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[UraMallas]

Agreed.

The fact that the same company that made Buffy, Angel and Firefly made this is just baffling. Poor writing, poor acting, and a misogynistic and idiotic premise. Fox can't kill it soon enough IMO.

Hopefully whatever Joss makes next is back up to his usual level of quality.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Agreed.

The fact that the same company that made Buffy, Angel and Firefly made this is just baffling. Poor writing, poor acting, and a misogynistic and idiotic premise. Fox can't kill it soon enough IMO.

Hopefully whatever Joss makes next is back up to his usual level of quality.

Firefly is stretching it. It never came close to Buffy or Angel and has just as much tendency towards the misogynistic and farfetched in its premises as Dollhouse.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Dollhouse is a better show right now than Buffy and Angel were in their first season. People really need to go back and watch them to see just how long it took them to really get off their feet (Angel especially).

 

[dead souls]

Firefly is stretching it. It never came close to Buffy or Angel and has just as much tendency towards the misogynistic and farfetched in its premises as Dollhouse.

I agree somewhat, and Firefly is definitely wildly overrated (still pretty damn good though), but at least it didn't have people getting raped in nearly every episode.

 

[anaron]

I agree somewhat, and Firefly is definitely wildly overrated (still pretty damn good though), but at least it didn't have people getting raped in nearly every episode.

Oh please. The show is not trying to sell the idea of the Dollhouse being a good place. I believe episode 8 covered that.

Agreed.

The fact that the same company that made Buffy, Angel and Firefly made this is just baffling. Poor writing, poor acting, and a misogynistic and idiotic premise. Fox can't kill it soon enough IMO.

Hopefully whatever Joss makes next is back up to his usual level of quality.

You know, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt dead souls but it's pretty damn evident now that you have absolutely no interest in the show other than to see it fail. Hell, I've seen you on two other message boards basically saying "just cancel it already."

 

[ivysaur12]

Agreed.

The fact that the same company that made Buffy, Angel and Firefly made this is just baffling. Poor writing, poor acting, and a misogynistic and idiotic premise. Fox can't kill it soon enough IMO.

Hopefully whatever Joss makes next is back up to his usual level of quality.

We get it. For the last time.

Please, stop. You obviously have no interest in this show, as has been evident from before the show aired. You don't like it. I'm almost positive that if the next episode ended up the best thing on television you still wouldn't like it. Yes, the show has its faults. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. But I don't think I've ever seen someone want a show to fail this much before.

 

[Geoff9920]

Wow, I see dead souls is still up to the same routine.

Dollhouse is a better show right now than Buffy and Angel were in their first season. People really need to go back and watch them to see just how long it took them to really get off their feet (Angel especially).

While I personally don't dig Dollhouse's premise or character's as much as buffy or angel, I do agree that those shows started way weaker than most people remember.

 

[Blader]

The "Buffy and Angel weren't good in their first seasons either" argument is pretty weak. Unless Whedon is incapable of improving as a writer, there's no reason why, after all of these years, he couldn't open his new show with a stronger beginning than Dollhouse has had.

Also, Angel and Buffy, if nothing else, started out with promise. Not in terms of story, but character. Both of those shows had chemistry between their actors, which always prevailed when the stories failed. Dollhouse doesn't have that (partly due to the premise, which, imo, is in of itself a problem).

 

[SolidSnakex]

The "Buffy and Angel weren't good in their first seasons either" argument is pretty weak. Unless Whedon is incapable of improving as a writer, there's no reason why, after all of these years, he couldn't open his new show with a stronger beginning than Dollhouse has had.

It has little to do with his writing. Fox pushed him into making Dollhouse more episodic and told him to scale back the character interaction. He's mentioned the same thing has happened to him before. Just look at Dr. Horrible if you want an example of what he's capable of when he's allowed to make a show that he wants without networks screwing around with the concept. Dr. Horrible was spot on from start to finish.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

The "Buffy and Angel weren't good in their first seasons either" argument is pretty weak. Unless Whedon is incapable of improving as a writer, there's no reason why, after all of these years, he couldn't open his new show with a stronger beginning than Dollhouse has had.

Also, Angel and Buffy, if nothing else, started out with promise. Not in terms of story, but character. Both of those shows had chemistry between their actors, which always prevailed when the stories failed. Dollhouse doesn't have that (partly due to the premise, which, imo, is in of itself a problem).

