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Kobe is a fool if he was actually cheating again. I don't feel sorry for him at all. Hope everything works out in a way that the kids don't go through too much over this.
 
onemic said:
I think the real issue people are bringing up is why there is such a crazy bias towards women being almost guaranteed half of their husbands wealth when divorcing, but men do not have that same level of guarantee when they divorce from their wives. Pretty much why is a divorce usually seen as advantageous to a woman and bad for a man.

At least this is the vibe I'm getting from the thread.
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Pretty sure the primary bread winner gets screwed actually. It's just often a man.
 
Heavy said:
Damn, ice cold but truth.
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Meh. Just seems like he's using her sparse posting on this topic to project due to being burned in another. The contractual nature has been made clear, as is the personal value Kobe KNOWINGLY AND VOLUNTARILY put on his wife. It's simple and it's clear. Anyone bemoaning the plight of the hard working man being screwed over by his "gold-digging" wife is just carrying water for people who want to cheat and keep their trophy wife and kids under their roof. Family life isn't easy and it's costly.

Being married and seeing a lot of marriages, I'm not going to rush to judge anyone for cheating, but the costs are well defined and clear. So boo fucking hoo.
 
Paradoxal_Utopia said:
Not as classy as you hysterically defending her against every possibility that might not paint her in the best light. Yeah, it's just coincidence she's put herself in a position to get the maximum financial benefit possible. Sure, no-one knows anything for sure. But what's creepy is people like you, who feel the incessant need to staunchly defend someone who's better off than everyone on this board combined, and who couldn't give 2 shits about you, as if you're standing up for human rights or something. There's going to be speculation in this kind of thread, if you're so outraged by that concept, you can stop popping in here, instead of continually acting outraged over something so asinine. Get some perspective, there's a million other causes you can stand up for thats more worthy than whatever the heck it is you're doing here. How the hell is people on a videogame message board speculating on the sex life of a multi-millionaire hurt her, or you? You're the type of person that desperately looks for misogyny everywhere.
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I'm starting to agree with this. A lot of threads dealing with women devolution seems to look out for any little misogyny and argue against it. I'm not saying it is a bad thing, but it certainly gets annoying.

All I will say about this divorce is that Ms. Bryant is in no way deserving of half of hundreds of millions. I think 20% would be more than fair. Divorce needs some serious retooling in this country to make it a lot more fair. It needs to be more specialized and specific and not so generalized.
 
Byakuya769 said:
Meh. Just seems like he's using her sparse posting on this topic to project being burned in another. The contractual nature has been made clear, as is the personal value Kobe KNOWINGLY AND VOLUNTARILY put on his wife. It's simple and it's clear. Anyone bemoaning the plight of the hard working man being screwed over by his "gold-digging" wife is just carrying water for people who want to cheat and keep their trophy wife and kids under their roof. Family life isn't easy and it's costly.

Being married and seeing a lot of marriages, I'm not going to rush to judge anyone for cheating, but the costs are well defined and clear. So boo fucking hoo.
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Agreed.
 
royalan said:
It's been said several times already; the error you and others continue to make here is constraining the legal issue to women sticking it to men. That's hardly the case. If a couple were to divorce and it was the woman who was the primary bread winner and responsible for majority of assets accumulated in the marriage, those assets would still be split and a portion awarded to the man. Also, child custody is more frequently being awarded to men in these cases if it can be proven that it's within the children's best interests, with women having to then pay child support.

Likewise, in marriages where both partners work and contribute financially, in the event of divorce shared assets would be liquidated and equally awarded. You don't hear about this a lot though because these types of divorces are usually settled out of court.

It's not ingrained in the system that the man gets the shaft, it just turns out that way a lot because, as I've said before, men tend to prefer partners who are less financially capable than they. They prefer being the one who brings home the big bacon. So the marriage dynamic where the man is the primary bread winner and thus splits his wealth with his spouse is simply the most common scenario. But it isn't ingrained in the law.

And I'd like to think that the very fact that prenups exist, in all their wacky forms is proof that the system works (seriously, have you read the prenup between Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban? Funniest shit...). Marriage is a mutual partnership until designated otherwise. Makes total sense. You can't blame the system because Kobe didn't exercise his rights to use it to his benefit. And hey - maybe he doesn't mind sharing his wealth with his former wife due to all the shit he put her through?
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What, no half?

(just found this funny, not making anything of it. Not a serious post.)
 
Ploid 3.0 said:
What, no half?

(just found this funny, not making anything of it. Not a serious post.)
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Would you like me to edit in the word "half" in my post? Men can walk away from these things with half too.

I just left it out because, as someone pointed out earlier, it's not every time that a woman literally gets half in this things.
 
royalan said:
It's been said several times already; the error you and others continue to make here is constraining the legal issue to women sticking it to men. That's hardly the case. If a couple were to divorce and it was the woman who was the primary bread winner and responsible for majority of assets accumulated in the marriage, those assets would still be split and a portion awarded to the man. Also, child custody is more frequently being awarded to men in these cases if it can be proven that it's within the children's best interests, with women having to then pay child support.

Likewise, in marriages where both partners work and contribute financially, in the event of divorce shared assets would be liquidated and equally awarded. You don't hear about this a lot though because these types of divorces are usually settled out of court.

