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[elrechazado]

Superman was as much of a beacon as USA when they freed Iraq from Hussein.

U wot mate?

 

[J_Viper]

You seem to be ignoring the fact that he saved billions twice, performed numerous rescues, performed numerous missions for the US government, was largely looked upon as a literal savior barring protesters in DC( if DCverse is anything like the real world, some of those protestors were probably paid by Luthor), Batman, and Luthor. Like you're ignoring almost everything about how Superman is portrayed outside of Luthor's machinations and Bruce's grudge.

Along with what, Supermans biggest conflict in these movies hasn't about whether to do the right thing or not. His conflict has been "what's the right thing when someone is as powerful as he is?".

I'm on your side man, the Superman line didn't bother me a bit.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

Not having watch the Flash TV show, the trailer makes it look like his armored suit gives him his powers.

 

[PanSexual_Peacock]

Not having watch the Flash TV show, the trailer makes it look like his armored suit gives him his powers.

Even though we've seen him use his powers without it?

 

[Seductivpancakes]

Even though we've seen him use his powers without it?

Maybe I blinked but all his scenes in that trailer was him in that suit, and I haven't seen the TV show.

 

[Ashhong]

Not having watch the Flash TV show, the trailer makes it look like his armored suit gives him his powers.

Curious, how so?

Ah. Well there's that scene where he breaks the glass. It's like assuming Superman only have powers in the suit. I think most people know he's just super fast

 

[mugurumakensei]

Maybe I blinked but all his scenes in that trailer was him in that suit, and I haven't seen the TV show.

Um, the scene where he dodges the batarang while not in the suit, the scene where he breaks the glass not in the suit, so on and so on.

 

[elrechazado]

Maybe I blinked but all his scenes in that trailer was him in that suit, and I haven't seen the TV show.

In the other trailers he is out of his suit using the powers, and in this one he does so putting his finger through the glass in SLO mo. Plus there's his intro in bvs where he's shown using his powers on surveillance cameras footage.

Seems odd that you took the suit giving his powers with flash but not with say, wonder woman.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

Curious, how so?

Might just be because I've been watching too much MCU. Like even something as

Spoiler

simple as Spider-Man's costume in Homecoming, had all this tech loaded into it.

Like in the last scene when they're all in the rooftop, right before he dashes off, there's like electricity flickering around his suit.

Just an observation for this trailer.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Not having watch the Flash TV show, the trailer makes it look like his armored suit gives him his powers.

How do you explain him dodging the Batarang and the window scene in this ?

 

[elrechazado]

Might just be because I've been watching too much MCU. Like even something as

Spoiler

simple as Spider-Man's costume in Homecoming, had all this tech loaded into it.

Like in the last scene when they're all in the rooftop, right before he dashes off, there's like electricity flickering around his suit.

Just an observation for this trailer.

He flickers electricity in every scene he's ever used his powers in the trailers and in bvs.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

He flickers electricity in every scene he's ever used his powers in the trailers and in bvs.

I haven't seen the other trailers, and like I said, it's probably just me making that connection cause of previous super hero films seen recently.

 

[LionPride]

Not having watch the Flash TV show, the trailer makes it look like his armored suit gives him his powers.

Even though audiences have seen him without the suit using his powers? In the very first trailer?

 

[Ashhong]

Jesus why are you guys being do hostile? The dude is just unfamiliar with The Flash and missed the one scene in the trailer with him using his powers.

Anyway, the suit is there for protection. He creates the lightning when he runs

 

[LotusHD]

Might just be because I've been watching too much MCU. Like even something as

Spoiler

simple as Spider-Man's costume in Homecoming, had all this tech loaded into it.

Like in the last scene when they're all in the rooftop, right before he dashes off, there's like electricity flickering around his suit.

Just an observation for this trailer.

Weird observation lol

 

[elrechazado]

Jesus why are you guys being do hostile? The dude is just unfamiliar with The Flash and missed the one scene in the trailer with him using his powers.

Anyway, the suit is there for protection. He creates the lightning when he runs

What did I say in any hostile way whatsoever?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Might just be because I've been watching too much MCU. Like even something as

Spoiler

simple as Spider-Man's costume in Homecoming, had all this tech loaded into it.

Like in the last scene when they're all in the rooftop, right before he dashes off, there's like electricity flickering around his suit.

Just an observation for this trailer.

Flash(and other DC speedsters) are typically displayed with electricity

He can even throw it.

 

[The Driver]

Aquabro looks lit but I'm really trying to see this Flash do some crazy shit. I have no doubt that Snyder is gonna do some neat stuff with his powerset.

