shinobi602
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This is from Masrani Global, the owner of Jurassic World in the movie. It's a viral site obviously:
http://www.masraniglobal.com/investors/index.html
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Jurassic World Official Trailer
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Beardz
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You sir are a fucking genius.
The rumors were that terrorists took over the park and strapped guns and missiles to the dinosaurs. The army hit back and strapped their own guns and missiles to the 'tame' dino's.
It sounded god awful and it made a mockery of the series.
Jesus, no wonder films like Transformers make huge money with todays audience.
Deadly dinosaurs were already in the park. They've been making bank on rollercoasters with chainsaws for a while.
About half a year ago, and they're all animals I've seen dozens of times. I've been to zoos more times than I can count in my life. And that's without a fucking t-rex.
BattleMonkey
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This sounds amazing
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
We must've watched two different things.
I cannot understand why people expect trailers to tell them practically everything there is to the film, or expect it to hold their hand. I'm sure you've seen the other films; does it really need to explicitly flash "New Character Here!" (not intending to sound rude per se, but you get the point) to the new introductions? You can tell who they are based on the prominence of their featuring in the trailer itself, both in terms of total screen time and role significance.
A basic plot outline is established and easy enough to figure together even if by some miracle you haven't seen the other films by now, and no, it didn't really focus on the new engineered dino, not until the 2nd half. I'll agree tho that the concept of a bio-engineered "half-breed" dino alone is nothing to write home about, but the trailer did it's job; it set the stage of expectation for what the film will be about, introduced new characters, and got people to pay attention.
Even if the trailer was bad (it's not excellent, but it doesn't suck either), that's not much indication on how the movie will be. Some of my favorite films ever would make for pretty lousy trailers I imagine.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
This is what I was getting at earlier in the thread. People would be unbelievably stoked just to be seeing dinosaurs. No need to create a super Rex. Modify one of the other dinosaurs.
To today's movie audience, i'm sure it does.
shinobi602
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I highly doubt you're the norm, no offense.
Calcium
Banned
Bingo. The park has been open for 10 years. That's how people feel about the dinosaurs in Jurassic World. They've seen what the park has to offer so they come up with a bigger and better attraction. Clearly some of us would be thrilled with seeing dinosaurs over and over, but some people would get bored with them.
I think u two grossly underestimate the cynicism and short attention span of today's youth.
brianmcdoogle
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Here's an idea: Hammons company created a new Jurassic Park and it's everything that he wanted where it is safe, clean, fun for all ages, and like Disneyland. Then, this new company comes around and tries to create a new park that tries to undercut Jurrassic park by having the modified dinosaurs, more thrills, and is like the six flags of amusement parks where it is just adrenaline and no family fun. Have the movie be focused on that park and how it goes wrong, and even then you can tie into the theme of they didn't have the mishaps of the original Jurassic Park they didn't earn the knowledge they should stood on the shoulders blah blah blah. There's your justification for the new dinosaurs, for retreading much of the previous movies, and for continuing some of the themes. For the people who are upset about the set up of this new movie, I think something like this would work.
Or not. Like I said, I don't mind the central premise of this new movie. I just think what is shown in the trailer looks like bad portends of what is to come as a movie. Maybe they just showed bad stuff in this trailer and it won't be as visually and directorally boring like 2 and 3. Who knows. And who cares to some extent. It'd be like expecting a good Rocky movie when there's only been one in the franchise (1) and one so bad it is amusing to watch (4). F all you want is dinosaurs runni amuck, you know you are going to get it, and if you want a good movie, the series as a whole is not in your side.
Or not. Like I said, I don't mind the central premise of this new movie. I just think what is shown in the trailer looks like bad portends of what is to come as a movie. Maybe they just showed bad stuff in this trailer and it won't be as visually and directorally boring like 2 and 3. Who knows. And who cares to some extent. It'd be like expecting a good Rocky movie when there's only been one in the franchise (1) and one so bad it is amusing to watch (4). F all you want is dinosaurs runni amuck, you know you are going to get it, and if you want a good movie, the series as a whole is not in your side.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Possibly. I reckon I'd be visiting that park monthly.
Do you know that there's new people too? They're called kids
Calcium
Banned
Wow, I better call up literally every amusement park and zoo in the world and tell them about these "kids". No need to improve their existing attractions because if they wait long enough these "kids" will show up!
What's your net income? A park that you have to take a plane, boat and monorail for, isn't gonna be a $40 visit.
Daniel Jackson
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I like it!
Anton Sugar
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So, according to the LEGO leaks, some raptor info:
I'm all for it.
individual raptors might actually be characters/have identities. They appear to all have different names and color schemes.
I'm all for it.
