sake, Zune on my i7 desktop is currently playing back a song and using 146,400K of memory and about 3%-15% of CPU. No problems for me either way, but again...not quite as efficient.
 
whatsinaname said:
It runs ok on all my machines, but I find the iPod/iPhone management very unintuitive when connected to iTunes on different machines. I've wiped the music on my phone/ipod multiple times while trying to change various settings.
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Because you can only sync it to one machine. Only thing you can do is manually add music to an ipod. And there are multiple warning messages that come up before they wipe your data...
 
Ashhong said:
Because you can only sync it to one machine. Only thing you can do is manually add music to an ipod. And there are multiple warning messages that come up before they wipe your data...
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I understand, but it is still very unintuitive. I set it to 'manually manage' on my computer at home.

Then I connect it to my computer at work, that option is unchecked. I check it and hit apply, it starts syncing and removes all my music?
 
whatsinaname said:
I understand, but it is still very unintuitive. I set it to 'manually manage' on my computer at home.

Then I connect it to my computer at work, that option is unchecked. I check it and hit apply, it starts syncing and removes all my music?
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iPod or iPhone?
 
iTunes is pretty great. I recently got my Dad up and running with iTunes/iPod/AppleTV on his W7 machine for the first time. Took 2 1/2 days to rip his music collection. Now, it's running and syncing perfectly.

I'm impressed, because the last time I had actually dug deep into using iTunes on a Windows machine was a few years ago in Vista and it absolutely sucked compared to OS X.

Now, I think iTunes on W7 is quite good. It's still better on OS X, and since OS X iTunes will always have the AppleScript advantage for power users, it always will be, but it's no slouch on W7.

I think Apple realizes the challenge ahead regarding bloat and iTunes. Notice they didn't shoehorn the Mac App Store into iTunes, even though they could have done so really easily? I think that says something...
 
I run iTunes on my iMac, use it to sync songs, but buy songs through Amazon and have them go into a folder on my external HDD which is shared across a network to my Linux box which runs Songbird and can read the iTunes Media Library.xml and get all my ratings and everything else. Win!!
 
f0rk said:
My sister bought music from iTunes on her iPod touch, and then managed it get it wiped when she synced it.
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You can only sync it to one computer at a time. Wipe will happen the first sync too. If you try it on computer #2, you must erase everything and resync again. And, if you go back to computer #1, same thing will happen. Guess, it's their shitty way to stop people from moving stuff to other computers.
 
HiResDes said:
iPod Touch's are awful, by a classic or a nano/shuffle...My stepdad has one and it freezes the computer just about every time.
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Touches (v4) are the best thing Apple has put out, in it's entire lifespan by far
 
EricHasNoPull said:
^ This guy knows his (computing) shit!
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Eh it's easier than it sounds! Although I'm thinking of putting everything on S3 and just mounting it in places where I need it. That way I can use it at work!!
 
ToxicAdam said:
Since this is an Itunes bitch thread, I have a question.

Is there a way I can make it download multiple parts of a podcast? Some of the podcasts I download come in 2 parts and i have to go back and manually download the second part every day because Itunes only takes the newest/freshest one when I hit "refresh".

I looked in the options for the podcast folder, but didn't see a way to make it download multiple "new" ones.
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Have you tried:
- Selecting the podcast
- Clicking "Settings"
- Uncheck "Use default settings"
- Under "When new episodes are available", select "Download all".

If this doesn't work, I dunno. I just go one at a time anyway.
 
Agreed with all the Zune comments in here, the software is so much faster than iTunes, it looks much nicer, and I overall like the organization and aesthetics of the Zune a lot more than that of an iPod. A lot of the people will badmouth Zunes without using them just because they see iPods as superior for whatever reason. The Zune Pass is cool too, even if I've only used the demo, and I haven't had the software crash or slow once. The stores for either don't really matter to me, I'm an Amazon MP3 person whenever I buy digital.
 
Works fine for me. Plus you should have just added it a while before you caught the bus, don't procrastinate!
 
I know no one in the world uses an iPod nano anymore except me, but if for some reason you do, for God's sake don't get the new touch nano. The touch screen goes to sleep after a few seconds and when it does you cannot pause/play or skip without first pressing a physical button to wake the screen up again. That nano touch was designed by psychopaths.
 
My ipod touch and itunes works fine on my Win7 pc. I just manually drag and drop things into the ipod and create playlists on it. I made sure to turn off auto-sync, so I've never had to go through the process of syncing my music library.
 
iTunes has never really given me any trouble, but these days I mostly just use it for podcasts and I have a fairly modest music library. I've looked into switching to something else several times, but I haven't found anything that manages audio and video podcasts quite as well.

I might have to check out Zune... haven't tried that yet, but I've never been too sold on the UI from what I've seen of it.

ToxicAdam said:
Since this is an Itunes bitch thread, I have a question.

Is there a way I can make it download multiple parts of a podcast? Some of the podcasts I download come in 2 parts and i have to go back and manually download the second part every day because Itunes only takes the newest/freshest one when I hit "refresh".

