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Japanese newspaper rumor: redesigned Vita unveiling just before TGS
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LiquidMetal14
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I always wonder why people have this reaction. Are you actually happy that this news isn't true? I have a launch unit and would be interested pending the changes.
It was more that the news had spread so far without any actual source or confirmation, and the-magicbox finally updated to reflect that. A new Vita model would be neat.
This. Even with the $200 vita at target and Best Buy,I can't bring myself to buy one knowing I'll have to drop another $30-50 just to store my games.
Or the XPeria thing? Sony made their XPeria phones compatible with the DualShock 3.
chickdigger802
Banned
you know why 3d gaming sucks on phones these days?
battery life.
You can play 3-5 hours at most for some high graphics unreal 3 game... but then your phone is completely dead, and in this age, no phone = youarealreadydead.jpg
one of the main reasons why i got an ipad, so i can play ios stuff without killing my phone's battery.
battery life.
You can play 3-5 hours at most for some high graphics unreal 3 game... but then your phone is completely dead, and in this age, no phone = youarealreadydead.jpg
one of the main reasons why i got an ipad, so i can play ios stuff without killing my phone's battery.
vivftp
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Devices already exist where you can simultaneously run Windows and Android, so I have to wonder just how much harder it'd be to run Android and Vita OS at the same time. Here's an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqRq-0oxSyI
I don't think integrating controls is going to be much of an issue. Look at the dimensions I posted to get an idea of just how far things have progressed. The Xperia Z Ultra is nearly 1/3rd the thickness of the Vita, and I don't doubt it's a fair bit more powerful and has a considerably larger battery. If they were to go with modern hardware for a Vita phone it could be extremely thin for the processor/memory/battery part, leaving more space for the controls. Xperia Play control style would probably be the best compromise as there is no specific control scheme that will 100% work because of the Vitas rear touchpad. Instead of analog sticks or the touchpads of the Xperia Play, use something like the nubs from PSP. It still gives you something to move about and actually feel, but still remains nice and thin.
Given how things have progressed, I don't see why they couldn't create a Vita phone that's in the area of 10-12mm. The Xperia Play was 16mm and was quite bulky, even for its time. But a dual boot Android/Vita OS smartphone with decent physical controls able to apply them to both Android and Vita/PSP/PS1/PSM games? That thing will sell like hotcakes IMO.
Sonys Xperia line are producing quality products so let them take care of the phone design and whatnot. This could be the greatest portable gaming device in history given all it could do. Hell, I'm sure the emulator crowd on Android would lap that up in a heartbeat.
If I had to give a reason as to why Sony hasn't produced such a device? I guess the possibilities are:
1) They realize a Vita OS only phone won't sell that much due to lack of app ecosystem
2) They realize that a Vita OS and Android phone will be much better, and it's taking time to build it
3) They have spent all this time locking down Vita OS, and introducing a foriegn OS coudl pose a security risk that throws all their safety measures out the window and opens the floodgates to pirates. Either they're working on a way around it, or they don't want to compromise their OS and have forgotten about it.
That's my best guess on that.
CaptainSlow
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Edit: Nevermind, isn't true.
I remember seeing this a couple of years ago, I think it was just a concept design for what eventually became the PSP Go?It's happening...
Heat output. A smartphone is designed for bursts of power and will not run at the advertised speed for long. The Vita has to run on max load for hours and never become uncomfortable to the user. Some smartphones get hot to the touch by browsing the web and will overheat in games.
They could stuff more into the shell (like a bigger battery), but I would never trade away having the hot parts in the middle far from my fingers.
vivftp
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Heat output. A smartphone is designed for bursts of power and will not run at the advertised speed for long. The Vita has to run on max load for hours and never become uncomfortable to the user. Some smartphones get hot to the touch by browsing the web and will overheat in games.
They could stuff more into the shell (like a bigger battery), but I would never trade away having the hot parts in the middle far from my fingers.
Yeah, that's another factor I suppose. I do wonder how the S800 processor handles such things.
I guess the next question is, could they use something like the Qualcomm S800 CPU and Adreno 330 GPU to do Vita games? Would it be compatible? Would it actually be powerful enough? IF something like the S800 and its GPU were more than powerful enough, maybe they could just downclock it a bit to tone down the overheating?
Ah well, this is still my dream phone, but who knows if/when it will ever happen
I'll still be getting Honami as soon as it's released and if this ever does happen, I'll likely get that too TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Um, redesign is nice and all, but what about the memory sticks? Honestly, that's all I care about.
Hope it has internal memory + current memory sticks as optional!
But...
...I won't be surprised if Sony develops a whole new proprietary memory stick for it and charge even more.
