Tertullian
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This deserves at least one quote, as alas, did Jeb not deserve at least one primary?
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This deserves at least one quote, as alas, did Jeb not deserve at least one primary?
this is my favorite campaign moment of all time. even the raw footage is sublimely hilarious.
I love the motioning stage tech. I'd like to read an interview with him
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Just realized i missed one of these and started watching the earlier one before yesterdays. When the CBS promo is going through the candidates.. the Rubio part has me dying.
It just boggles my mind that he thought it was okay to beg people to clap for him like that. Did he not realize how desperate it would look?
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I think this was Jeb!'s rock bottom moment.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
He thought it was funny maybe. It is really difficult to hate Jeb but it was such a disastrous campaign for him. I bet he was forced to suspend his campaign and endorse Rubio.
ehh I see Herbert Hoover and James Bucanon being much worse. George wasn't a good president, but atleast he didn't lead us into the Civil War or Great Depression
Whether George was the all-time worst depends on who you ask. Especially since going into Iraq will be looked back on as the worst foreign-policy decision in American history.
The revilutionary war tho (kidding)
water_wendi
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Any particular reason why a Rubio/Bush ticket wont happen? Or is that a large possibility?
AngmarsKing701
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Dubya had one of the worst ever approval ratings as he left office though. This country couldn't wait to be rid of him. Obama used the whole "Change!" campaign as a way to get this country excited about having a president who could speak, who was smart, who had ideas. All of the things Dubya wasn't.
What surprised me about Jeb! running was all the people, Jeb! included, who thought they could use Dubya as a positive point on the resume. "He defended this country." Trump absolutely nailed him to the wall on that. And then to drag Dubya himself on stage in SC as a last ditch desperate attempt to make headway, only to fail miserably, just speaks volumes about where the Bush name is in terms of politics in this country.
Jeb! was never going to work. He can't distance himself from his brother, and he can't wash his brother's stain off himself.
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
Jeb never knew what the bottom was. He could always keep digging.
balladofwindfishes
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From the same state, can't.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
That's just his sense of humor. It doesn't make for good optics.
boiled goose
good with gravy
I honestly think rubio is worse than trump.
Trump is not as religious.
Not as anti choice.
Not a shill for big oil and war.
Trump could be a huge disaster.
Rubio is a guaranteed mess.
Lord_Byron28
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I think many on here are overestimating the impact of his brother on his campaign. The fact of the matter is, a good candidate would've been able to use the Bush name to their advantage. Jeb! was the dork that the high school bully liked to pick on. That is his major problem as to why he lost.
water_wendi
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Sorry Jeb, i laughed. Thanks for making my morning!
He didn't look like he was joking. He looked very sad and desperate for someone to give a damn about what he was saying.
it's in the timing. watch the video. it's a weird self-defeating joke, but a joke
Rock bottom Jeb is when his mom said he's not her favorite child.
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Wait, that's real? hahahaha
QuicheFontaine
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He has a chance for second though! His mum did say "Of all the children? No."
Well, this kinda shows the horrors of running a campaign. You spend literally 12 months, day and night, on the trail holding meetings, interviews etc. And literally 99 % of the time everything runs smoothly, but then, one out 100 times, you screw up and it ends up as headlines. I mean, the only reason journalists are even trailing the candidates for every single little event is for one reason only: to catch any misstakes or gaffes by the candidate.
Angelus Errare
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Assuming republicans don't quad dip and move even further right (at some point it wraps around and they're going to end up on the left). I think he should.
Jeb Factorial should have ran in 2008. GOP at this point is too toxic for any sane republican to run.
Now imagine you have to do it for 4 years, with actual people's lives at stake.
Jeb is just not mentally qualified.
I never saw that clip of Jeb! saying he'll whoop Hillary and his regret face after the audience reaction. lol
Lol, savage!
water_wendi
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Its heavily edited for humor. The audience reaction is very different in reality.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/12/03/jeb-bush-whup-hillary-clinton-sot.cnn
Andrew Jackson fam
Say what you will, but at least he destroyed the Bank.
Someone on Facebook literally posted that history will show the Bush family in a favorable light to which I wondered how delusional this person is
Damn. It 's so perfectly timed. Foiled again twice today!
water_wendi
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Thanks numble and the other person that answered me earlier. Jeb has like a permanent rain cloud above him.
It'll take a long time to wash the collective taste of the Bush family from America's political mouths.
Destroying the bank caused a massive speculative bubble that resulted in one of the worst depressions in history and left our banking system so pathetically weak and unorganized that until we passed FDIC we saw massive depressions and shocks to the system very very frequently, more frequently and more severe than any other country who had a central bank.
So yea, destroying the bank was a fucking terrible decision on Jackson's part.
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thepotatoman
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On the economy - "People Need to Work Longer Hours"
On planned parenthood - Im not sure we need half a billion dollars for womens health issues
On Minimum Wage - "The federal government shouldnt be doing this".
On Medicare - "We need to make sure we fulfill the commitment to people that have already received the benefits, that are receiving the benefits, but we need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system that allows them to have something, because they're not going to have anything."
On his use of the offensive term "Anchor Babies" - "Frankly it's more Asian people"
On privatizing Social Security - "My brother tried, got totally wiped out, Republicans and Democrats wanted nothing to do with it. The next president is going to have to try again."
