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Japanese Devs Talk Revolution Controller
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Chittagong
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Wow. Judging those replies, they love it as much as they love the DS. If it gets similar amounts of support and unique games as a result, things may really turn around. I'm fully confident western developers will supply the cookie cutter games needed to balance the portfolio to casuals.
imastalker co.
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support for this system will be a lot more than expected. that's a fact. just wait and see,.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Well I think the important thing here, is that every developer will probably commit to at least one big exclusive title. Unlike the GameCube, there will be no option to port the game over.
Afro Thunder
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I'll wait for this :lolphantomile co. said:
God's Hand
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I love the idea of using the controllers against each other, and not worrying about the screen. There's some great ideas there.
Revolution is by far the most exciting next-gen platform. I'd actually go as far as to say that it's the only true next-generation console.
Revolution is by far the most exciting next-gen platform. I'd actually go as far as to say that it's the only true next-generation console.
Maybe not. After all, Nintendo's aim is to draft in new gamers. So there is a potential to increase the popularity of a franchise. If the Revolution was a cookie cutter console, then EA devs could just treat it as an afterthought. But if they actually put the effort in, which monetarily doesn't require that big an investment, there is a possibility to reach a large new audience and grow the franchise. The risk(investment) is low, but the payoff could be huge. There's a chance they'll all jump in.nine words said:
nine words said:
i just thought about this, and i realized that i barely play western-developed games. all i see on my shelf are amplitude,eternal darkness, and metroid prime (american-developed nintendo franchises don't count). seems like most of the really creative games are japanese--katamari, viewtiful joe, monkey ball, etc. i realize that western games have their appeal (for those who like FPS and sports games and...err...bioware rpgs?) but i honestly don't feel like I'll be missing out on much if western developers don't flock to the revolution. certainly not EA games.
Shikamaru Ninja
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The revolution has created a trump card hook because it summons developer support not just on the fact of the hope of creating an untapped market, but because it is a challenge to developers to see who can really take advantage of the new interface.
If Kojima makes a revolutionary game using the controller, Mikami will have to challenge him.
If Japan keeps making revolutionary games using the controller, American and European developers will have to challenge them.
If Kojima makes a revolutionary game using the controller, Mikami will have to challenge him.
If Japan keeps making revolutionary games using the controller, American and European developers will have to challenge them.
Mana 4 is for PS2 - there's no doubt about that at all. But there could be something for Revolution later in the project.SpiffyG said:Haha... I see what you mean, but I doubt the first Revolution screenshots would be from a third party.
But I guess it's possible since no one actually knows that it's for Revolution.
imastalker co.
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empanada said:
RPG - i can't say based on experience, but i'd imagine western RPGs would work very well with this controller. although im sure there's western RPGs out there that use a shit load of buttons on a keyboard.
racing games - well, there's plenty of things that can be done. you can have the classic style mechanics with the new controller (as well as the old controller shell). anolog to steer, and buttons for gas, brakes, and all that classic stuff. of course, there's new ways about going about it as well, but so far, nothing has been proven to be better. perhaps in due time.
sports games - depends on the genre really, but i can't see how this controller won't make the games more simple to play, without losing any depth what so ever.
FPS - you're a narbo if you don't think this is the new standard.
EA putting effort into something? Now, that´d be a revolution indeed!heidern said:
Seriously, I don´t think we´re gonna see anything great or new or even okay from western developers as long as Revo isn´t the market leader. Just look at the DS and tell me a good western developed game, time is ticking fast... Probably EA will add some kind of dumb control like it´s done with the DS. A control scheme that could work if they just tried hard, but they won´t, because after all, the game will sell better in MS and Sony´s consoles, so, why worrying putting money and effort into something that´s not gonna sell? Surelly in japan the Revolutioon will be a completely different story. BUt as I said before, until Revo isn´t the market leader, this is not happening. Just cross your fingers Revo launches with a great FPS packed with every console in NA.
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empanada said:
apparently, many werent too keen on the idea when it was first introduced to them. then nintendo made the analog stick attachment standard, and people started coming around a bit. (according to an interview i read somewhere, cant remember) . im guessing that after the mention of the standard controller shell, more western devs have begun to seriously look at the system.
Shikamaru Ninja said:
why not?
imastalker co.