Comparing Jurassic World/Park to a Zoo is a poor parallel considering Jurassic Park is (or would have to be) a premium experience with he amount invested in such a place. A Zoo is an easily accessible, if not free, place that you attend sporadically throughout your life... be it on school field trips or just something you did during the summer. You would go to Jurassic Park as if you were going to Disney World or, to a lessor extent, Sea World. This also highlights one of the key components that is noticeably absent from the Jurassic World trailer: that magic feel. Disney World is decades older than the fictional Jurassic World, yet has been consistently advertised in a magical way, while Jurassic World felt incredibly fake and boring... if not ridiculous, too.
That's just too much. Why did they have to use the JP IP? Make an original movie if you want to do this stuff.
You've got under 3 minutes to wow people to go see your movie. When using practical effects like puppets or animatronics in movies, they're often static enough so they don't have to move a lot, as it's harder to make them appear as organic as their real life counterpart.
Shots that used puppetry on Jurassic World are probably not 'exciting' enough to showcase in a trailer like the one we just had.
Also, more often than not, puppets are then enhanced or replaced by CG doubles to enhance the pose or the appearance of the creature. (See : The Grey, Where the Wild Things Are, Hellboy 2)
Calcium
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Amusement parks upgrade or add in new attractions just like any zoo would. Also, isn't Sea World just an aquatic zoo? I've never been.
The magic is there, it just wasn't presented very well. I really enjoyed seeing what it was like for the park to be fully operational. Probably just nostalgia getting to me more than any magic factor, I guess.
Well why don't they just improve on the variety instead of producing the superkillerterminatordinosaur? But I'm prepared to be swooned away by the great writing of JW.
SquiddyCracker
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Raptor posse.
Calcium
Banned
I assume they are doing it because they can, really. I imagine the character BD Wong plays rather enjoys playing God.
shinobi602
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"Here's a lion"
Oh, nice.
"Now here's a tiger"
That's great.
"Here's a tiger spliced with a porcupine mixed with a rhino"
HOLYSHITWTFISTHATWOW!?!?!
Even beyond that simple explanation, these are geneticists at the cusp of technological advancement in the field. Of course they'd want to push themselves even further.
And the director commented on this:
This is also a recurring theme from the very beginnings of the series, it's not a new idea:
Anton Sugar
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I don't know if we'll ever have that feeling of "wonder" that Jurassic Park brought. I personally don't think we will. It was the dawn of a new era of technology and perfectly packaged.
Is Jurassic World a premium experience? Sure, it's on Hawaii, but it looks like there are a lot of average people who get to attend. I'm not saying it's a zoo, but if we're comparing to the Disney World...I haven't been to Disney World in years and don't really have any desire to do so. Disney World also changes its attractions on a regular basis.
I'm pretty sure some of the raptors in JP (the novel) were
given names
It's no more weird than
giving names to lions/tigers/etc.
Quite honestly, I'm glad that they're doing this, because it comes closer to portraying them more as animals and not just bloodthirsty predators. Dinosaurs were animals. It's not as necessarily as black and white as "carnivore" and "herbivore".
Calcium
Banned
Haha, interesting combination you went with there.
By "introduce" I don't mean, "tell me this person's name, occupation, and what his role is". A trailer doesn't have to hold my hand to give me a good idea of what the film will be about.
Take Chris Pratt for example; if I didn't read interviews or news confirmations, I would have no idea who he was, and you know what, that would have been alright to some extent. The ISSUE is that the trailer decides to show him as if we already know who he is. Is he a dinosaur expert? A field guy? Scientist? Adventurer? According to the trailer he's just "some guy" who talks to Jurassic World staff members and takes night rides with Velociraptors.
The trailer IS about the specially engineered dino because that's what ALL THE DIALOGUE IS ABOUT (as sparse and clunkily delivered as they are). The first half are just establishing panning shots of the theme park, which I liked, but they're not saying anything other than the park is functional. The only insight into what the film is about is left to the dialogue, which was poorly clipped together and didn't make a good impression.
I have quite a bit of faith in the movie because I like the director and I don't think the premise is stupid. And the point I've made plenty of times is that the trailer is not indicative of the film. But I do think that the trailer did a poor job of presenting itself.
Jurassic Park has an effective first trailer. Even if you take out the unnecessary narrator, it's very well cut. What sells it is the dialogue. This trailer goes too far IMO into laying out the whole plot of the movie, I thought they chose very smart clips of where the characters aren't just standing still, staring to a void.
The Lost World's first trailer is also effective at creating a flavor-piece, even with the awkward "Mommy's very angry" line.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
What the actual fuck kind of plot is that even trying to congeal into? Thankfully it was cancelled; that money can be put to better things.
When I was watching the new trailer I certainly didn't mistake Pratt as a random field guy, tho in that case the people who edited it are somewhat at fault, which I'll get to in a minute. But anyhow, from his aesthetic and the brief bit we saw of him in the trailer, I assumed him to be a lead, and something of a cross of Goldblum and Neil 's roles from the 1st film.