Totally. Saying "Hey, this is better than what I consider to be those shows' worst seasons" is pretty weak praise. I also happen to agree with you in terms of those seasons. While neither were the show's best, both got me interested in the show itself from the get go, unlike Dollhouse.

 

[anaron]

The PaleyFest panel for Dollhouse is about to start.

I'm following the tweets of those that are there so I'll update subsequently to the postings. Some of the people following it:

http://twitter.com/Tabz
http://twitter.com/danregal
http://twitter.com/tlacook

 

[ZeoVGM]

Jesus Chris, dead souls.

You really just kind of gave it away there. Stop coming in here, please.

 

[Blader]

It has little to do with his writing. Fox pushed him into making Dollhouse more episodic and told him to scale back the character interaction. He's mentioned the same thing has happened to him before. Just look at Dr. Horrible if you want an example of what he's capable of when he's allowed to make a show that he wants without networks screwing around with the concept. Dr. Horrible was spot on from start to finish.

You sure about that? Because I remember when Whedon was promoting the show, he seemed pretty damn proud that the first 5-6 episodes were all written like pilots.

 

[anaron]

You sure about that? Because I remember when Whedon was promoting the show, he seemed pretty damn proud that the first 5-6 episodes were all written like pilots.

I'm not saying Joss should be let off the hook here or anything for the quality of the first five episodes but it's a well known fact that FOX had some influence on the first few episodes.

Here's a quote from Joss back in October:

The show was ruined by Flim Flinear. Okay, that's another lie, and you're probably close to giving up on this blog, so here we go. Yes, we've had to make adjustments. Yes, it's been hard and I've been depressing to be around for awhile. Basically, the Network and I had different ideas about what the tone of the show would be. They bought something somewhat different than what I was selling them, which is not that uncommon in this business. Their desires were not surprising: up the stakes, make the episodes more stand-alone, stop talking about relationships and cut to the chase. Oh, and add a chase. That you can cut to. Nothing I hadn't heard before on my other shows (apparently my learning curve has no bendy part) but frustrating as hell given our circumstances - a pilot shot, scripts written, everybody marching together/gainfully employed... and then a shutdown. Glad I was for the breathing room, but it's hardly auspicious. So back into the writer cave I went, wondering why I put up with this when I can make literally dozens of dollars making internet movies. Why I do put up with this is divided into three parts.

One: They're not wrong. Oh, we don't see eye-to-eye on everything, but wanting the first episodes to be exciting and accessible is not exactly Satanic. Being Satan is, but that's in their free time and hey, there's no judging in the Dollhouse. This kind of back and forth has happened on every show I've done, so if you liked those, chances are that was a part of why. And the need to focus on the essentials of what makes this universe tick - and which wire to cut to make it stop - really does bring up our game. So we as a staff have gone from blinking like unhoused moles to delving in with the same relish we had when we started. The show is really coming together now, in a way that I believe excites us and satisfies the Network. Of course, I have no idea if anybody else will like it, but I have the same faith in the staff, the crew and the remarkable cast that I always did. More, in fact. And what's more crucial:

 

[anaron]

"13Th and second season are optimstic according to joss"

"Very strange episode and beautiful episode"-joss

Episode 12 is a great ending "two words: Tim Minear"

 

[LAUGHTREY]

"13Th and second season are optimstic according to joss"

"Very strange episode and beautiful episode"-joss

Episode 12 is a great ending "two words: Tim Minear"

Where?



Dollhouse and Terminator get similar ratings and if I had to take a guess, probably cost about as much.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Where?

He linked to it above.

 

[ZeoVGM]

The "Buffy and Angel weren't good in their first seasons either" argument is pretty weak. Unless Whedon is incapable of improving as a writer, there's no reason why, after all of these years, he couldn't open his new show with a stronger beginning than Dollhouse has had.

Not at all. The point is that MOST shows take a few episodes, sometimes a whole season to find what "it" is. There aren't many episodes that get it right off the bat. Lost is one of them.

But either way, the first 5 episodes of Dollhouse were still good TV. Not amazing, but it wasn't bad or anything of the sort.

 

[dead souls]

Oh please. The show is not trying to sell the idea of the Dollhouse being a good place. I believe episode 8 covered that.

