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Ken Kutaragi defends PS3's price
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
No just no
Chittagong
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TheKingsCrown
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Can I play with Ken's toy?
Answer: No. I'm not rich enough.
Answer: No. I'm not rich enough.
Viewtiful Darkness
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bumpkin said:
Ken is a great man. He has giving us a lot of classic quotes such as:
"PS3 is not a game machine, we have never once called it a game machine"
I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architects blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. Its the same as that. - I believe he said this when he was talking about the square button problem people reported on PSP.
And now his most recent quote from that article I posted is another classic quote
Aft Dread Pressure
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Wouldn't it be better if he didn't say anything ?
DarknessTear
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PhatSaqs said:Hey Ken...
Are you trying to make me racist?
Keyser Soze
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It's only a PS3 Ken!!
typhonsentra
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Was there any answer he could give that would satisfy you people? I also find the double-standard on arrogance amusing, why does this Kutaragi guy receive all this hate?
HocusPocus
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Poor Ken 
. When they actually make the system affordable for the masses (sub $300 range) the competition will be in that sweet $100 to $200 range.
. When they actually make the system affordable for the masses (sub $300 range) the competition will be in that sweet $100 to $200 range.CompositeMolar
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typhonsentra said:
599$
He added, "If you consider the PlayStation3 a toy, then yes, it is an expensive toy. However, it is more than a toy. It is a Workstation. And it is the only WorkStation3. It's also a BluerayStation. And it is the only BluerayStation3. We never said it could play games. Playing games is last-gen. Working is believing. This gen is all about working and tilting. I hope that those who understand this will gladly purchase it."
He does have a good point.
Who the hell would balk paying $600 for a PC that has a bluray rom, support for the latest and best looking games?
Even if that PC only ran linux, I think most of us would consider that a pretty good deal.
But most of you bastards will continue to think of it as a console and call it dead at that price.
Hey guess what, the PS3 is dead as a console. But it's become something else entirely... whether or not you end up buying it will probably depend on whether or not you grasp that notion.
Who the hell would balk paying $600 for a PC that has a bluray rom, support for the latest and best looking games?
Even if that PC only ran linux, I think most of us would consider that a pretty good deal.
But most of you bastards will continue to think of it as a console and call it dead at that price.
Hey guess what, the PS3 is dead as a console. But it's become something else entirely... whether or not you end up buying it will probably depend on whether or not you grasp that notion.
Viewtiful Darkness
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typhonsentra said:
Ken Kutaragi is a very arrogant man. When he responded to the square button problem on PSP people in Japan reported, he didn't bother to apologize for it or even say he would fix it. He said:
"I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architects blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. Its the same as that.
That was a slap in the face to innocent consumers who purchased a PSP that had the square button problem. And his arrogance is exactly the reason he is hated.
DarknessTear
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Geoff9920 said:
And will you be able to get a blue ray player for less than $1400? Plus I honestly doubt you can get a PC with all new parts with these specs (even built) for $600, nor will you get the game selection that the PS3 will have.
Geoff9920 said:
Define a console.
Then define a computer.
Then state all the functionalities of the PS3.
Then compare it to the console definition, then to the computer definition.
Which one is closer?
BTW, Apple is alright, if you don't play games. But the computers I like also plays games (well).
Didn't he already do this after E3 along with that Kaz guy?
Last time I checked, there were two PlayStation3's Kenny Ken Ken...
I believe that you'll fall for anything, as long as it's said by the right people... really I do...
I've read many of your posts, and you've been trying your damnest to make everything they say "right"...
Last time I checked, there were two PlayStation3's Kenny Ken Ken...
Zaptruder said:
I believe that you'll fall for anything, as long as it's said by the right people... really I do...
I've read many of your posts, and you've been trying your damnest to make everything they say "right"...
Red Blaster
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Well he DID say it was gonna be expensive all those months back...
firefoxsux
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PS3 is overpriced console or a cheap BR player but is not both.