 

[Wingfan19]

High res fan made clean up of the new poster

 

[Seductivpancakes]

Weird observation lol

Yea it really is lol

Flash(and other speedsters) is always about electricity

He can even throw it.

Yea I know. Not the throwing electricity thing.

I guess the only time I've seen the flash, not in the comics, was like JLU cartoons where he didn't exhibit any pre electric discharge before running.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

High res fan made clean up of the new poster

I like it.

I wonder if there's a comped version of it waiting for release post-opening that features Clark floating above all of them

 

[BrutishMrFish]

You don't "feel" it was earned, however in regards to these films and their portrayal for the character it was consistent.

But it's not consistent if you actually look at the scenes that showed how people reacted to Superman.

In Man of Steel, the government brings Superman to a secure facility in handcuffs because they don't trust him, and the movie ends with the government trying and failing to track Superman because they still don't trust him.

After the Bat-Jesus dream, Batman v. Superman shows how Superman's actions in the last movie earned him Batman's hatred. The movie later shows that Superman is being subjected to a government hearing (because they still don't trust him), a huge crowd protesting his presence (because they don't trust him either), Batman dreaming about Superman leading an alien invasion (because Batman doesn't trust Superman), and Lex Luthor aiming to kill Superman in part because he sees Superman as a legitimate threat to humanity (again, lack of trust there). Superman even makes things worse for himself when he seemingly confirms Batman's fears by stopping Batman from fighting some criminals. Those are all scenes that drive the plot, but a montage that shows people being thankful for being rescued that ultimately never becomes relevant later on is supposed to have more of an impact? No way. You can say it is, but you'd be wrong.

It wouldn't have been hard to show that Superman made a difference to most people, either by having the people he saved in the previous scenes come back to help him in some way or by showing a montage of how his behavior inspired people to help others or something like that. It wouldn't have been hard for the movie to show that most people actually appreciated the hero, and that the people who didn't want him around were in the minority (something that Raimi's Spider-Man films were good at). Even changing the dialog in the montage where Superman saved people to be purely positive would have made a difference there, but as it is he's portrayed as highly polarizing at best. A halfway decent movie would have been able to convincingly sell Superman as a beloved hero, but MoS and BvS don't pull it off.

 

[Wingfan19]

I like it.

I wonder if there's a comped version of it waiting for release post-opening that features Clark floating above all of them

That's what my guess is. I think most (if not all) of these promo things where Superman is absent have been made in a way that they can put him back in after the movie comes out. Cause I would buy a full on poster of this with all 6 of them in the shot.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Yea it really is lol



Yea I know. Not the throwing electricity thing.

I guess the only time I've seen the flash, not in the comics, was like JLU cartoons where he didn't exhibit any pre electric discharge before running.

I do think they turned it up for Justice League to make it significantly visually different to both versions of Quicksilver
as typically at lower speeds there isn't a lot of it.
Good example from the animated series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIn9IaUUeco

 

[elrechazado]

But it's not consistent if you actually look at the scenes that showed how people reacted to Superman.

In Man of Steel, the government brings Superman to a secure facility in handcuffs because they don't trust him, and the movie ends with the government trying and failing to track Superman because they still don't trust him.

Surely you understand the difference between the government military and intelligence apparatus attempting to track superman, and how the general public of the world would view him after he literally saved the entire human population from an extinction level event?

Seems like you want some kind of Raimi cornball new Yorkers throwing trash at the villain scene. No thanks.

 

[Falchion]

I like that they've made it more funny without seemingly having lost it's overall tone like Suicide Squad did. Hope DC can finish the year 2 for 2.

 

[thehypocrite]

But it's not consistent if you actually look at the scenes that showed how people reacted to Superman.

In Man of Steel, the government brings Superman to a secure facility in handcuffs because they don't trust him, and the movie ends with the government trying and failing to track Superman because they still don't trust him.

After the Bat-Jesus dream, Batman v. Superman shows how Superman's actions in the last movie earned him Batman's hatred. The movie later shows that Superman is being subjected to a government hearing (because they still don't trust him), a huge crowd protesting his presence (because they don't trust him either), Batman dreaming about Superman leading an alien invasion (because Batman doesn't trust Superman), and Lex Luthor aiming to kill Superman in part because he sees Superman as a legitimate threat to humanity (again, lack of trust there). Superman even makes things worse for himself when he seemingly confirms Batman's fears by stopping Batman from fighting some criminals. Those are all scenes that drive the plot, but a montage that shows people being thankful for being rescued that ultimately never becomes relevant later on is supposed to have more of an impact? No way. You can say it is, but you'd be wrong.

