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Kingdom Hearts Community Thread: Now everybody can be a Keyblade Wielder!
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oreomunsta
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True but he does have this
Kylo Ren only held one laser in place
And he shoots lightning at you in KH1 Final Mix
And he throws buildings at you in KH 2
UNILMITED POOOOOWAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!
I definately agree with Frank that the Death Star in episode IV would probably be the optimal Star Wars world for the game, just feels like it'd fit really well.
Then again though, that Daybreak Town story update felt like we were really really skimming it close to the end in terms of mainstory, so perhaps they'll only do one or two Daybreak Town story updates and make the rest finishing up the rest of the disney worlds.
And they've been pretty consistent the past few months with monthly story content, so i'm not too worried on that front. But yeah I guess it probably wont end until September upon rethinking it.
But yeah going by how Tron was supposed to be in DDD I don't think world choices are based on the most recent ones, as much as what the teams want to do and think fits in well with the game and Disney allows them that creative freedom.
If they do go that route i'd love it if they actually made it playable in-game in some form with everyone fighting eachother,
similar to how some MMO's have done when they end of their service/run.
Though my ideal world would be The Clone Wars show and fighting along Asoka, Anakin and Obi-Wan but that'll never happen. Rebels would probably be a bit of a better fit if they went that route anyway.
I wonder if they would skip it due to time constraints. They only mentioned Agrabahs story finishing and the storys conclusion in the blogpost, but I suppose that would leave a bit of a plothole if it winds up in Unchained but not Chi.
Then again though, that Daybreak Town story update felt like we were really really skimming it close to the end in terms of mainstory, so perhaps they'll only do one or two Daybreak Town story updates and make the rest finishing up the rest of the disney worlds.
And they've been pretty consistent the past few months with monthly story content, so i'm not too worried on that front. But yeah I guess it probably wont end until September upon rethinking it.
I'm still extremely happy that they gave Sora a chance to be in Legacy this time around. The Sora/Rinzler dynamic and Sora trying to get through to him was way more enjoyable to me than how it worked out in Legacy personally. (plus I prefered how the Legacy world looked over Space Paranoids) Probably one of my favorite worlds on DDD.
But yeah going by how Tron was supposed to be in DDD I don't think world choices are based on the most recent ones, as much as what the teams want to do and think fits in well with the game and Disney allows them that creative freedom.
That's basically how it's looking.
If they do go that route i'd love it if they actually made it playable in-game in some form with everyone fighting eachother,
Especially with it seeming like the player in Chi is most likely gonna stay behind to see it through to the end rather than carryover into the 'outside world'
Are they on par with [chi] now, or is that still the farthest in terms of story content?
Interesting. I'm happy they ended up cutting Space Paranoids (despite loving it in KHII) since I really enjoyed both character in The Grid. Now if only they could have cut Monstro and had Riku visit Pleasure Island too (with Honest John as the boss).
Sora and Riku were going to go to Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 respectively as well. It would have been interesting. Just reading back on cut content and ideas have been pretty cool. I want to see the King skyscraper boss realized in some way in this series. It looks so ridiculous, I love it. Also I would like to see more Nobody bosses in the series like Twilight Thorn. I've felt disappointed in that regard as I've found Twilight Thorn to be very interesting in his design and movements. Organization XIII is cool and all but more boss monsters would be great.
I agree. While Grim Reaper and Groundshaker are fun, I would have preferred to see nobodies in their place. I like Storm Rider though as I like to think that the dragon from the final boss is it's nobody.
Fantasia 2000 would have been cool. I wonder if we'll see it (and the untitled Jungle Book world) in a future game like with Pranksters Paradise in 3D and Pride Lands in II.
Not sure how far into Beasts Castle they are (but that was covered fairly quickly in Chi) but when beasts castle ends there's about 2 daybreak town story updates before it is up to Chi so they're cutting it pretty close.
With that said though i'm not sure how frequent Unchained updates/how many missions it updates with usually having not followed the Japanese version since launch and only recently getting into it again, but it seems to be on mission 475 at the moment going by the Chi X Wiki.
I feel like we might see it but in a different form if it happens and they'll go for the liveaction Junglebook because that would fit in more with KH's artstyle now. Yeah, there always seems to be a world that turnsup later that they wanted to/were going to use in earlier games. Another world we have that has history is a Toy Story one, Pizza Planet (at least I think it was pizza planet) was included on the list of world drawing concepts and then we have Buzz and Woody being unfinished summons on Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix.
