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Jim Ryan on Indies 'It was just good to talk about in 2013. It is less relevant now'
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OfTheOverflow
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Full quote is less controversial, honestly. Basically 'we're focusing on other things at the moment.'
James Scott
Banned
Reading the whole quote I guess it makes sense...probably not something you should say aloud, tho...or at least not in that way
McMoneyman
Member
This have been a Jim Ryan interview
Kenzodielocke
Banned
GAF. READ. ALL OF IT.
I didn't have many characters to work with, has to edit a little. It's the bit that stood out int the interview. I did quote the wider answer.
Yeah it jumped out reading it
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Someone get this guy out of Sony.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Let me hold this L. Complete non issue within context of the whole quote.
Yearsoflurking
Member
he is wrong, indies are some of the best games at e3 regardless of time shiwn on stage
Grim Patron
Member
he should STFU
Yeah, this isn't especially bad. "We used to really highlight indies so people knew we were serious about them. Now, it's not really required because we have lots of indie support as an integral part of our library."
That's...not really that bad, nor does he disparage indies at any point. Maybe just wait another ten minutes for him to say something actually stupid before going after him.
Jarod McChicken
Member
Jim Ryan is clumsy as fuck but there is indeed nothing wrong with the full quote here, just a click-hungry headline.
Acquiescence
Member
Don't agree with him. Sony absolutely should've shown some indies at their show, if just to break the monotony of seeing another third-person action-adventure with foliage everywhere.
Undertale got announced for the PS4 and the Vita during the pre-show. That honestly was a bigger shock than anything shown in the main segment.
Undertale got announced for the PS4 and the Vita during the pre-show. That honestly was a bigger shock than anything shown in the main segment.
rochellepaws
Member
Jim is on a roll lately with terrible comments. Those video montages shouldn't be viewed as only existing to make a "statement", they should be to inform gamers of the type of software in the pipeline. Certain games like Cuphead, Night in the Woods or even Rocket League first caught my attention because of their appearance in those sort of montages.
I can't believe how out of touch this man is with his audience, it's deeply concerning if he really does represent Sony's views.
I can't believe how out of touch this man is with his audience, it's deeply concerning if he really does represent Sony's views.
themagicalkitsune
Member
Do any of you ever read the article before smashing that caps lock button
It is less relevant to talk about because they have more relevant stuff they want to focus on, like VR. He's not saying they're unimportant in any general way.
It is less relevant to talk about because they have more relevant stuff they want to focus on, like VR. He's not saying they're unimportant in any general way.
dugdug
Banned
Yo, for real.
I know he's said a lot of dumb shit in the last few days but this is clickbait 101.
hanspampel
Banned
pretty much.
but he also basically acknowledge this with that quote: "we did not have many high profile first party exclusives and third party partnerships in the past to offer (and show), so we focused on indies - now that changed"
somecrazymember
Banned
GAF and misleading titles
Bits N Pieces
Member
Indies were important for us in 2013 but not now, VR is important for us now but wont be in 3/4 years.....
lol
lol
this has nothing to do with quality. Its just that those montages with a bunch of games dont do those games justice because they feed almost nothing to the audience
Vanillalite
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He's half right.
MS doing a quick indie montage video then moving a long is functionally barely better than what Sony and Nintendo did which is nothing at all.
That being said no reason Sony, MS, and Nintendo shouldn't continue to do indie showcases even if they aren't necessarily something made for the E3 big stage.
I hope Damon Baker keeps on doing Nindies directs for Nintendo as an example.
MS doing a quick indie montage video then moving a long is functionally barely better than what Sony and Nintendo did which is nothing at all.
That being said no reason Sony, MS, and Nintendo shouldn't continue to do indie showcases even if they aren't necessarily something made for the E3 big stage.
I hope Damon Baker keeps on doing Nindies directs for Nintendo as an example.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Psx was named the indie show on here the first two years yet them same ppl in here with the nonsense
benicillin
Banned
*insert juxtaposed comment thread of people complaining about indie montages at previous shows and indie games showing up on PS+*
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Or the last sentence. I don't think he's saying indies are less irrelevant, but talking about how Sony supports them isn't as important as it was during launch. VR is their hot new commodity, so it takes precedent.
Edit: The internet is the same, so stop acting like GAF is better than every other place.
The Last One
Member
Yeah, I agree. Actually, maybe dissidia is Square's own fault, they announced it before the E3, but Gran Turismo should have been at the conference.
BassForever
Member
The whole quote isn't bad and I understand the point he was generally trying to make. At this point exclusive indies won't sell your console past it's current audience, but sony has tons of vr headsets to convince people they need to buy. I imagine if there was a really big indie game they'd highlight it.
DarkLordMalik
Member
He is not wrong since the quote talks about E3 showcase. I kind of agree with him. If I need to see indies, I can just visit PS Blog. At E3, I need my AAA games.