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James Bond 23 - SKYFALL (Javier Bardem CONFIRMED as Bond villain!)

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CloudWolf

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Jarmel said:
Well CR was pretty character oriented and I enjoyed the movie because of that.
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This. CR is one of the best Bond movies ever IMO just because it's not a gadget/action-fest and a lot like the actual books. Aside from that silly chase in the beginning with the highly explosive gas tanks of course.
 
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KittenMaster said:
What you described is your average Roger Moore Bond movie, which is probably as far from "Ian Fleming's Bond" as it gets while still being considered his character.
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Fleming would be more likely to have an entire story take place with just the characters talking in a room, actually.
 
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Krev said:
Trying to win Oscar nominations with a Bond movie is a fool's endeavour.
They're not stupid enough to try that.
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Eh, I would've said that a couple of years ago, but with ten best picture nominations you end up with stuff like Inception and District 9 in the running. I could definitely see a more character-driven Bond ending up there.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
I actually wouldn't mind this movie not involving Quantum, or at least not directly.

Drop it for a movie, and come back maybe? I think it would be a disaster to not continue exploring Quantum.

In fact, if anything, QoS' biggest shortfall was that it was too nuanced and didn't spell out exactly who everyone was and beat you over the head with it. I really, really, really hope they don't leave us hanging completely on it.
 
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StoOgE

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CloudWolf said:
This. CR is one of the best Bond movies ever IMO just because it's not a gadget/action-fest and a lot like the actual books. Aside from that silly chase in the beginning with the highly explosive gas tanks of course.
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and the worst poker scene ever set to film. Don't forget that.
 
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StoOgE said:
and the worst poker scene ever set to film. Don't forget that.
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I try to. Seriously, it completely takes me out of the movie.

If a hand like that actually happened, the movie would be *about* that hand, it'd be so impossibly rare and ridiculous.
 
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LeonSKennedy90

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I'm just not sure about Sam Mendes. He seems like a drama director attempting to do a Bond movie, like Forster or Apted, and that doesn't really fill me with confidence. Neither does this recent news.
 
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Divius

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All I know I had my doubts about QoS based on the director but it turned out to be the best movie of 2008.

In Mendes we trust.
 
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Busty

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&Divius said:
All I know I had my doubts about QoS based on the director but it turned out to be the best movie of 2008.
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WHAT?! You are why we can't have nice things. Good grief.
 
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LeonSKennedy90 said:
I'm just not sure about Sam Mendes. He seems like a drama director attempting to do a Bond movie, like Forster or Apted, and that doesn't really fill me with confidence. Neither does this recent news.
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Apted was the hugest disappointment for me, as he did brilliant documentary work *and* a slick Hollywood movie I really liked (Thunderheart).
 
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WillyFive

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Doesn't seem like the name is fully confirmed, but I hope the movie is more like Casino Royale than Quantum of Solace.

I want a story in my Bond movies.
 
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I liked Casino Royale because of the more down-to-earth approach. Only the
Bond getting poisoned
scene was really dumb. I especially liked the last part, where he is with the girl. I felt that was taking a much less conventional approach for a post-1990 Bond film. From watching the other Bond movies, you'd think the guy is cryogenically frozen in between missions. Here at least it felt like he was a real person, and sometimes took vacations and what not.

Quantum of Solace was shit though. Terrible movie. It was like someone filled an Excel sheet titled "James Bond movie recipe".
 
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Expendable.

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IamMattFox said:
Eh, I would've said that a couple of years ago, but with ten best picture nominations you end up with stuff like Inception and District 9 in the running. I could definitely see a more character-driven Bond ending up there.
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There aren't 10 guaranteed best picture nominations anymore. I'd venture the max we'll see is 7 this year.
 
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Expendable. said:
There aren't 10 guaranteed best picture nominations anymore. I'd venture the max we'll see is 7 this year.
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Ah, cool. I felt like switching to ten nominees kind of cheapened it overall (not that I'm that big on the Oscars anyway, but whatever). Still, I could see a Bond film getting recognized if they take what they were doing in Casino Royale further.
 
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richisawesome said:
There wasn't in Thunderball, Licence to Kill or the Living Daylights either!
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Neither in Dr. No, Goldfinger, On her Majesty's Secret Service, Live and Let Die, The Man With the Golden Gun, View to a Kill, License to Kill, Goldeneye and Die Another Day.
 
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Daft_Cat

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Please make the running time 2+ hours again. That was my biggest complaint about Quantum. It moves SO DAMN fast around vastly different countries that it felt schizophrenic; especially considering the plot was really just picking up Casino Royale's loose ends (no clear goal, unlike the Bourne movies it so obviously was trying to emulate).

It was just "get revenge and try and find what was up with Le Chiffre and co."

I also didn't like how the location headings were worked into the world..Felt too meta for me. Lessened my immersion every time it happened.

I love Bond. I LOVE Casino Royale. I even like Quantum. I just don't think we ever need to see a Bond movie structured like that again.

It's like Craig said: we need something more lyrical this time. Bond needs gravitas.