On getting black people to vote Republican - "Our message is one of hope and aspiration, it isnt one of division and get in line and well take care of you with free stuff. Our message is one that is uplifting that says you can achieve earned success.
I know he's become a sympathetic character after all the Trump bullies Jeb jokes, but this guy has a lot more going against him than his last name and low energy.
On planned parenthood - Im not sure we need half a billion dollars for womens health issues
On Minimum Wage - "The federal government shouldnt be doing this".
On Medicare - "We need to make sure we fulfill the commitment to people that have already received the benefits, that are receiving the benefits, but we need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system that allows them to have something, because they're not going to have anything."
On his use of the offensive term "Anchor Babies" - "Frankly it's more Asian people"
On privatizing Social Security - "My brother tried, got totally wiped out, Republicans and Democrats wanted nothing to do with it. The next president is going to have to try again."
On getting black people to vote Republican - "Our message is one of hope and aspiration, it isnt one of division and get in line and well take care of you with free stuff. Our message is one that is uplifting that says you can achieve earned success.
I know he's become a sympathetic character after all the Trump bullies Jeb jokes, but this guy has a lot more going against him than his last name and low energy.
Yes, he destroyed the core financial instrument of any functioning country
I will never get the fascination with banks needing to not exist. Banks are a natural result of any capitalist system and will arise regardless of govt intervention, because people will always naturally want to buffer, speculate, and shift money
Skiptastic
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I might be the one person on this forum who would consider themselves a Jeb fan so I can just tell you my thoughts:
Jeb and Kasich are the ones in the race who seemed competent (so better than Rubio) and much more moderate than Cruz and Carson, who just seem absolutely off the rails in what they want the country to become. Probably because the two of them are or were governors, so they already know about working with a legislature and having to represent an entire state.
He seemed like someone who could at least represent a Republican Party that existed before the Tea Party, which admittedly could use changes but the changes we are seeing are going the complete opposite direction of what the GOP needs to do. And yes, he was awkward and had missteps but for all the laughing at those missteps I saw things I would do or say so I empathized with him.
And he was the one person who at least tried to step up to the bully Trump. It just saddens me that this is the kind of character that people in my country want to elect.
It's over now so I'm probably voting for Hillary or whomever comes out of the Dem side because the GOP left standing just doesn't interest me othe than Kasich but he doesn't have a chance.
I'm more going to be happy because hopefully the whole "Jeb is a mess" thing is over. It's really been fucking awful trying to keep up with what is going on in the news, which I do here because it's a great one stop shop for what is happening, and having to see the person I rooted for mocked and mocked and mocked. It always seemed like a crowd of people laughing at the kid who is getting beaten up at school. But that's just the way I saw it.
So yeah, there are absolutely people who rooted for Jeb who are now going to vote for the Dem side.
Under that qualification, none of the Republicans are qualified. But we all knew this forever now.
What the hell are you talking about? Kaisch was very adamantly against rights for the lgbt community, , women (and before getting into this, his defunding of Planned Parenthood hurts far more issues revolving around women than abortion, like basic reproductive health check-ups for men and women and the necessary steps to help with these matters if something were to be more serious, educational services for families who either already have children or are planning to have children, basic access to effective birth control so the family can maturely decide and handle when they want to have children/more children, etc. etc. PP defunding is a huge blow to the lower class and to women, families, and even men's rights. it's an all around attack on the American family. They, the Republicans, would rather you have less access to health-care and less access to your right to decide when you have a family. They want to punish people, especially the lower class and it rings loud and fucking clear) and racial minorities himself. The dude is straight up a bigot and is just as far right as the rest of the Republicans. That's not even considering his disastrous economic plans. Advertising yourself as moderate when you are anything but makes Kaisch just as dangerous a candidate as Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Carson, Bush or *insert the clown-car here*. They're all essentially the exact same. Some, like Trump, are just more honest about their insanity.
BadAss2961
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What an embarrassment. He just fed Trump's ego and momentum a super mushroom.
Well... He's got a little while left to uproot his family and move in hopes of being vp.
Gallup has already shown that both Bush presidents have become more liked nowadays. This is especially true within Republicans. It is the Bush name that got Jeb this far, it is Jeb that poisoned the well.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/171794/clinton-elder-bush-positively-rated-living-presidents.aspx
The climate is not for "more of the same". Jeb is not what conservatives want today. Lots of money wasted on nothing.
Its the biggest hurdle that Hillary will have to face, in addition to her dodgy past, flip flopping, emails, unlikeability, Bill's adventures (oh wait there is a ton of other stuff)
Its the biggest hurdle that Hillary will have to face, in addition to her dodgy past, flip flopping, emails, unlikeability, Bill's adventures (oh wait there is a ton of other stuff)
Perfect Blue
Banned
A nice reminder of how much of a scumbag Jeb! was: http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/learning-jeb-bush-terri-schiavo
Good riddance. I cringe every time someone describes this lunatic was the "sensible choice".
Good riddance. I cringe every time someone describes this lunatic was the "sensible choice".
I never thought this looked desperate or cringey or anything like that.
IchigoSharingan
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is there a compendium of videos summarizing why this is the case?
andthebeatgoeson
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What's the horn reference?
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Oh God, fuck him even more. Jesus fucking Christ, this guy was fucking evil.
We dodged a bullet. Blessed Trump.
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