Now that we have unchained, have your feelings on KH multiplayer changed? To be more specific, imagine the game is set up like a cross between Monster Hunter and Unchained: mission based structure but with a co-op component to it. You still have custom characters, avatar boards with nodes, lux, etc. The combat shifts to more like BBS or 3D. You still pick up abilities at random. You still level keyblades and abilities. Raid bosses are still triggered by defeating a certain number of heartless. Only real differences is that you are using realtime action combat and that you can go on missions with other players. Yay or nay?
My raid bosses are level 40. I *can not* beat them on my own. Hell, we have to plan when I pull bosses now because of how hard they are.
They are starting to get annoyingly difficult to off in one try. Though you don't really seem to lose anything if you lose, and the first fight is (AP) free. Do as much damage as you can before you get wiped, and then wait for someone else to finish it off. You'll still be awarded XP and medals if you did well enough. I imagine you'd be forced to wait the 7-8 minutes for it to go away if you're not in a party, though... or just stomache the AP loss and fight it again. If you level up afterwards, you'll get your AP back.
Pretty much. I go for the stun to buy me time and do as much damage as possible before I die. AP isn't much of an issue for me.
Yay. I'd definitely give that a shot.
BBS & Days already did mission based multiplayer in KH (and both did it better than Unchained), not sure why Unchained would change any opinions.
And as of mission 127, there's nothing I'd want any future KH to copy from Unchained, except maybe switchable outfits & maybe some kind of version of Daily/Weekly (Olympus Coliseum) challenges, though nothing that is so absolutely integral to stuff like crafting/leveling systems as it is in Unchained, more for just additional challenges for enthusiasts to test their skills in (i.e. extra hard form of bosses with specific goals like "don't use Cure").
(Spoilers from the Unchained Chi thread, in regards to the Daybreak Town missions 50ish-60ish and possible overall spoilers from the game.)
This same point was brought up for Hercules as well, and it got me thinking about DDD:
This same point was brought up for Hercules as well, and it got me thinking about DDD:
are the Mickeys we see in the DDD Sleeping Worlds actually different Mickeys? (And by extension, other repeating Disney characters.) Like, once the worlds were awoken, there would be three Mickeys running around? I always thought that they were the same as King Mickey; once the world fell into darkness, it dreamed of the last day or so that occurred, leading to the copies of Mickey we see.
I could be completely wrong, though; I only played DDD the once, it's been a while, and the tangle of a story made things a bit difficult to follow, especially at the end.
I could be completely wrong, though; I only played DDD the once, it's been a while, and the tangle of a story made things a bit difficult to follow, especially at the end.
That's how I understood it as well. They aren't different Mickeys, just (past) versions of him kind of frozen in time in the realm of sleep. Though I'm sure if Nomura wanted he could invent some BS reason how they could transfer all those sleep versions into the "real" world. 
LegendofLex
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That's how I understood it as well. They aren't different Mickeys, just (past) versions of him kind of frozen in time in the realm of sleep. Though I'm sure if Nomura wanted he could invent some BS reason how they could transfer all those sleep versions into the "real" world.
Isn't this basically what's happening with the villains in 3D?
So the foretellers are named Invi, Gula, Ira, Aced, and Ava. Those correspond to the seven deadly sins:
Problem is, that neither of those line up with the goat head on Xehanort's keyblade. Lust is "the scorpion with the tail of stinging lechery" and Pride is a lion. I'm inclined to think that since "The lion of pride has very many cubs" that the Master of Masters is the lion. And though it doesn't correspond to Ancrene Wisse, in other stories the goat *is* associated with lust. So maybe the Sixth/The Unknown is Libi. I can't get a good name out of Superbia though.
- the Latin word "invidia", or Envy, which is symbolized by a snake in the Ancrene Wisse,
- the Latin word "ira", or Wrath, which is symbolized by a unicorn in the Ancrene Wisse,
- the Latin word "acedia", or Sloth, which is symbolized by a bear in the Ancrene Wisse,
- the Latin word "avaritia", or Greed, which is symbolized by a fox in the Ancrene Wisse, and
- the Latin word "gula", or Gluttony.
Problem is, that neither of those line up with the goat head on Xehanort's keyblade. Lust is "the scorpion with the tail of stinging lechery" and Pride is a lion. I'm inclined to think that since "The lion of pride has very many cubs" that the Master of Masters is the lion. And though it doesn't correspond to Ancrene Wisse, in other stories the goat *is* associated with lust. So maybe the Sixth/The Unknown is Libi. I can't get a good name out of Superbia though.
Of course they do. Fucking Nomura, lol.
