Or they can sell it at a loss like they always did with their consoles.
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Kaz: PSVR will have over 100 titles
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Or they can sell it at a loss like they always did with their consoles.
Massive bomba if true.
UnrealEck
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By the time PSVR hits the markey, Rift will probably be cheaper.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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A floaty transparent like touch screen interface of the PS4 menu screen would be so cool to navigate threw.
Acquiescence
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Of course it's true, it's not like Sony are going to allow adult content on PlayStation anytime soon.
MarkMclovin
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Will buy at half price in 2 years time after is sells like shit.
JetSetRadio
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Will grab one for Ace Combat and GT sports but I can't see either of them being released this year.
LiveFromKyoto
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Would buy day 1.
Wouldn't an update to their media player do the trick? Let the people get the files themselves and just support any VR file.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Nah. I would argue it is a bigger leap.
1 to 1 hand movement is already here. Also, limited to first person? You know one of the launch titles that comes bundled with OR is a third person platformer right?
You'd need a separate capture card though. The undistorted video comes out of the breakout box so it can't be captured directly by the Ps4 for streaming
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Sony won't do that. Companies sell hardware at a loss when they are sure they will recoup the loss in licensing software fees or other ancillary revenues tied to the platform. PSVR will be marketed as a platform by itself but always associated to the PS4. So It will always have a smaller user base. That smaller user base won't be enough to bring enough revenue to recover that loss. And the more they sell, the harder it will be to achieve this. Those ancillary revenue sources are for PS4 (PS Plus fees, PS Now) if Sony creates another one of those specifically to the PSVR it will scare off consumers. Buying a PS4, subscribe for PS Plus, buy PSVR, Move controllers and PS Camera and then on top of that another extra fee for PSVR software would kill the platform from the start.
Yautja_Warrior
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Unlikely with Rift shipping in March / April and PS-VR is supposed to ship early 2016 too (unless it gets delayed) so the RIft is not going to drop that much, if at all, for quite some time.
? It's coming out this year, first half if i'm not mistaken.
Oculus can't even evade orders fast enough, as they're already starting to ship preorders in June now.
Why would they lower the price in 2016, if they can't even ship the ones people are buying at this price?
Yautja_Warrior
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Now that would be a great VR game, I'd be down for that.
That's likely a rehash of the it will be priced like a new platform quote. Sony haven't said anything since then about the price iirc.
PSVR or Oculus (but that one is out of the loop now), i'll be so fucking happy to have real finished product to play with, versus the years of crappy buggy demo i tried on Oculus DK2!
That said i think the big soft difference between the two will be that maybe Oculus + expensive PC will allow VR versions of really demanding games. People don't really realize yet they won't be a lot playing the Witcher 3 with intended graphics in VR (and if there is an official mod at some point..).
So i'm happy Sony has really dedicated games that looks good and run perfectly on their hardware. That's the way to go. I didn't like how Oculus had this insane spec needs as an official thing.. When we know the best vr experience won't specially be the ones with cutting edge graphics.
That said i think the big soft difference between the two will be that maybe Oculus + expensive PC will allow VR versions of really demanding games. People don't really realize yet they won't be a lot playing the Witcher 3 with intended graphics in VR (and if there is an official mod at some point..).
So i'm happy Sony has really dedicated games that looks good and run perfectly on their hardware. That's the way to go. I didn't like how Oculus had this insane spec needs as an official thing.. When we know the best vr experience won't specially be the ones with cutting edge graphics.
biglittleps
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They can provide a bundle without Camera (already many have them like around 1-2 million) and Move controllers are not the standard controller in VR for PS4 because DS4 is the VR controller.
Portugeezer
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I just wonder how many of those will be high quality and keep me coming back. Right now I can think of only a handful.
Sony, unlike Oculus, will continue to make money from games beyond their initial PS VR headset sales, so they can price it lower. The technology in the PS VR hardware itself is also cheaper than the Oculus so there is no reason to expect Oculus prices.
Move controller is not a requirement for PS VR. Although yes, some games will be Move specific.
Only the camera is required, and whenever they announce the PS VR date/price I will buy a camera in advance.
Sony, unlike Oculus, will continue to make money from games beyond their initial PS VR headset sales, so they can price it lower. The technology in the PS VR hardware itself is also cheaper than the Oculus so there is no reason to expect Oculus prices.
Move controller is not a requirement for PS VR. Although yes, some games will be Move specific.
Only the camera is required, and whenever they announce the PS VR date/price I will buy a camera in advance.
You stole Sculli's avatar or are you his alt account?
How is that 3rd person platformer a paradigm shift in gameplay?