The problem is that the show seems devoid of any subtlety or nuance, which seems necessary if you want to make a show with this dark of a premise. People like Topher, Adelle and the rest of the Dollhouse employees are black-hat wearing moustache-twirling villains without a single redeeming quality. Why would viewers want to watch them every week?

Not at all. The point is that MOST shows take a few episodes, sometimes a whole season to find what "it" is. There aren't many episodes that get it right off the bat. Lost is one of them.

I don't get this at all. Blader5489 is exactly right. There's no reason why a show can't come out of the gate strong, especially seeing as this is Joss' fourth series. The list of recent shows with great pilots and first seasons would be fairly large. Most shows don't launch with apologies, telling people to wait for the sixth episode that will fix everything.

 

[SolidSnakex]

The problem is that the show seems devoid of any subtlety or nuance, which seems necessary if you want to make a show with this dark of a premise. People like Topher, Adelle and the rest of the Dollhouse employees are black-hat wearing moustache-twirling villains without a single redeeming quality. Why would viewers want to watch them every week?

While Topher certainly seems to be completely evil, how exactly does Adelle fit into that mold?

Besides, what's wrong with being completely evil? Angelus was like that and he was one of the best characters to come out of the Buffyvese.

 

[Blader]

Not at all. The point is that MOST shows take a few episodes, sometimes a whole season to find what "it" is. There aren't many episodes that get it right off the bat. Lost is one of them.

I don't agree. In fact, with the exception of The Simpsons and maybe The Office, most (if not all) of my favorite shows began with a strong opening batch of episodes. I don't think that's a coincidence.

But either way, the first 5 episodes of Dollhouse were still good TV. Not amazing, but it wasn't bad or anything of the sort.

Good for Fox maybe. :lol

While Topher certainly seems to be completely evil, how exactly does Adelle fit into that mold?

Besides, what's wrong with being completely evil? Angelus was like that and he was one of the best characters to come out of the Buffyvese.

But what made Angelus interesting was that duality relationship with Angel. If Angelus was a completely separate person unrelated to Angel in the way he was, would he be interesting at all?

 

[ivysaur12]

The problem is that the show seems devoid of any subtlety or nuance, which seems necessary if you want to make a show with this dark of a premise. People like Topher, Adelle and the rest of the Dollhouse employees are black-hat wearing moustache-twirling villains without a single redeeming quality. Why would viewers want to watch them every week?

You're kidding, right? Every person in the Dollhouse, form Topher to Saunders, has been shown as sympathetic to the viewer. I don't even think of them as evil characters most of the time. So yeah, no.

EDIT: Here's some good news:

We also talked about next season, they called me specifically to say we've been hearing you sound a little despondent, being very clear about this, the show is not cancelled. The numbers have been soft, but the demographic is wonderful. DVR is great, they [FOX] are big fans of the show and they're waiting to see what happens, so now I've gone from a place that's sort of ehhhhhh, they don't even care, no one loves me, to a place of - God, I can't believe I'm saying this...hope.

 

[Dan]

Link please.

I stand by a belief that the show will return. It's not a cheap show, but a lot of that was upfront costs which won't be relevant for the future. The demos are good and with different scheduling it might be able to expand that. Believe.

 

[SolidSnakex]

But what made Angelus interesting was that duality relationship with Angel. If Angelus was a completely separate person unrelated to Angel in the way he was, would he be interesting at all?

To me at least, he would've been just as great. I liked Angelus a lot more than I liked Angel. I also really liked Drusilla, another character that was pretty damn evil. I always found it amusing to see just how much they enjoyed what they did. I'd actually prefer that there were a character like them on Dollhouse. Yeah, Topher seems to be evil but he comes off as being obnoxious.

 

[anaron]

Joss Hopeful for second season.

We also talked about next season, they called me specifically to say we've been hearing you sound a little despondent, being very clear about this, the show is not cancelled. The numbers have been soft, but the demographic is wonderful. DVR is great, they [FOX] are big fans of the show and they're waiting to see what happens, so now I've gone from a place that's sort of ehhhhhh, they don't even care, no one loves me, to a place of - God, I can't believe I'm saying this...hope.

The Hollywood Reporter's writeup and Futon Critic's.


Once again, credit to Whedonesque for the finds.

 

[thestopsign]

Joss Hopeful for second season.




