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Jonathan Blow doesn't read contracts carefully.

I always picture this when I hear anything about him.

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Reading his conversations on this tweets made me think about his current game.

Does he end up hating Sony when he realizes they are giving his game away for free on ps+ years after he forgot to read his contract.
 
Whipped Spartan said:
Reading his conversations on this tweets made me think about his current game.

Does he end up hating Sony when he realizes they are giving his game away for free on ps+ years after he forgot to read his contract.
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Sony can't make games PS+ randomly. It's a deal reached with the publisher.
 
SapientWolf said:
This is probably the mildest Twitter flub I've seen here in awhile, and yet people are calling for his head. I'm guessing that people just don't like his anti MS agenda, but I really can't blame him for that.
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I haven't read every page of this thread (I did see one guy say he should leave the industry) but what do you mean by "calling for his head"? Could you post a link? Because it sounds absurd. What could people possibly want him to do at this point?
 
StuBurns said:
Sony can't make games PS+ randomly. It's a deal reached with the publisher.
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I would agree. I also am assuming this guy hears what he wants to hear/remember and is naive to contracts with other companies.

What makes you think he didn't know what his XBL game pricing was.
 
There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking him to task for posting something so dumb. This "Leave Jonathan alone!" stuff is pretty silly. No one's calling for him to be imprisoned here, it's just a particularly stupid mistake that deserves a negative reaction.
 
KHarvey16 said:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking him to task for posting something so dumb. This "Leave Jonathan alone!" stuff is pretty silly. No one's calling for him to be imprisoned here, it's just a particularly stupid mistake that deserves a negative reaction.
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exactly. If you're willing to go out on a public stage and call someone out then you better be willing to suffer any consequences for doing so (especially if you end up being wrong...)
 
Whipped Spartan said:
I would agree. I also am assuming this guy hears what he wants to hear/remember and is naive to contracts with other companies.

What makes you think he didn't know what his XBL game pricing was.
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That's just ignorance, he didn't know because presumably he didn't care all that much, and it's been so long that he'd forgotten. It doesn't seem like there was any contract secrets here, just forgetfulness.

The Witness is different, he's publishing it (well, his company who's name I can't remember), Sony don't have as much control in this instance.

Maybe it will be PS+, maybe his exclusivity contract already established that, but I'd think he'll know.

I do think he's going to be bitching about Sony once it ships though, he mentioned he hasn't read the submission guidelines a while ago, and he'd previously talked about how he thinks Sony would let him not have achievements and things, I think he's going to find Sony's TRCs just as bizarre and demanding as MS's.
 
Nothing like the ability to be able to share whatever you want with hundreds or thousands of followers that removes all discretion before taking to Twitter to tweet about your kneejerk reactions. The "Well, maybe I should pull it off of XBLA now" is some primadonna type stuff though.
 
Kinyou said:
Doesn't really change that this is a rather shitty reaction by him, even if he couldn't actually act on it
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He had a pouty Twitter temper tantrum with some limp wristed threats and now we several posts talking about how he's an idiot who deserves to have his games boycotted. All that pent up JB hate had to come from somewhere, and it wasn't from the tweets in the OP.
 
SapientWolf said:
He had a pouty Twitter tantrum with some limp wristed threats and now we several posts talking about how he's an idiot who deserves to have his games boycotted. All that pent up JB hate had to come from somewhere, and it wasn't from the tweets in the OP.
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lol exactly. it's as if they've been waiting for this kind of thread. the dude made a mistake, recognised it, and corrected himself all within an hour. some peeps act like blow has to grovel and ask for forgiveness.
 
The problem with digital venting: It goes to everyone.

Sometime ago this whole digital social service was considered dangerous and stupid. I mean, real names attached to real people.

"Makes more money on Steam".. ouch Microsoft. :)
 
Typical indie dev ranting aimlessly. I think it's safe to say that if it works out that you just know the name of an indie dev without having looked it up, they probably have or about to say/do something completely moronic.

Anyways, I like how his reaction to them putting his game on sale is that he pulls it and makes it like Steam only. Funny on two fronts because now instead of simply less money per unit on XBLA he wants $0 and he's decided to take it to Steam, a platform not at all known for offering sales and steep discounts, right? Peace out homie. You will not be missed.
 
Senor Kami said:
Typical indie dev ranting aimlessly. I think it's safe to say that if it works out that you just know the name of an indie dev without having looked it up, they probably have or about to say/do something completely moronic.

Anyways, I like how his reaction to them putting his game on sale is that he pulls it and makes it like Steam only. Funny on two fronts because now instead of simply less money per unit on XBLA he wants $0 and he's decided to take it to Steam, a platform not at all known for offering sales and steep discounts, right? Peace out homie. You will not be missed.
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I think his reaction was more about not being told/asked. At least that's what it seemed like to me.
 
godelsmetric said:
what does this have to do about the fact that blow ran to twitter to complain about something that happened two years ago with his consent
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People are being condescending towards Blow because they don't like him as a person and this undermines the negativity of Microsoft's actions.