VR brings more immersion, that's it, only the 1 to 1 stuff could be a paradigm shift but it's more related to motion controls than VR.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Likely but we have no idea if that is the case for now.
I have well over 100 games on my Xbox One. Pretty sure the PS4 has more.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
True. During the PS VR developers seminar, the Sony representative warned us that fully investing into the full blown Sony VR is a huge risk, and that we are suggested to make a game that be played on tv too.
Apparently the developers will be able to make game that you can switch between tv or VR mode, if they choose to do so.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Didn't say that specific launch title would be.
No, not just immersion. There are tons of gameplay opportunities that VR will present. And 1:1 hand is not " just Motion controls".
VR is more than the sum of its parts. Going from looking at a 2D box in your living room, to the feeling of "presence" or actually being transported to another world, are two wholly different experiences.
So, those who already have camera and moves will be forced to buy them again? 99.99% not gonna happen. There will be multiple SKUs.
It is the same camera. Dr. Richard Marks confirmed they made it from the start to be used for VR, only they were not able to say so in the open before Project Morpheus was announced. Same as DS4, they put that LED there for a good reason.
Move controllers will also be unchanged, so install base of PSVR accessories is already established quite well.That will work. Some PSVR software needs the Move controller though.
They already confirmed that PSVR will be sold at a loss though, and for good reason. Do you really think making money from hardware is a priority in any way? Hardware profits are negligible and completely useless, GT Sports alone will probably be more profitable, their goal is for PSVR to reach as many people as possible and making them buy software, that's where the real money is.
Selling it at a profit means obscenely high price for the mass market, which leads to a small marketshare, which leads to less licensing money, in the end even Bloodborne ends up making them more money.
PodcastFips
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ouya
Lol, I totally forgot this thing even exists.
What that is not doable on a normal screen? Nothing.
Again you only mention "presence" and immersion. Nothing gameplay related.
Simulating a walk on an alien planet is very cool, but it's mostly a visual experience, a bit like Avatar.
Same here. PSVR will save me so much over what I once planned to spend on a triple screen set up.
It doesn't say if they are dedicated PSVR titles or regular titles with the VR feature tacked on as an addition (which could be bad for performance if VR is an afterthought and not a core feature in the development cycle). These could be indie games or other games that won't necessarily benefit from VR in a first person perspective - such as sidescrollers, etc. For example, see this Wired article about what Tekken's VR is. It doesn't seem to be part of the main gameplay.
I don't know if you guys have visited the PSN store lately, but there's a ton of less than stellar third party games on there. Also, the Playstation Move has ~140 titles and as an owner of two of them, I find the vast majority of them aren't worth playing because of poor implementation as standalone peripherals.
for sony to win, they can:
350 to 400 price tag, but anything up to 500 is acceptable.
Creating bundles with and without move controlers to get 2 or 3 sifferent skus with 350 the lowest and 500 the most expensive would be great too
Every PSVR coming with one casual game or compilation of demos to demo the tech and one game more intense, that part OF got right in the announcement.
Create a PSVR bundle PS4 for 650 dollars
Market this in retailers around the world, using demo stations, and focus the message as plug and play.
350 to 400 price tag, but anything up to 500 is acceptable.
Creating bundles with and without move controlers to get 2 or 3 sifferent skus with 350 the lowest and 500 the most expensive would be great too
Every PSVR coming with one casual game or compilation of demos to demo the tech and one game more intense, that part OF got right in the announcement.
Create a PSVR bundle PS4 for 650 dollars
Market this in retailers around the world, using demo stations, and focus the message as plug and play.
No. VR enables many different gameplay options.
I think it is a foregone conclusion that Playroom VR demos will be given away for free to everyone [120fps controller dance party with robots, diorama scene, ghost hunting, the Deep, sliding down the road, couch coop VR games [monster escape, cat vs mouses]]. Those are all good demos to get people used to VR.
Move users will most likely get that medieval knight training demo. I don't know about London Heist, maybe they are making a full game out of it.
Movalpolos
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NeloAnjelo
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BigTnaples
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What you are saying is patently false. You would be right if you were talking about Sony's old HMD headset which was basically a TV close to your face.
But the way you are posting makes is seem like you have a basic misunderstanding of VR.
Movalpolos
Banned
In the next 6 months?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
That's probably the only strategy they can go for, since the playstation is a closed platform.
Crimson_Gold
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Jeff Rigby redeemed!!!
valkillmore
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Smart for Kaz to come out and talk titles while everybody is talking Oculus price.
They've been given the perfect setup. Just gotta take advantage.
They've been given the perfect setup. Just gotta take advantage.