The Hollywood Reporter's writeup and Futon Critic's.


Once again, credit to Whedonesque for the finds.

A wee bit late there.

 

[Kreed]

A wee bit late there.

Yeah but at least he provided a link/source. Either way this is good news.

 

[Tokubetsu]

Wow, I see dead souls is still up to the same routine. While I personally don't dig Dollhouse's premise or character's as much as buffy or angel, I do agree that those shows started way weaker than most people remember.

I'll agree with you guys on buffy there but as a recent watcher/new fan of Angel. Gotta disagree on that one.

 

[ZeoVGM]

I don't get this at all. Blader5489 is exactly right. There's no reason why a show can't come out of the gate strong, especially seeing as this is Joss' fourth series. The list of recent shows with great pilots and first seasons would be fairly large. Most shows don't launch with apologies, telling people to wait for the sixth episode that will fix everything.

They do when the network you're on starts getting into the show and changing things before the show even airs.

I'll use this to ask again, because you seem to ignore it every time someone calls you out: why are you in this thread if you pretty obviously never liked the show and still don't? The only thing you ever talk about is ratings, and you post to point out that they suck. That's trolling and it's just annoying having you shit up the thread with your negativity.

I'll agree with you guys on buffy there but as a recent watcher/new fan of Angel. Gotta disagree on that one.

It wasn't a bad show, but it was typical freak-of-the-week stuff. Angel is my favorite show ever, maybe more than Lost, but the first season was standard stuff. At least, the first few episodes were.

The first 5 episodes of Dollhouse are not bad TV. They're nothing amazing, but it's not bad TV. And one of them was pretty damn good (I wanna say #5, but my numbers might be screwed up).

 

[Chemo]

It wasn't a bad show, but it was typical freak-of-the-week stuff. Angel is my favorite show ever, maybe more than Lost, but the first season was standard stuff. At least, the first few episodes were.

The first 5 episodes of Dollhouse are not bad TV. They're nothing amazing, but it's not bad TV. And one of them was pretty damn good (I wanna say #5, but my numbers might be screwed up).

Angel is my favorite Whedon work too, and I'd go so far as to say that several of the first season's eps, particularly the early Doyle ones, are pretty bad. I think Angel has the worst start to any Whedon series (Dollhouse included), which says a lot because ultimately I think it had the best payoff, even if it ended on a cliffhanger.

But seriously, even Buffy started stronger than Angel. dead souls is just such a fucking hater... he's been repeatedly shown Whedon's piece about how Fox meddled with the first part of the season, and has repeatedly refused to acknowledge it. All he can say is that the show sucks, he hates the premise and actors and characters, all the episodes are bad, and that he's so glad the ratings suck because he can't wait to see it get canceled.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Pretty much. It's okay that he doesn't like it. Really. But he's not even adding conversation about the show to the thread. It's specifically the ratings. Just don't come into the thread! And he ignores when people call him out on it.

 

[Krowley]

I actually think Buffy started off pretty good. It was freak of the week, but it was fun and entertaining from the beginning and all the shows main themes were present in embryonic form. When I re-watch the show, I always enjoy the first season.

Angel had a very poor start to me, and I almost hate the entire first season. I think it's the worst season of anything that Joss has ever been involved in.

I disliked the first 3 or 4 episodes of Firefly and then it got super awesome and stayed that way till the end.

I'm a little behind everybody else in this thread on dollhouse (I've got to catch up on a couple of episodes soon) but I think this has been a decent start for this show. Better than Angel, worse than Buffy, and better than the first few episodes of Firefly, but not as good as the later ones. There are some definite problems with the shows overall structure and it hasn't been amazing, but I wouldn't call it bad by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[HAOHMARU]

Dollhouse is a better show right now than Buffy and Angel were in their first season. People really need to go back and watch them to see just how long it took them to really get off their feet (Angel especially).

I agree with this 100%.

 

[dead souls]

They do when the network you're on starts getting into the show and changing things before the show even airs.

This is such a lame excuse. Every tv show has to deal with tons of studio notes and interference. It's amazing how Joss is somehow never responsible for any of the quality issues on his shows. It's always the network's fault or that evil Marti Noxon. Did Fox mandate stand alone episodes to start the series? I guess so, but I don't think that they asked them to be boring messes. Ultimately Joss is responsible for the quality of Dollhouse since he's the executive producer.