I wouldn't call Aced or Gula "good names". Just do what they do and go 'fuck it, whatever'.
So, Perbi?
Perbs... Perbinski... the Perbinator... Perbvert...
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Erbia
I'm enjoying Unchained x so fucking much but I wish the story didn't take so long to develop. In what mission does Skuld first appear?
I'm enjoying Unchained x so fucking much but I wish the story didn't take so long to develop. In what mission does Skuld first appear?
Napalm_Frank
Member
Honestly I'm getting a little sick of this seven deadly sins trope in fiction.
Invi is totally the traitor. Anguis isn't even a snake, it's a lizard.
Not in by mission 500, but the Moogle of Glory is.
Napalm_Frank
Member
FINALLYYYYYY did it
Birth By Sleep was one of the worst platinums I've ever pursued. What a slog. I'm so happy I'm finished.until 2.8
No Knack plat? Step it up son.
I might actually try and beat that game if Sony ever decides to put it on PS Plus haha
FINALLYYYYYY did it
Birth By Sleep was one of the worst platinums I've ever pursued. What a slog. I'm so happy I'm finished.until 2.8
Wow, congrats! Which of those was the easiest for you?
Either 1 or 2. Each of them took around the same amount of time to platinum but those two main titles seemed less tedious looking back. My favorite game is 1 though so I had the most fun with that.
Do you mean Xehanort's different incarnations?
They are about an update or two behind (even with all the stuff they skipped).
Like what? chi-exlusive holiday events from previous years?
2nd anniversary and the second crystals of light, and a few other things. Dark corridors is in though.
I can't get over how quickly it caught up to Chi in updates.
Congrats on joining the club!
of people gone mad from platinuming them all
That's because Unchained is all critical path and doesn't really do non story events, like the summer festival or easter egg hunts. That plus the fact that they are putting out much more content at once than [chi] ever did on top of the fact that there's no Fuck you and your keyblade, literally impossible enemies like the level 555 heartless that [chi] occasionally tosses at you, makes it pretty easy.
So, the big mystery in KHX/UX is who among the foretellers is the traitor. I'm thinking that there's a reasonable probability that it's Invi.
As of now, we know a bit of what it leads to:
(plot spoiler)
Aced trying to kill her on the roofs of Daybreak Town.
I think the snake is the traitor, guys.
Sign on KHInsider said:We were only able to catch a glimpse of this figure after meeting Mickey for the first time. You can view the image below with the figure at the upper left corner. We can't see much, but it does look a lot like one of Xehanort's black coats, don't you think?
Except it's not. Far from it. I've gone into the event files to grab a full image of this instance:
And here's a close up:
It's actually the Anguis Foreteller!
We have little information about this, but what do you think is going on? Why is this Foreteller watching over Mickey and the others? What could this be leading up to?
As of now, we know a bit of what it leads to:
(plot spoiler)
Aced trying to kill her on the roofs of Daybreak Town.
I think the snake is the traitor, guys.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Here's a silly little fan theory I cooked up. It no doubt has been tought before by someone but here goes:
Vanitas is one of those characters that don't need to return for KH3 or even shouldn't but he will because Nomura can't help himself (with the little DDD cameo and all) and nobody ever dies in KH. Anyway I was thinking how or why he would return.
The most boring way would be MX just randomly bringing him back with power of darkness™ as a random lackey. But it would be kinda lame, at this point he doesn't seem to have any part in MX master plan unless he is one of the 13 darknesses (tho there isn't really any indication yet that he is part Xehanort).
Now one of the bigger ''mysteries'' in the series that Nomura has been wanting to show for quite a while is Mickey's adventures in the Realm of Darkness during KH1 where he finds the Kingdom Key D. That keyblade is pretty interesting in itself. If you look at KH1FM in a vaccuum then it almost seems that there could just as well be only 2 keyblades in existence, the one Sora has and the one Mickey finds so it doesn't really seem that odd that it looks exactly like Sora's Kingdom Key, the true form of the keyblade.
Anyhow nowdays we know Mickey has had a keyblade long before that and keyblades are given out like candy in general with every single one having an unique look usually somehow connected to the wielder. But that makes Kingdom Key D even more interesting, why would it share the look of Kingdom Key but in reverse? One theory could be that every keyblade has a mirror image in the world of darkness for some reason and Mickey needed that exact one to be able to close the Door to Darkness with Sora.