What I said wasn't in defence of Blow as much as it was a criticism of Microsoft's wrongdoings.
 
kick51 said:
Hey look a human made a mistake, lets rake his ass over the coals because we're bored instead of showing a bit of empathy!
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It would be one thing if he didn't make a habbit of going out of his way to crap talk MS, but alas, he does, so when he jumps to conclusions and doesn't even know his game has been at "x" price for the last 3 years then we get to call him out on it. Weird idea, I know.
 
thewhitehawk said:
People are being condescending towards Blow because they don't like him as a person and this undermines the negativity of Microsoft's actions.

What I said wasn't in defence of Blow as much as it was a criticism of Microsoft's wrongdoings.
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But...at least in this case, Microsoft didn't do anything wrong. Braid has been 800 points for a couple of years. There was no recent price change. And when the price changed a couple of years ago, he agreed to it.
 
And this is why larger companies have experienced PR people to handle things like twitter. Eventually, any person who uses twitter as freely as Blow does will eventually say or do something stupid.
 
ActionRemix said:
Why does this make you want to buy his games less? The developer says something you don't like and now you don't want his game anymore. I just don't get it.

Communicating with people who have been through media training is boring. The interesting thing about Twitter is we can communicate directly to public figures without going through PR middlemen. Encouraging people to resign themselves to silence when they goof constricts our access to them.
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He is essentially a company. Do you also not get it when people refuse to buy an EA game because they don't like EA? Or people that don't want to buy an Xbox because they don't like MS as a company?

This stuff happens all the time. Not like I subscribe to that line of thinking, but I am able to see why others might.
 
Slow news day I guess. Ever since Braid, Blow has been notorious with his comments towards Microsoft so with this mishap it really doesn't surprise me he would instantly try to blame them. But whatever, hopefully we have something better to rant on/discuss tomorrow.
 
StuBurns said:
Owe is a strong word, and Braid certainly made him wealthy, but it did have a notable impact on the 360's public perception, it was the beginning of the modern indie focused XBLA. They don't owe him, of course, but it does seem extremely strange they wouldn't have courted The Witness as early as possible.
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Say what you want about MS, but they're normally fairly professional (Adam Orth: exception). If Blow came at their executives with a bunch of nonsense and acted like a primadonna, they probably told him to kick rocks. And after all the noise he's been making against MS, I wouldn't court a damn thing he did if I were them.

But then again, they're not stupid, and if they see an opportunity to make money out of the deal, they probably would.
 
There are a small handful of game developers who are both in the spotlight and willing to speak their minds. They may make more mistakes than the media trained, but my God people would mourn them if they disappeared altogether.
 
Rodelero said:
There are a small handful of game developers who are both in the spotlight and willing to speak their minds. They may make more mistakes than the media trained, but my God people would mourn them if they disappeared altogether.
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He's unprofessional, and spiteful. It's not an either/or situation to expect him to treat others with respect while also making games. This behavior deserves contempt.
 
Maybe we should pay attention to developers who when they say "my game" we don't automatically know what game they are talking about because they only made one and it came out in 2008.
 
SapientWolf said:
This is probably the mildest Twitter flub I've seen here in awhile, and yet people are calling for his head. I'm guessing that people just don't like his anti MS agenda, but I really can't blame him for that.
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Calling for his head? People are calling him a blowhard or that his tweet was idiotic. Both of which are true and know where near calling for his head
 
...Scatter... said:
Say what you want about MS, but they're normally fairly professional (Adam Orth: exception). If Blow came at their executives with a bunch of nonsense and acted like a primadonna, they probably told him to kick rocks. And after all the noise he's been making against MS, I wouldn't court a damn thing he did if I were them.

But then again, they're not stupid, and if they see an opportunity to make money out of the deal, they probably would.
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I don't think he was so anti-MS until The Witness was announced for PS4, it think he felt like Braid was important, he was making a high profile indie game, MS were making a new console, and they should approached him about it. That's not unreasonable to me. Kojima was publicly pissed off that Sony hadn't buttered him up more with PS4. I think people have expectations based on previous professional relationships, and since Braid was important to XBLA, it's reasonable to imagine MS would be interested in The Witness.
 
Northeastmonk said:
The problem with digital venting: It goes to everyone.

Sometime ago this whole digital social service was considered dangerous and stupid. I mean, real names attached to real people.

"Makes more money on Steam".. ouch Microsoft. :)
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Didn't he say that it made a ton of money when Steam made it a 75% off flash sale game? Man I hope they asked him first.
 
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