I'll use this to ask again, because you seem to ignore it every time someone calls you out: why are you in this thread if you pretty obviously never liked the show and still don't? The only thing you ever talk about is ratings, and you post to point out that they suck. That's trolling and it's just annoying having you shit up the thread with your negativity.

What are you talking about? I've made plenty of posts that didn't involve ratings. The reason I haven't responded to that criticism is because it isn't accurate. For example in post #1189 I discussed my opinions on "Spy in the House of Love" without mentioning ratings once. But when others are talking about ratings, I see no reason why I can't chime in. A show that's on the bubble is always going to inspire a lot of ratings chatter.

As for why I'm still here, why not? I'm still watching the show and am interested to see what other people think about it even if I don't agree with them.

 

[NewLib]

Dollhouse actually reminds me a lot of Angel.

The first half of season 1 was just subpar, but the second half, while not amazing, definitely showed future promise. It worked out with Angel, dont know if it will be given a chance with Dollhouse.

 

[ivysaur12]

Dushku optimistic about renewal

"There've been some changes inside Fox I don't know if you're aware of," Dushku said. "I think Friday nights were a difficult night. Now we have Prison Break coming in, and we've been keeping our audience. It's not just a Nielsen world anymore. They factor in DVR. They factor in iTunes and Hulu, and we seem to have a pretty rich, pretty strong fan base. People are really getting into the show and [creating good] word of mouth, and the shows are getting more and more complicated and twisted. I feel like people are talking about it even more, and hopefully that gets back to the folks at Fox."

Interesting. I wonder if something happened in the past week or so that made them seem to change their tone? Joss and co. were very doom and gloom before.

 

[NewLib]

The main problem with Dollhouse is two names: Dushku and Kranz. If the show focused more around Ballard and the main dolls were Victor and Sierra, the show would be 150 times better.

 

[sublime085]

I like this show. I don't want it to go away.

All I can do is keep tuning in and blindly buy whatever products are advertised during commercial breaks.

 

[ZeoVGM]

(Going off topic with a little rant now. Fair warning.)

Well, if it's renewed, let's just hope Fox doesn't do what they did to Dark Angel's second season and say, "hey guys, we want you to make the show more like Buffy, so add some mutants and do a freak-of-the-week" thing.

It was still good, but the first season was far superior. By the end of the season, they took the show in a cool direction, seeming to find what they wanted to do with the changes they made to the show. The last few episodes were great, including that freaking awesome finale James Cameron directed. And it ended on a note that was like "wow, they are taking this show in a hugely interesting and completely different direction."

Fox told the crew they were renewed for a third season, but then when fall announcements came out, they were canceled.

For what?

Firefly.

Fox didn't think it would make sense to have two sci-fi shows (despite being NOTHING alike) on the same network. And then we know what they did to Firefly.

Moral of the story: I really hope Fox gives the damn show a second season.

 

[anaron]

A wee bit late there.

My bad.


Btw, IGN has their coverage of the event and brief interviews with the cast.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

So what does an executive producer do anyway?

 

[Raistlin]

(Going off topic with a little rant now. Fair warning.)

Well, if it's renewed, let's just hope Fox doesn't do what they did to Dark Angel's second season and say, "hey guys, we want you to make the show more like Buffy, so add some mutants and do a freak-of-the-week" thing.

It was still good, but the first season was far superior. By the end of the season, they took the show in a cool direction, seeming to find what they wanted to do with the changes they made to the show. The last few episodes were great, including that freaking awesome finale James Cameron directed. And it ended on a note that was like "wow, they are taking this show in a hugely interesting and completely different direction."

Fox told the crew they were renewed for a third season, but then when fall announcements came out, they were canceled.

For what?

Firefly.

Fox didn't think it would make sense to have two sci-fi shows (despite being NOTHING alike) on the same network. And then we know what they did to Firefly.

Moral of the story: I really hope Fox gives the damn show a second season.

God ... I actually forgot about that timeline >_<


Thanks for reminding me T_T

I'm expecting them to one up the above debacle, Fox will just cancel two shows I've been following at the same time. Terminator and this.

 

[Dan]

Dushku optimistic about renewal



Interesting. I wonder if something happened in the past week or so that made them seem to change their tone? Joss and co. were very doom and gloom before.