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ports are do-able, but would sort of defeat the purpose for the most part.quadriplegicjon said:
ports on Revolution are more than likely gonna be an attempt at making a quick buck. although i can definitely see cases where games controls are improved when being ported over.
citrus lump
Banned
Reading the quotes about the similarities to the DS, and taking a second look at the revolution stand,makes me wonder how long till a DS player is released for it. It could keep the same shape.
Everything you "touch" on the DS could be done on the revolution controller-for the most part anyway.
Better yet, Nintendo should make the Sd card slots DS compatable. That would kickass.
Everything you "touch" on the DS could be done on the revolution controller-for the most part anyway.
Better yet, Nintendo should make the Sd card slots DS compatable. That would kickass.
Comfort_Eagle
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Honestly eventhough I really dont know much about the REV I am excited that Nintendo at least seems to be trying a different direction as their last two consoles really have been dissapointing. If the can offer up some cool new content I will be all over it!
gamergirly
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Amir0x said:
Depends upon whether you define a next-generation console as having more power or having better game experiences. Raw power and experience are exclusive of each other(you can have better looking and performing games but nothing "new" about it; you can have better game experiences without mind blowing appeal), together they define true generational growth.
D3RANG3D
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According to gcadvanced kojima is already making a Rev game of course I don't know the validity of this site.
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5943
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5943
Akai said:
DavidDayton said:
RPGs are a genre Western devs do well. Why are you startled by this revelation? There are tons of phenomenal western RPGs.
And David: Level up your reading comprehension. Needs to be lvl 10 or 11 at least.
gamergirly said:
No, it doesn't depend on that. Next-generation is defined by many things, and you're right - experiences are one of them. But power is absolutely indicative of a next-generation consoles, without question. In this way, there is no "more" or "less" next-gen console in the upcoming wars, for 360 and PS3 likely have the power advantage, and Revolution offers the new interesting control scheme to compliment the next-gen.
How well would FPS games work with the Rev controller? We've discussed it a bit before but it will definately require the second portion of the controller and even them I'm a tad skeptical that it will allow for the level of control that currently exists with current dual analog stick gamepads.
I wonder if 2D platformers could be responsive enough to play with the controller.
I wouldn't consider it "the true next gen", but rather I'd consider it was it was rightly named, a revolution. "Next gen" implies evolution, doesn't it?
I wonder if 2D platformers could be responsive enough to play with the controller.
I wouldn't consider it "the true next gen", but rather I'd consider it was it was rightly named, a revolution. "Next gen" implies evolution, doesn't it?
nine words said:
after a while you hit a point where more power doesn't do as much as it used to. and eventually, you'll hit a level of realism where it would be insane to try and program that much detail. I can definitely see room for improvement over the upcoming generation, but after that? and after that? how much power do you need to get your experience across? what could possibly be left to do? real-life simulators? how much do you think those would cost to develop?
Of course without Western and Japanese devs, we´d be left to play Chinese and Korean games, which isn´t exactly my picture of gaming heaven, you know...Speevy said:
As much as I agree that both can do masterpieces or crappy games, you must agree that one thing Western Devs use to lack, is innovation. I mean, western devs are great at mastering, refining and reusing proved formulas, but it´s rare to see a western arcade game like Super Monkey Ball or Katamari. Probably if western publishers would let devs do, we´d see more of an open market in the west.
Amir0x said:
Startled? Who said I was startled? I did do a bit of knee jerking, however... I've been running into a bit too many people who's sole experience with RPGs is the aforementioned Knights, which is often pointed to (by them) as the greatest RPG ever made. Hence my remark, which probably wasn't as accurate as it should have been.
Bother.
I am curious as to your reading comprehension slight, though... what did I fail to understand? I made a single post in this thread, and while you could easily construe my comments as being snide, I fail to see how you could possibly see them as a failure to understand what someone else had said.
imastalker co.
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:lolFight for Freeform said:
why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Madnessnine words said:
DavidDayton said:
KOTOR is a great RPG. It's a perfectly legitimate comment to feel it's the 'greatest', as it's just as deserving as any other number of candidates. That said, I do not feel that way. Nor was my first RPG experience KOTOR (it was Phantasy Star), nor do I only play Western RPGs (actually, I play more Japanese RPGs).
DavidDayton said:
Because the question asked was 'What genre besides FPS do Western devs do well?', and my response was RPGs. Nowhere in that exchange can it be implied that I meant "Western RPGs are the greatest", "KOTOR was my first RPG experience", or that I preferred that the best. Just that Western devs do the genre well.