But I suggest a different story. There is one more big thingy about Kingdom Key+Kingdom Key D, that being the design of the X-blade we see in Birth By Sleep. Now either it is just a huge red herring or there is a connection. With Sora and Kingdom Key it's easy to make. Ventus was the other half of the X-blade in BBS and thus you can make the connection that the reason when Sora gets the keyblade it would take the form of one half of X-blade. Not saying it has any special powers but the connection just makes it look that way. Perhaps if Riku got it first it would have resembled something else (Terra's Earthshaker if you allow bit of a retcon speculation). But one last time I ask, what the heck is up with Kingdom Key D, the other half if you will?
At this point you know where I'm kinda going with this. Think about the details yourself but imagine something like this: Mickey desperately searching for a keyblade that belongs in the realm of darkness. He just happens to stumble upon KKD in this vast void of nothing, neat coincedence.
Or perhaps someone wanted him to find it. The keyblade in this lore's hell that just happens to be functional unlike those that are found in the Keyblade Graveyard. ''United with the hearts of their masters.'' MX once said. Kingdom Key D still has the heart of it's old master in it alright, desperate to get out of the Realm of Darkness and to be able to exact his REVENGE!
Vanitas is one of those characters that don't need to return for KH3 or even shouldn't but he will because Nomura can't help himself (with the little DDD cameo and all) and nobody ever dies in KH. Anyway I was thinking how or why he would return.
The most boring way would be MX just randomly bringing him back with power of darkness™ as a random lackey. But it would be kinda lame, at this point he doesn't seem to have any part in MX master plan unless he is one of the 13 darknesses (tho there isn't really any indication yet that he is part Xehanort).
Now one of the bigger ''mysteries'' in the series that Nomura has been wanting to show for quite a while is Mickey's adventures in the Realm of Darkness during KH1 where he finds the Kingdom Key D. That keyblade is pretty interesting in itself. If you look at KH1FM in a vaccuum then it almost seems that there could just as well be only 2 keyblades in existence, the one Sora has and the one Mickey finds so it doesn't really seem that odd that it looks exactly like Sora's Kingdom Key, the true form of the keyblade.
Anyhow nowdays we know Mickey has had a keyblade long before that and keyblades are given out like candy in general with every single one having an unique look usually somehow connected to the wielder. But that makes Kingdom Key D even more interesting, why would it share the look of Kingdom Key but in reverse? One theory could be that every keyblade has a mirror image in the world of darkness for some reason and Mickey needed that exact one to be able to close the Door to Darkness with Sora.
But I suggest a different story. There is one more big thingy about Kingdom Key+Kingdom Key D, that being the design of the X-blade we see in Birth By Sleep. Now either it is just a huge red herring or there is a connection. With Sora and Kingdom Key it's easy to make. Ventus was the other half of the X-blade in BBS and thus you can make the connection that the reason when Sora gets the keyblade it would take the form of one half of X-blade. Not saying it has any special powers but the connection just makes it look that way. Perhaps if Riku got it first it would have resembled something else (Terra's Earthshaker if you allow bit of a retcon speculation). But one last time I ask, what the heck is up with Kingdom Key D, the other half if you will?
At this point you know where I'm kinda going with this. Think about the details yourself but imagine something like this: Mickey desperately searching for a keyblade that belongs in the realm of darkness. He just happens to stumble upon KKD in this vast void of nothing, neat coincedence.
Or perhaps someone wanted him to find it. The keyblade in this lore's hell that just happens to be functional unlike those that are found in the Keyblade Graveyard. ''United with the hearts of their masters.'' MX once said. Kingdom Key D still has the heart of it's old master in it alright, desperate to get out of the Realm of Darkness and to be able to exact his REVENGE!
2spooky
Snek fail loyalty? But that's unpossible!
What does that say about her expy? *conspirancy thoughts*
Also: doesn't who battles among the rooftops change depending on what Union you're in? Is it always Invi? If so then yes, that's pretty telling. Just as Ava has her role to play regardless of your Union.
turns out they're all traitors, what a twist
damn homey
Yeah, still wondering what's up with that key myself as its role in the expanded lore seems quite diminished (at least until the x-blade appeared). As for Van, I just assumed he was the real reason MX wanted Sora to succumb to darkness: so he could reclaim him in some form.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
the snake is the... traitor.... nomura-san.. please
Nope. It's alway Aced and Invi. And Aced was going hard.
So, the big mystery in KHX/UX is who among the foretellers is the traitor. I'm thinking that there's a reasonable probability that it's Invi.
As of now, we know a bit of what it leads to:
(plot spoiler)
Aced trying to kill her on the roofs of Daybreak Town.
I think the snake is the traitor, guys.
From my point of view the Unicorns are evil!