I looked in the options for the podcast folder, but didn't see a way to make it download multiple "new" ones.
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Click on the podcast -> Click 'Settings...' -> Uncheck 'Use Default Settings' -> For 'When new episodes are available' choose 'Download All'
 
I have absolutely no problem with iTunes on my Mac. Mail either. Let's just all agree that everyone has a different experience depending on their setup. *sigh*

That said, I do think they need to rewrite it, but ever since 10.0, it's been much faster for me.
 
Rapping Granny said:
God damn, I was in a hurry to catch the bus, but had only a couple of minutes to add a song or two. Open up iTunes for the first time in a month on my windows 7 pc, it had to update then Had to restart, then needed to open up the iTunes home page for some fucking reason, taking up a good chunk of time, then had to sync the fucking iPod and transfer everything from the music library and everything from the iPod into the fucking computer without asking my permission, then I tried to cancel it which froze the fucking program and just ejected the iPod and said fuck it.
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I am pretty sure you didn't have to update it. I've never been forced to download and install an update. You could have said no, and just done the update later.
 
Oh hey, another stupid pop-up from itunes telling me there's an update. Wonderful. No, I don't want safari. Remember when i said I didn't want safari the other 500 times? If I wanted safari, I'd download safari. Yes, I agree to your terms for effs sake. Remember when i agreed to your terms of service the 500 updates?

I wonder if this version will run less chunky.

<Clicks scroll bar.>
< Drags scroll bar.>
<Wait half a second for scroll bar to move>

Nope. I guess I should upgrade my graphics card so itunes can run at 30fps.
 
Mr. B Natural said:
Oh hey, another stupid pop-up from itunes telling me there's an update. Wonderful. No, I don't want safari. Remember when i said I didn't want safari the other 500 times? If I wanted safari, I'd download safari. Yes, I agree to your terms for effs sake. Remember when i agreed to your terms of service the 500 updates?

I wonder if this version will run less chunky.

<Clicks scroll bar.>
< Drags scroll bar.>
<Wait half a second for scroll bar to move>

Nope. I guess I should upgrade my graphics card so itunes can run at 30fps.
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You can just tell it to ignore Safari forever.

Every piece of software makes you re-agree to Terms of Service every time they change it.

Seriously, this whole thread is a bunch of guys admitting they don't know how to use computers.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You can just tell it to ignore Safari forever.

Every piece of software makes you re-agree to Terms of Service every time they change it.

Seriously, this whole thread is a bunch of guys admitting they don't know how to use computers.
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pretty much this.

although the one person who's seeing their itunes library nuke after every restart/daily is confusing.

I wonder if their iTunes Library database file is somehow set to read-only? or if the account doesn't have permissions necessary to write to the file? might cause an issue like that.
 
J-Rod said:
Adding a song, something that should take 20 seconds, requires a complete resynch. Crazy stuff.
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Wut

That's not even remotely true.

Plug in iPod, iTunes recognizes it, drag and drop file to it, done.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You can just tell it to ignore Safari forever.

Every piece of software makes you re-agree to Terms of Service every time they change it.

Seriously, this whole thread is a bunch of guys admitting they don't know how to use computers.
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So basically Apple's target market?
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You can just tell it to ignore Safari forever.

Every piece of software makes you re-agree to Terms of Service every time they change it.

Seriously, this whole thread is a bunch of guys admitting they don't know how to use computers.
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Itunes gets pointlessly updated at least once a month - other software doesn't thus compounding the issue. And that's not true at all about patches and terms of service. The only time you legally have to agree to a new terms of service is if the terms of service changes.

And I know. It's my fault itunes runs like shit in the year 2010 right?
And I also know I can tell it to not auto-check safari but i can't make it disappear from the list.
And I understand I don't have to update, but I would like an update that makes itunes run well. So why the hell wouldn't I update? It's not like this version I just got today runs great and is a real keeper.
But hey, they finaly figured out how to make updates without making your desktop icons obsolete a few months ago. Good on them.
I don't know how to use computer though...i just built the computer I'm typing this with. That's all. Gaf doesn't know anything about computers. It's just a gaming thread full of virgin geeks. Gotta love apple threads and the apologists.
 
iTunes for PC has been shitty forever, and while some of the new features they added have been useful, Apple has been content for a large majority of iPod users to have a slow and unwieldy program for years now. It doesn't do them any good to possible PC-to-Mac converts who think that Apple can't write good programs because of their iTunes experience.

I've given up using my iPhone for music and just sync for apps now because the music management is such a pain. It is quite slow and unnecessarily bloated at times. BTW I have always used manual sync in iTunes but it can still be a lengthy process.

I had the relatively unique experience of using a Zune a couple years back when the software was at 2.4ish, left for awhile after the Zune2gen broke, and came back to where it is at now with a Zune HD. I've had experience with the software then and it's pretty remarkable how much it has improved since then. The interface is really clean and flexible, and it is much easier to get the things done that you want. Renaming multiple tracks & getting album art is literally over 10x quicker to do in Zune than it is in iTunes. Also when trying to remove tracks or duplicates, the Zune does it automatically while it takes a few extra steps in iTunes.

Plus, when you have Zune set up to get info and pics for all of your artists, it creates a more visually appealing and functional music player than the iPhone of iTouch can match.
 
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