I seen nothing, no games or Cell features, to allow Kenny's arrogance. It is the time our man to stop the talk and start the walk.
6 months count down startoooooo!
I seen nothing, no games or Cell features, to allow Kenny's arrogance. It is the time our man to stop the talk and start the walk.
6 months count down startoooooo!
Moneyhats2k5
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Viewtiful Darkness said:
What Ken is saying is all just rhetoric for the media, so they have something to talk about. Basically reverse damage control. Sony will often say something like "Why would we do a price drop" (to the PS2), like at GDC, and then a few months later drop it to $129. Throwing off the competition. Notice that Nintendo stays at their $99 bundle, and Xbox1 stays at 179+forza.
In the end, Sony fixed the Square button issue for those early PSP's fairly quickly. It's what they do, and not what they say that counts. People will blow things out of proportion for Sony PR statements. They know exactly what they want to accomplish from these press releases, and it's to stir up emotion from the internet and the insider crowd. In fact, the amount of rabid response in this short time validates what they are trying to do. And it's 6AM in the morning here.. :lol
But that's basically what he did say though.Voidla said:
There were two different criticisms made about the PSP buttons at launch, one was a problem with the injection mold process which Sony acknowledged and fixed and one was the observation that the square button partially overlapped the LCD panel baseplate. This was by design and what Ken was responding to with that comment.Viewtiful Darkness said:
Geoff9920 said:
With Linux, it's definetly a possibility.
an improbability, because I'll be buying the PS3 as an integrated entertainment platform. Kinda like the idea of a Media Center PC, with an expensive graphics card and CPU, to play the latest and best PC games.
I'll also be surfing the net from it and checking email. Maybe using instant messengers too. All stuff I'd traditionally thought of as computer functions.
Skilloton said:
Thanks. It's nice to know that when people can't actually debate the points of the argument, they'll go with ad hominen attacks to mask their own incompetence.
MrPing1000 said:
Much better quality on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ir2Pyez9Ok&search=E3 kaz
Zaptruder said:
Your welcome and all, but there is nothing to debate - the man is arrogance personified, and you just eat it up and swallow every word... come on...
Zaptruder said:
Does this 600 dollar wonder PC come with a monitor, mouse, keyboard and a wealth of readily available free software? How about the ability to send emails to anywhere in the world? What about the ability to play any form of video?
So, we have a machine that 's not quite a PC ... not quite a toy. Sure it has a bunch of potential, but potential that won't be seen until maybe 2008. The average consumer isn't going to plop down 600 dollars on "potential".
Illuminati
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That they want to buy a Ferrari at the price of a Ford Festiva.Voidla said:
typhonsentra
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Skilotonn said:
:lol
Fall for what? Please explain what we're being tricked by here.
Skilotonn said:
He pretty obviously is referring to the platform. If you want a PS3, there is no comprehensive substitute.
His comments are actually in agreement with most of the moaners. If you view PS3 only as a games console, or furthermore ignore the benefits it brings only as a games console beyond the competition - which most people seem to be doing, in favour of writing off the premium as only relating to non-gaming funcitonality - then yes, it is expensive. If however, you view the machine as it is, you quickly realise why they couldn't price it at the same level of 360. With any eye on the concept of value at all, the notion is ludicrous, and always seemed that way to me - knowing everything PS3 was going to offer, and expecting PS3 to be $399 was something I argued against for quite a long time. They went one proper step up at $499.
And I would kind of agree that some people seemed to be exhibiting a spoiled nature, given how some of the debate over the prices and the different packs have been characterised. On the one hand you have people saying they only want a games machine, but on the other, many seem to totally dismiss the $499 pack. It's kind of revealing - "having your cake and eating it" springs to mind.
ToxicAdam said:
It will come with Linux, and whatever people have managed to get compiled for it.
It will come with a web browser, and by extension whatever applications that can be run through the web (including instant messengers, email and word processors).
But can you build me a (modern) gaming media center PC, without keyboard, mouse, monitor for under $600?
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Geoff9920 said:
Can I download porn with it?
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