It wouldn't have been hard to show that Superman made a difference to most people, either by having the people he saved in the previous scenes come back to help him in some way or by showing a montage of how his behavior inspired people to help others or something like that. It wouldn't have been hard for the movie to show that most people actually appreciated the hero, and that the people who didn't want him around were in the minority (something that Raimi's Spider-Man films were good at). Even changing the dialog in the montage where Superman saved people to be purely positive would have made a difference there, but as it is he's portrayed as highly polarizing at best. A halfway decent movie would have been able to convincingly sell Superman as a beloved hero, but MoS and BvS don't pull it off.

I think you need to watch those films again. Cause those scenes were there.

 

[Dead]

I think you need to watch those films again. Cause those scenes were there.

One of the best scenes was the little kids seeing the TV and watching people, manipulated by the media's fear mongering, burning the effigy of Superman, like they couldn't understand why this was happening as to them, obviously Superman is a hero.

Superman is a hero, and is revered as such, but the movie is about Lex doing his best to drag Supermans name through the mud and change public perception of him, and how Superman overcomes this, retaining and regaining his status as a savior. Its such a clear narrative arc (in the ultimate cut obviously).

 

[vasametropolis]

Guys I was 99% sure the last scene was Superman because of the red, but the sound effect is really deliberate and the reflection is making me stop and think that it IS a lantern? Maybe it's Superman and someone else?

The drink glass ripples twice and you hear two landings.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Aquabro looks lit but I'm really trying to see this Flash do some crazy shit. I have no doubt that Snyder is gonna do some neat stuff with his powerset.

Yeah I want to see just how crazy they get with Barry Allen. Obviously we are going to get alot of slow motion shit similar to Fox Quicksilver, but The Flash has a more diverse moveset and his powers are way crazier!

I'm actually curious as to what Barry was doing when he put his finger on that glass. It was only a push from one finger and he shattered the whole thing.

Phasing, flying, tornado arms, lighting throw, running on water, etc. Can't wait!

 

[Wingfan19]

Guys I was 99% sure the last scene was Superman because of the red, but the sound effect is really deliberate and the reflection is making me stop and think that it IS a lantern?

Please... just... stop. I'm begging you, haha. It's not Green Lantern!!! The reflections in Alfred's glasses are from the lights from the house (he's outside in the driveway fixing the car in that scene). The sound you hear is what it sounds like when Superman takes off/lands.

I posted this last night... I blew out the saturation on the shot

 

[vasametropolis]

Please... just... stop. I'm begging you, haha. It's not Green Lantern!!! The reflections in Alfred's glasses are from the lights from the house (he's outside in the driveway fixing the car in that scene). The sound you hear is what it sounds like when Superman takes off/lands.

I posted this last night... I blew out the saturation on the shot

Two ripples and two landings though?? Unless one is a sound barrier thing.

 

[Wingfan19]

Two ripples and two landings though??

I just re-listened to it and I can't tell if that's part of the score/music or sound FX in the actual scene. I take back what I said about his flying/landing sound, it's clearly not that. It almost sounds mechanical or alien techy... could actually be a small Boom Tube/portal that he steps out from.

EDIT - Also, the reflection in his glasses aren't just the lights from the house, it's from the car engine and the moon. You can see that the moon is clearly out and facing Alfred, which would reflect off the car parts. You can see it better in his right (our left) eye lens. There's streaks of metal from the old engine block/pipes.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Two ripples and two landings though?? Unless one is a sound barrier thing.

Supes could have brought somebody with him. Maybe Kara or J'onnz?

 

[Schnozberry]

Yeah I want to see just how crazy they get with Barry Allen. Obviously we are going to get alot of slow motion shit similar to Fox Quicksilver, but The Flash has a more diverse moveset and his powers are way crazier!

I'm actually curious as to what Barry was doing when he put his finger on that glass. It was only a push from one finger and he shattered the whole thing.

Phasing, flying, tornado arms, lighting throw, running on water, etc. Can't wait!

Barry seems young and inexperienced, so I'm guessing he's going to be figuring out new shit he can do throughout the film.

 

[MrS]

Superman was as much of a beacon as USA when they freed Iraq from Hussein.

Insane posts like this are why I love NeoGAF.