Sounds to me like Whedon was just publicly unleashing his insecurity born solely out of Fox not calling him every Saturday morning to talk about ratings and demographics. It sounds like he, and Dushku, just hadn't been told what Fox's view on things were and now they know. It's funny too, because what they're now saying is basically what a variety of TV analysts have been saying for weeks.

The main problem with Dollhouse is two names: Dushku and Kranz. If the show focused more around Ballard and the main dolls were Victor and Sierra, the show would be 150 times better.

I definitely do not understand the people who believe Ballard's storyline is one of the stronger parts of the show. He has no real motivation thus far. He's just blindly obsessed with finding the Dollhouse and Caroline. For no real reason. He's almost obnoxiously self-righteous. And is that the actor's real voice? Cuz it sounds so damned forced to me. Every time he talks all I hear is "this is my super serious, deep yet breathy voice." It seems like such an affectation.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Sounds to me like Whedon was just publicly unleashing his insecurity born solely out of Fox not calling him every Saturday morning to talk about ratings and demographics. It sounds like he, and Dushku, just hadn't been told what Fox's view on things were and now they know. It's funny too, because what they're now saying is basically what a variety of TV analysts have been saying for weeks.


I definitely do not understand the people who believe Ballard's storyline is one of the stronger parts of the show. He has no real motivation thus far. He's just blindly obsessed with finding the Dollhouse and Caroline. For no real reason. He's almost obnoxiously self-righteous. And is that the actor's real voice? Cuz it sounds so damned forced to me. Every time he talks all I hear is "this is my super serious, deep yet breathy voice." It seems like such an affectation.

Uh, they keep sending him messages and they royally fucked up his life. Plus he is in the business of helping people.

He isn't missing motivation, and his voice and posture is a little overdone, but is completely eclipsed by Dushku's facial twitches when she "acts".

 

[LAUGHTREY]

God ... I actually forgot about that timeline >_<


Thanks for reminding me T_T

I'm expecting to one up the above debacle, Fox will just cancel to shows I've been following at the same time. Terminator and this.

I can handle no more dollhouse, I have too much invested in Terminator to continue to watch anything on Fox or 20th Century Fox if they cancel Terminator.

 

[Dan]

Uh, they keep sending him messages and they royally fucked up his life.

But he was just as blindly dedicated and obsessed before any messages or interference. Nothing has changed because of that, except that now he's also incredibly paranoid.

Plus he is in the business of helping people.

He was. And even then, it seemed more like an excuse for his self-righteousness rather than credible sympathy or even empathy for those he might save.

 

[Raistlin]

I can handle no more dollhouse, I have too much invested in Terminator to continue to watch anything on Fox or 20th Century Fox if they cancel Terminator.

I agree, of the shows I watch that are on the brink (this, Chuck, and Terminator) ... sadly, this is at the bottom of the list. If by some small twist of fate I can get 2 out of 3

Spoiler

ain't bad - lol

to come back, Dollhouse is getting sacrificed to the gods/devils.

Can't believe I'm saying this about a Joss show, but that's how it goes I guess.

 

[Kreed]

(Going off topic with a little rant now. Fair warning.)

Well, if it's renewed, let's just hope Fox doesn't do what they did to Dark Angel's second season and say, "hey guys, we want you to make the show more like Buffy, so add some mutants and do a freak-of-the-week" thing.

It was still good, but the first season was far superior. By the end of the season, they took the show in a cool direction, seeming to find what they wanted to do with the changes they made to the show. The last few episodes were great, including that freaking awesome finale James Cameron directed. And it ended on a note that was like "wow, they are taking this show in a hugely interesting and completely different direction."

Fox told the crew they were renewed for a third season, but then when fall announcements came out, they were canceled.

For what?

Firefly.

Fox didn't think it would make sense to have two sci-fi shows (despite being NOTHING alike) on the same network. And then we know what they did to Firefly.

Moral of the story: I really hope Fox gives the damn show a second season.

You forgot to mention they moved Dark Angel from Wednesday to Friday night, causing it's ratings to drop significantly.

 

[Cornballer]

No episode tonight? I guess they're doing a Prison Break block.

 

[Raistlin]

No episode tonight? I guess they're doing a Prison Break block.

What I'm confused by ... isn't there supposed to be a new one next week though?

According to my DVR, there ain't