Hope it has internal memory + current memory sticks as optional!
But...
...I won't be surprised if Sony develops a whole new proprietary memory stick for it and charge even more.
I don't think so. The Vita games are made specifically for the Cortex A9 and several probably use tricks that only works with it, but I'm not an ARM expert at all. The GPU also has some special features so what I'd hope for would be a smaller node (think it's 40nm). The A9 isn't that slow though, the iPhone 4S, iPad Mini and iPad 2 all use a dual core A9 while the Vita has a quad core.
outunderthestars
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I''d be happy with an HDMI port and/or a change to SD memory cards.
vivftp
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Yeah, but then again this is new and improved Sony under Kaz Hirai where he's shaking up things. We can't use the actions of Sony of old to judge what Sony of now will do. Gaming and Mobile are two of their 3 core pillars and Vita (and by extension Vita phone and Vita tablet) are where those two divisions meet up on the hardware front.
Plus as was mentioned the release of the PS4 is a perfect opportunity to release a more appropriate companion handheld to go with it. Vita is damned good, but there is always room for improvement.
I want to get the new Tablet Z refresh that should be announced next month, but if they were to use their tablet designs and make a Vita tablet I'd be ALL over that.
Oooo... wonder if a Vita refresh could be water resistant since Sony is making damned near everything water resistant these days.
Plus as was mentioned the release of the PS4 is a perfect opportunity to release a more appropriate companion handheld to go with it. Vita is damned good, but there is always room for improvement.
I want to get the new Tablet Z refresh that should be announced next month, but if they were to use their tablet designs and make a Vita tablet I'd be ALL over that.
Oooo... wonder if a Vita refresh could be water resistant since Sony is making damned near everything water resistant these days.
I'm pretty sure that was fan concept art hinting at what people wanted in the PSP2. It's certainly been circulating since 2009, with all the verified Sony updates for their portables (at that time) pointing towards the PSP Go (which appeared to have dual sticks like the Vita at one point)
Can Sony successfully divide their time between the PS4 and a Vita product refresh and have both succeed to their expectations? Sounds tough.
Wickerbasket
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Yes, if it had a decent amount of internal memory.
The memory cards are the deal breaker for me.
chickdigger802
Banned
what kind of screen then?
pizzapizza64
Member
Today's presser has me scratching my head about this rumor. It wouldn't be insane to drop the price of the existing unit before releasing a new XL one...but...something about this seems fishy.
It's already been proven to be fake a million times in this thread, including the edited OP post, not sure why this isn't locked yet.
A new Vita model has been announced (NeoGAF official thread). Let's see how close was the original rumor was when posted by The Magic Box a month ago. The Japanese newspaper Tokyo Keizai reported a rumor that...
- Sony is set to reveal a new PS Vita model in September before the Tokyo Game Show.
(True)
- The new model PCH-2000 will have a 6.3" display manufactured by Samsung (screen size of the current model is 5"),
(False, but it is true that the OLED was ditched.... 1/4th point credit)
- The resolution will remain at 960 x 554 pixels.
(Typo on the numbers, but true that the rez stays the same)
- The amount of RAM will increase from 512MB to 1GB
(True)
The amount of RAM used by games will be unchanged
(True).
- The design of the new model will be more in-line with the PS4 design;
(False. Unless they meant Vita TV which I guess is still false)
- The system will launch with new game titles.
(Eight Vita games come out on 10/10/13, only one of which is a new, native title. 1/8th point credit)
~~~
So, the final score is 5.4 out of 8.0. Not CBoaT worthy, but I think the rumor source was on to something even if some details were wrong.
- Sony is set to reveal a new PS Vita model in September before the Tokyo Game Show.
(True)
- The new model PCH-2000 will have a 6.3" display manufactured by Samsung (screen size of the current model is 5"),
(False, but it is true that the OLED was ditched.... 1/4th point credit)
- The resolution will remain at 960 x 554 pixels.
(Typo on the numbers, but true that the rez stays the same)
- The amount of RAM will increase from 512MB to 1GB
(True)
The amount of RAM used by games will be unchanged
(True).
- The design of the new model will be more in-line with the PS4 design;
(False. Unless they meant Vita TV which I guess is still false)
- The system will launch with new game titles.
(Eight Vita games come out on 10/10/13, only one of which is a new, native title. 1/8th point credit)
~~~
So, the final score is 5.4 out of 8.0. Not CBoaT worthy, but I think the rumor source was on to something even if some details were wrong.
False. The new Vita comes with 1GB flash storage. The system RAM is still 512MB.
There was? The only thing they got right was that there was a redesign and that the resolution was unchanged (duh).
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