Oh, and as for my thoughts on the possibility of award mongering? If it leads to more actions scenes like Quantum of Solace's opera scene? Sign me the fuck up. I thought that was very tastefully put together. Totally had a classic Bond meets modern film-making feel.

It will still never win one of the big Golden Statues though.

For reference (crappy quality and ends to soon): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu_C5lQiecE
 
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Peru

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I think it was lyrical, and I think the style, the quick pace, was a logical result of the plot - ie, it was the best possible solution for a movie that's so clearly an addendum to the previous movie (thus no other clear goal, but I liked the idea of Bond just moving through a check list).

I don't want to see such a short or even quick Bond movie now, but I definitely think it was successful as a stylistic choice. I also don't think it looked or felt like a Bourne movie in any way.
 
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badcrumble

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The way I see it, the longish coda at the end of Casino Royale with James and Vesper in Venice is basically Quantum of Solace's first act. Sort of. But really, the two movies work best when fit together as a single film - the near-total lack of narrative interruption from the end of CR to the beginning of QoS is enough to make that clear.
 
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badcrumble said:
The way I see it, the longish coda at the end of Casino Royale with James and Vesper in Venice is basically Quantum of Solace's first act. Sort of. But really, the two movies work best when fit together as a single film - the near-total lack of narrative interruption from the end of CR to the beginning of QoS is enough to make that clear.
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It's the best way to watch it. I never really LIKED the film until I watched it back to back with some buddies.

Also, to the other poster, it didn't feel like Bourne apart from the action beats. They took clear stylistic inspiration.. ie shaky cam. It's not that it didn't work. I just don't want another Bond flick like that. I like my Bond action to be almost..theatrical. Classical set pieces, like the construction site from CR.
 
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Solo

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10 days til shooting starts. Surely very soon they will have the press conference to formally announce the title and introduce the cast.

EDIT: lolz, no sooner do I say that than....

Bond 23 official kick-off press conference to be held on Thursday 3rd November

The traditional press conference that marks the start of principal photography on the new James Bond film will be held next week in London, on Thursday 3rd November 2011.

Invited journalists were quick to spread the news about Bond 23 on Twitter today.

EON Productions, MGM and Columbia Pictures (distributors under the Sony deal) will present producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, new Bond director Sam Mendes and key members of the cast, who will be appearing together for the first time.

Stay tuned to MI6 next week for complete coverage of the event.

In the mean time, visit the Bond 23 production tracker to keep up to date on all developments.
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http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=9765&t=mi6&s=news

Nice! 6 days from now we will finally get confirmation on a lot of stuff! Hype!
 
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badcrumble

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Secret_Riddle said:
It's the best way to watch it. I never really LIKED the film until I watched it back to back with some buddies.

Also, to the other poster, it didn't feel like Bourne apart from the action beats. They took clear stylistic inspiration.. ie shaky cam. It's not that it didn't work. I just don't want another Bond flick like that. I like my Bond action to be almost..theatrical. Classical set pieces, like the construction site from CR.
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Only the car chase was really shaky. Each of the major action setpieces was filmed pretty differently from the rest.
 
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Ecotic

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This makes my day to know Javier Bardem will be the Bond villain. I just hope the director is good, he better not waste such a cast.
 
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Ecotic said:
This makes my day to know Javier Bardem will be the Bond villain. I just hope the director is good, he better not waste such a cast.
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He is the best director the Bond series has seen in a long, long time. That said, he will probably make a film that most Bond fans will dislike. I can't wait.
 
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Solo

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Cast:
Daniel Craig
Javier Bardem
Judi Dench
Albert Finney

Director:
Sam Mendes

Cinematographer:
Roger Deakins

Screenwriter:
John Logan

Rumored Cast:
Ralph Fiennes
Naomie Harris

DAT. BALLER. PRODUCTION.
 
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Expendable. said:
He is the best director the Bond series has seen in a long, long time. That said, he will probably make a film that most Bond fans will dislike. I can't wait.
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Fuck yes. Campbell fan tears will be glorious.
 
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Peru said:
Somehow I'd missed any news about screenwriters.. Is Logan paired with Purvis & Wade?
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Yes. Purvis and Wade wrote the script based off Peter Morgan's scriptment, and John Logan rewrote that ala Paul Haggis on CR.
 
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Solo said:
Cast:
Daniel Craig
Javier Bardem
Judi Dench
Albert Finney

Director:
Sam Mendes

Cinematographer:
Roger Deakins

Screenwriter:
John Logan

Rumored Cast:
Ralph Fiennes
Naomie Harris

DAT. BALLER. PRODUCTION.
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You missed one of the screenwriters there, friend. That being Patrick 'Closer' Marber which should make sure this Bond has some of the best dialogue ever.

Edit - Beaten like a whore giving out 2 for 1's.
 
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Solo

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Scullibundo said:
You missed one of the screenwriters there, friend. That being Patrick 'Closer' Marber which should make sure this Bond has some of the best dialogue ever.
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If you want to get technical, I left off 4 screenwriters :lol
 
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