Liquidsnake
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rukland said:
Cool. I mean I could wear it around the house like I do with my gaming shirts. I could maybe even wear it to the gym like I do with my ODST hoodie.
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Cool. I mean I could wear it around the house like I do with my gaming shirts. I could maybe even wear it to the gym like I do with my ODST hoodie.
Keyser Soze
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dream said:
Which is fine, as any character winning forever can grate. Punk cannot be "I am god" forever
Some kind of beating / beatdown will make it interesting for him to come back from when it happens.
That HHH one was far too early though, and Summerslam is too TBH. The PPV after could probably have Punk on the backstep
dream
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I forgot this part
Even though our response levels were much higher for the Destination X PPV than most TNA PPVs, based on early reports, and keep in mind for TNA, nobody keeps close track because the numbers are so small, they indicate a slight decrease for Destination X compared with Slammiversary the month before. A rough estimate would be 8,500 and 8,000 respectively. But it wasnt as if there was any increase from usual, and the only thing you can say is it didnt drop even though none of the big money guys except RVD worked the show. But the idea of an X Division show as a concept that draws, well, that wasnt the case.
Even though our response levels were much higher for the Destination X PPV than most TNA PPVs, based on early reports, and keep in mind for TNA, nobody keeps close track because the numbers are so small, they indicate a slight decrease for Destination X compared with Slammiversary the month before. A rough estimate would be 8,500 and 8,000 respectively. But it wasnt as if there was any increase from usual, and the only thing you can say is it didnt drop even though none of the big money guys except RVD worked the show. But the idea of an X Division show as a concept that draws, well, that wasnt the case.
Sometimes you wonder why TNA even bothers charging people for PPVs at this point. Hardly any of their viewerbase is even watching the titles change hands!
People would probably be more inclined to buy them if either
a) TNA used a special PPV set in another studio to make it feel like you're not paying for Impact
b) Held PPVs in actual arenas.
People would probably be more inclined to buy them if either
a) TNA used a special PPV set in another studio to make it feel like you're not paying for Impact
b) Held PPVs in actual arenas.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Brah there was no change in buy rates, that means all the big money guys are worthless and dont draw anymore then x guys, so cut the fight and have younger guys save money, same vuys. feels good man.remnant said:
Dork Knight
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I really would have loved to have seen the original idea for Punk returning just to see the inevitable Internet meltdown afterwards.
It would have been the COMPLETE opposite of the ending of MITB.
It would have been the COMPLETE opposite of the ending of MITB.
but they draw on T.V instead of losing viewers, and Impact overall did a better number with older males than younger males. Males more likely to watch for the "legends" than for X Division guys., which is what surprised me earlier. Also Destination X was compared to Slammiversary, which did worse than Lockdown.Rafa=FedKilla said:
BoboBrazil
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dream said:
That's what happens when you fucking bury the x division for 3 months on tv before having a fucking x division themed ppv. Also, lol at the original plan for CM Punk. I won't be surprised if he still does screw Punk at Summerslam leading to their feud.
Net_Wrecker
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Rafa=FedKilla said:
Forreal. If RVD was the biggest name on the card, and they only drew 500 more buys than if Hogan, Sting, Angle, Anderson, Jarrett, Steiner, Flair, Meth, etc. were on there, cut em all loose, and focus on being Impact Wrestling instead of WCW 2.0.
And if TNA expected 15,000+ buys after how many times they've burned the audience with piss poor showings over the last year 1/2, they're crazy.
The nerve of these 2 companies expecting immediate rating/buyrate boosts despite them being totally sub-par. Unbelievable.
spindashing
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I don't feel HHH should return as a wrestler. He's best backstage now.
HarryDemeanor
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Thank god it isn't happening.DMczaf said:
It probably is going to happen at some point.
Tawney Bomb
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Summerslam?HarryDemeanor said:
Net_Wrecker
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dream said:
With the talent at their disposal, and them being more open to working with free agents, they can EASILY be turned around, quality wise, in 8-12 months. Easily. Building trust with the audience would take a while longer, but they have a ton of talent. Hogan, Bischoff, Russo, and Dixie seem motivated to not let that happen though.
spindashing
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The sad part about TNA is that they could be the #1 promotion. They have the money. They have the talent, but yet they insist on trying to one up the WWE... From the rehashed wrestlers, to the other bad gimmicks and storylines, to the shaky-cam backstage format...
As I've said before, they try too hard to make their product "real" when wrestling is fake. If TNA focused more on their homegrown talent and didn't rely on wacky shenanigans, things would be different.
Sometimes they do strike gold. Destination X was one of those moments.
As I've said before, they try too hard to make their product "real" when wrestling is fake. If TNA focused more on their homegrown talent and didn't rely on wacky shenanigans, things would be different.
Sometimes they do strike gold. Destination X was one of those moments.
BoboBrazil
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We would be coming upon the 1 year anniversary of Paul Heyman coming into TNA if they would have agreed to his demands...
dream said:
They will be in trouble when Spike TV is not satified with there 1.1-1.3 rating each week. Also, they have the money but not everyone gets paid evenly. You know its not good when one of there wrestlers is on food stamps. The main problem with TNA is that they want to relive the attitude era but instead they are like WCW 1999-2000. They need to stop booking millions swerves, story lines with no payoffs or with huge logic holes to be successful.
But in the end they are going to have a headline match of Sting versus Hogan in 2011 with the top angle being Hogan going babyface :/
Liquidsnake
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Tna can be fixed if they fire Russo. Plan out story lines longer term. I feel like they throw as much poop at the wall and try to see what sticks.