I know good narration and dialog is important to let the audience know what's going on, but they aren't the only things important. In fact, the most important I feel, is visual. Those shots of the park you don't seem too impressed by, IMHO were pretty good at establishing a manifestation of a dream that's been around since the original film. This is the park the doctor always wanted, before he realized that it may've been a mistake to want it. I wouldn't expect a dinosaur park to be small-scale and the wide open shots were necessary to communicate the girth of the park's size and how miniscule a single person looks by comparison. It's literally average people in a world of giants.
Personally I wasn't paying too much attention to the dialog, because I don't think that's where the makers were placing a lot of the thematic emphasis, so I reckon that's why I didn't see it as focusing on the engineered dino concept until near the end. More importantly, tho, and maybe where the trailer makers are at fault, is that the new trailer's extremely reference-heavy. Not just to the films, but the actors as well. You bring up Chris Pratt and that's a good point; people have expectations for the kind of role he's going to play these days. They expect him in the lead role (or co-lead) of w/e movie he's on, which is why when I saw him here I didn't think he was just some random field researcher. Not in a film like this. Moreover he's the only new addition at that star-power career level in the film (male, at least), which made putting 2+2 together easier. But tbh I only know of him from GotG, and w/o that knowledge I'd of maybe thought him as still an integral character, but not a lead. That definitely will date the trailer b/c it doesn't stand up as well on its own or w/o the relevancy of some things we take for granted right now, such as certain celeb statuses.
Good call on linking the first film's trailer too; compared to that there's no reasonable way the new one can be said it stands toe-to-toe, it's clear which of the two is better. But I don't think that means the new trailer is an abomination either, or fails on all counts. It just requires a bit more up-front from the viewer to work as it should, and that's maybe a problem.
I don't read interviews and I assume this is just Star Lord's reunion visit to Earth.
Yes.
Not that I have any beef with it but I think the point is for it to look different. They'd want to emphasize how much cooler and sophisticated this dinosaur is and I'm certain this means it'll stand out a bit. Granted it won't look wildly different but if they want casual audiences to know this dinosaur is a big deal, it'd have to be visually noticeable. I'm interested in the sound design as well, hoping they go for something that isn't a mix between all giant movie monsters of the past few years. If they attempt to just update the T-Rex roar I'll be disappointed. I want to hear something that sounds like it's coming from some kind of messed up science experiment, something that really freaks me out.
Thug Waffle
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lol did anyone catch that crappy cgi hand gesture chris pratt made when he was riding with the raptors?
That's actually a very exciting prospect I didn't think of. I really hope they don't just blend the Raptor scream with the T-Rex roar and really try to make a new distinct sound that has iconic properties.
Calcium
Banned
I think you are going to be disappointed. It'll probably sound like a combination between a T-Rex and the Velociraptors.
Ganzlinger
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Just watched it. Doesn't look great.
Would make me kinda sad, unless they can somehow create a really unique sound by doing it.
Sound design is a supremely underrated but HUGE reason why Jurassic Park worked so well. Amazing work went into creating the dinosaur sounds.
It can if it has a visionary director behind it. I rewatched Jurassic Park and it still has that magic, that feeling of awe when I watch it. The camera work, the effects, the music all come together beautifully even today. Spielberg is a freakin genius. Sure he screwed up the sequel but JP stands the test of time and is still one of the greatest movies of all time.
I would have been happier if Ang Lee directed this film instead of someone who has directed a safe romantic sci fi movie.
shinobi602
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Calcium
Banned
....no? I don't see his hands leave the handlebars.
Anton Sugar
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When is this? Just rewatched and didn't see it.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Zoos are all over the world in plenty of cities. Jurassic World is one place on earth. We practically have a zoo in every borough here in New York.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
On that note I think they've missed a massive opportunity w/ regards the feathers. The science now shows dinos were feathered.
I still have a hard time reconciling that in my head, but that's what it is. Maybe that's part of the idea of the new engineered-dino. Which wouldn't make it too exotic or "OMG crazeh!" regards the science we have now, but would come off as exotic in the Jurassic Park universe because if we're expecting the films to take place in their own time continuity, an alternate take on our own, they could introduce feathered dinos in some creative way that brings the real-world science in so it doesn't break suspension of disbelief, but in the world of these characters is something wondrous.
Or I could just be talking to be talking at this point :S
Anton Sugar
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I would have loved feathers, and it's entirely possible in the JP "universe", whatever that means. However, you'll hear "they must have manipulated their genes so they looked more like what we're expecting" as a retort to this.
Not just that. Does anyone seriously think that they would run after 10 years out of interesting, real and for humans non-deadly dinosaurs, so that they need freaking hybrids?
Deadly ones, which they couldn't control again and again is already a stretch, but that?
Well, more power to those who can buy it.
Demoncarnotaur
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I really like this shot:
And this one:
And this one:
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