 

[vasametropolis]

I just re-listened to it and I can't tell if that's part of the score/music or sound FX in the actual scene. I take back what I said about his flying/landing sound, it's clearly not that. It almost sounds mechanical or alien techy... could actually be a small Boom Tube/portal that he steps out from.

There probably isn't a lantern... I didn't even have my hopes up but that scene plays out a little fishy at the end and I got a little excited lol.

 

[thehypocrite]

One of the best scenes was the little kids seeing the TV and watching people, manipulated by the media's fear mongering, burning the effigy of Superman, like they couldn't understand why this was happening as to them, obviously Superman is a hero.

Superman is a hero, and is revered as such, but the movie is about Lex doing his best to drag Supermans name through the mud and change public perception of him, and how Superman overcomes this, retaining and regaining his status as a savior. Its such a clear narrative arc (in the ultimate cut obviously).

Indeed. People are looking at Lex machinations and extrapolating that everyone thought the same as those he played. That isn't the reality in the films. In BvS, even when O'Keefe is defacing the monument we can see all the people that were there to celebrate Supes for his heroism, this makes the actions of O'Keefe even more shocking. It's quite clear people in general looked up to him and cherished his presence.

 

[elrechazado]

Guys I was 99% sure the last scene was Superman because of the red, but the sound effect is really deliberate and the reflection is making me stop and think that it IS a lantern? Maybe it's Superman and someone else?

The drink glass ripples twice and you hear two landings.

I think it's the multiple sonic booms we always hear with supes in the other movies.

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Barry seems young and inexperienced, so I'm guessing he's going to be figuring out new shit he can do throughout the film.

Yup. He's already said he just blitz his enemies. The dude doesn't really understand his powerset yet. I'm going to hazard a guess that Batman will be helping Barry control and harness his Speed Force abilities unless we get a special appearance by their version of Wells. Prepare thy anus for a montage, possibly many montages!

He thinks he just moves fast lol. Oh boy..... DCEU Flash you are in for a treat!

 

[Rooster12]

Yea it really is lol

Yea I know. Not the throwing electricity thing.

I guess the only time I've seen the flash, not in the comics, was like JLU cartoons where he didn't exhibit any pre electric discharge before running.

Ugh...that show was offensively bad at displaying Flash's powers.

 

[luxarific]

I like how the entire first half of the trailer is basically positioning the film as a Wonder Woman sequel.

I'd be totally ok with that. Unfortunately film will not be a WW sequel. I'll still be watching it for the Amazons, though.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Barry seems young and inexperienced, so I'm guessing he's going to be figuring out new shit he can do throughout the film.

I hope they make him and his power set as broken as they are in the comics, and paced by his inexperience leading to some "holy shit, THAT's THE FLASH!" moments in the climax.

 

[a916]

Supes could have brought somebody with him. Maybe Kara or J'onnz?

Holy crap, it's Jordan and Stewart!!

 

[a916]

High res fan made clean up of the new poster

Whoever did this deserves accolades, this is amazing.

Clay Enos did this right, took that photo?

 

[BLOODED_hands]

Holy crap, it's Jordan and Stewart!!

Now that would be awesome lol.

 

[Schnozberry]

Yup. He's already said he just blitz his enemies. The dude doesn't really understand his powerset yet. I'm going to hazard a guess that Batman will be helping Barry control and harness his Speed Force abilities unless we get a special appearance by their version of Wells. Prepare thy anus for a montage, possibly many montages!

He thinks he just moves fast lol. Oh boy..... DCEU Flash you are in for a treat!

I like the idea of Batman being a mentor to Barry, but I don't know what he would do to help him with his powers.

I hope they make him and his power set as broken as they are in the comics, and paced by his inexperience leading to some "holy shit, THAT's THE FLASH!" moments in the climax.

As long as he isn't mopey and stupid like he is in the TV Show, I'm up for whatever. Flash is supposed to be a bit more fun and light hearted than some of the other characters. I'm cautiously optimistic of what we've seen so far.

 

[itwasTuesday]

boom tube hit, then someone landed. There, solved. 2 thuds, 2 ripples.

 

[Schnozberry]

Holy crap, it's Jordan and Stewart!!

My guess is that we see Abin Sur crash land to Earth after the conflict is already resolved, setting the stage for a future Lantern film and the second Justice League when Darkseid shows up. That film will involve the entire Lantern Corps, if Flashpoint doesn't make major changes to the timeline.

 

[Wingfan19]

boom tube hit, then someone landed. There, solved. 2 thuds, 2 ripples.

I clipped the audio so everyone can listen to it over and over haha

https://youtu.be/E79JK-q6Eyw