They throw younger guys out there with no story and if there quarter hour ratings drop on the guy they push him aside. I like having the legends in the mix, but who are they putting over? It's a mess. I hate this crash tv style garbage, and how the backstage segments are produced in a way that we are to believe that it's being taped in secret.
They can start by having real backstage promos conducted by a real interviewer who can bring something to the table ala mean gene. They can stop run ins in every damn match.
It's like a circus sometimes. I love Hogan, Sting, Flair, but my god do something with them. Why can't Flair come out and give a good real promo. Why does he only do the crazy man act? I wish he would go back to cutting some more meaningful promos.
I don't know. I love the roster they have. I just hate the writing.
They throw younger guys out there with no story and if there quarter hour ratings drop on the guy they push him aside. I like having the legends in the mix, but who are they putting over? It's a mess. I hate this crash tv style garbage, and how the backstage segments are produced in a way that we are to believe that it's being taped in secret.
They can start by having real backstage promos conducted by a real interviewer who can bring something to the table ala mean gene. They can stop run ins in every damn match.
It's like a circus sometimes. I love Hogan, Sting, Flair, but my god do something with them. Why can't Flair come out and give a good real promo. Why does he only do the crazy man act? I wish he would go back to cutting some more meaningful promos.
I don't know. I love the roster they have. I just hate the writing.
BoboBrazil
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With Spike changing directions and trying to get rid of their male only image they will get rid of TNA pretty soon. Unfortunately TNA cares more about attempting to spike a rating than building storylines and characters to draw at house shows and get people to buy ppvs. They turn characters so many times a year that you can't care about anyone or anything. Shit at the spoilers they are turning
face again.
either Bubba or Anderson
Professor Beef
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If that was true, then the tag division should've been flourishing.Lunchbox said:
BoboBrazil
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dream said:
At that point they were doing around 30,000 to 40,000 buys for their ppvs instead of 8,000 according to Meltzer.
funkystudent
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I would be ok if HHH screws punk out of the title at Summerslam. Its ether that or Cena beats him clean.
Punk can continue fighting "the man" and Cena can do something else until Del Rio is ready to cash in.... he will have to do it before mexico in October? right? They probably want him as champ when they head there if not just save it until the raw taping itself.
Also I hope Punk gets a new finisher to go along with his new music and t shirt... I dont like the GTS.
Punk can continue fighting "the man" and Cena can do something else until Del Rio is ready to cash in.... he will have to do it before mexico in October? right? They probably want him as champ when they head there if not just save it until the raw taping itself.
Also I hope Punk gets a new finisher to go along with his new music and t shirt... I dont like the GTS.
Net_Wrecker
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dream said:
I could've sworn I heard recently in one of these wrestling podcasts that their PPV numbers were a lot better in 2003-2006. Does no one else remember this are am I going crazy?
And I don't think it's fair to say that if TNA had kept up their 2005-2006 quality, and gotten even better since then, that they'd be in the same position. They were clearly a company on the rise.
EDIT: I guess Meltzer said it.
Liquidsnake
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I mean my god if I told you here are the keys to this wrestling company, and you get AJ Styles, RVD, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Sting , Hogan, Flair, Steiner, and all the young talent in the x division, how could you mess it up?????
You wanna know my thoughts? They need to change direction and get rid if Russo. Do you guys remember the rating they got on Hogans debut????? It was huge. What did they do with that momentum? They ran it into the ground.
I get so mad when I think of 1997-1998. Will we ever see the business get that hot again. If I have a son tomorrow and I want to share wrestling with him, I refuse to have John Cenacle be his hero!!!! Refuse!!!!!
You wanna know my thoughts? They need to change direction and get rid if Russo. Do you guys remember the rating they got on Hogans debut????? It was huge. What did they do with that momentum? They ran it into the ground.
I get so mad when I think of 1997-1998. Will we ever see the business get that hot again. If I have a son tomorrow and I want to share wrestling with him, I refuse to have John Cenacle be his hero!!!! Refuse!!!!!
BoboBrazil
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dream said:
They were getting 5 times as many buys and better house show attendance. They were building characters that people actually cared about back then. They sacrificed all of that additional money for a .2 of a rating point. I can't fucking wait to have Philadelphia shit on Hogan vs Sting though. Will be great.
BoboBrazil
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I still don't understand why they cut Carver. The guy seemed to show alot more promise than some other guys that are still employed.
spindashing
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Plywood said:
There was a lot of booty shaking and spanking in that match. Also Kelly Kelly trolling Maryse with her own taunt.
And... Who can forget Melina's battle cry? I LOVE BEING A DIVA!
:lol @ Tarver. I guess the Christian Rapping gimmick didn't hold up.
Net_Wrecker
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dream said:
Professor Beef
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Whatever happened to that second limo anyways?Liquidsnake said:
Net_Wrecker
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On one hand I'll feel kinda bad when the hardcore Philly crowd just rips them to shreds.
On the other hand, they brought it on themselves and I'll be rofling. I didn't even care about the match in 97.
The spirits of Vince, R-Truth, Hand Henry, Katie Vick, and Big Show's Dad drive it around the hood every full moon.
On the other hand, they brought it on themselves and I'll be rofling. I didn't even care about the match in 97.
Professor Beef said:
The spirits of Vince, R-Truth, Hand Henry, Katie Vick, and Big Show's Dad drive it around the hood every full moon.
Buckethead
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Man I've seen white girls from Wisconsin shake it better... pathetic.Plywood said:
dream
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Plywood said:Put up or shut up.
That said it got one of the bigger pops of the night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tXNEr_nx5Y
Net_Wrecker
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dream said:
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