It's not ingrained in the system that the man gets the shaft, it just turns out that way a lot because, as I've said before, men tend to prefer partners who are less financially capable than they. They prefer being the one who brings home the big bacon. So the marriage dynamic where the man is the primary bread winner and thus splits his wealth with his spouse is simply the most common scenario. But it isn't ingrained in the law.

And I'd like to think that the very fact that prenups exist, in all their wacky forms is proof that the system works (seriously, have you read the prenup between Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban? Funniest shit...). Marriage is a mutual partnership until designated otherwise. Makes total sense. You can't blame the system because Kobe didn't exercise his rights to use it to his benefit. And hey - maybe he doesn't mind sharing his wealth with his former wife due to all the shit he put her through?
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Haha, no way. Those cases are really rare. The woman would have to be on drugs or disabled for the man to be considered the caretaker.
 
neutralgamer02 said:
Haha, no way. Those cases are really rare. The woman would have to be on drugs or disabled for the man to be considered the caretaker.
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That's why I said more freqently. You're right: it's still not the most common way things shake out, but it's becoming increasingly less assumed that the mother will provide the optimal care for the children.
 
Kobe fans gonna kobe.

Don't get married if you're concerned about marriage laws. Do a pre-nup. Don't cheat that leads to divorce.

Let's blame everyone and everything except for Kobe.
 
marathonfool said:
Kobe fans gonna kobe.
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Devolution said:
Why? Why even fucking marry in the first place. I don't think people in this thread understand the point of it.
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I don't think you understand.

Marriage is a partnership while you are fucking married. When that shit ends while it might make sense to split assets jointly gained during the partnership, it doesn't make a lick of sense to split anything soley earned. Kobe's wealth has absolutely nothing to do with her existence in the slightest. The thought that anyone would have to make lawyers write a prenup just to make common sense legal is a travesty. It's based on laws from a time where a divorce would render some women useless, unable to get jobs due to discrimination and the like. Even with the argument of the right for a partner to maintain a lifestyle, or ideas that a partner cannot support themselves based on lifestyle choices made during the partnerships, defaulting to an even split of assets is insanity.

It gets even worse when the partner ends it for no apparent tangible reasons. At least with Kobe, there can be animosity towards the fact that he can't keep his shit in his pants. But this happens in other cases where the partner set to lose his shit has done nothing of the sort.
 
I think what's worst about this thread is the over the top concern about a trivial amount of printed paper that won't change Kobe's life at all. Above and beyond, the separation from his beloved (?) spouse and likely permanent separation from his children. wtf.
 
Paradoxal_Utopia said:
Not as classy as you hysterically defending her against every possibility that might not paint her in the best light. Yeah, it's just coincidence she's put herself in a position to get the maximum financial benefit possible. Sure, no-one knows anything for sure. But what's creepy is people like you, who feel the incessant need to staunchly defend someone who's better off than everyone on this board combined, and who couldn't give 2 shits about you, as if you're standing up for human rights or something. There's going to be speculation in this kind of thread, if you're so outraged by that concept, you can stop popping in here, instead of continually acting outraged over something so asinine. Get some perspective, there's a million other causes you can stand up for thats more worthy than whatever the heck it is you're doing here. How the hell is people on a videogame message board speculating on the sex life of a multi-millionaire hurt her, or you? You're the type of person that desperately looks for misogyny everywhere.
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Lol, so mad.
 
What you guys need to understand is having a supportive chick by your side who gives you no issues can help you succeed in the other aspects of your life. Kobe was with a good chick and to say that the people around you don't influence your success or failure is bullsh!t. It may not seem so, but I'm pretty sure she influenced his success in some way giving him peace of mind to continue training and winning.

A good broad by your side who encourages you and gives you the emotional support you need and takes care of your children definitely is an advantage for people trying to succeed at their craft.

She deserves half and honestly, if I was Kobe I wouldn't give a sh!t because she gave me two beautiful children. I mean look at her, she is mad hot. Their kids are going to most likely have good looks which will help them in life.

Half of what you make is the price you pay for kids. Men should realize that. Just make sure the chick you end up with would be a good mother and is a good person.
 
Ketchup Boy said:
What you guys need to understand is having a supportive chick by your side who gives you no issues can help you succeed in the other aspects of your life. Kobe was with a good chick and to say that the people around you don't influence your success or failure is bullsh!t. It may not seem so, but I'm pretty sure she influenced his success in some way giving him peace of mind to continue training and winning.

A good broad by your side who encourages you and gives you the emotional support you need and takes care of your children definitely is an advantage for people trying to succeed at their craft.

She deserves half and honestly, if I was Kobe I wouldn't give a sh!t because she gave me two beautiful children. I mean look at her, she is mad hot. Their kids are going to most likely have good looks which will help them in life.

Half of what you make is the price you pay for kids. Men should realize that. Just make sure the chick you end up with would be a good mother and is a good person.
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I don't understand this. Not only is it jumping into the shoes of someone you've never met, but its assuming that people are so reliant that they can't function or be successful without the support of someone on a daily/hourly basis.

I do understand that legally, she's getting paid. And if he wants to do something about it, then its going to be rough. That's really all there is. All that cultural shit is a matter of opinion...
 
Ketchup Boy said:
What you guys need to understand is having a supportive chick by your side who gives you no issues can help you succeed in the other aspects of your life. Kobe was with a good chick and to say that the people around you don't influence your success or failure is bullsh!t. It may not seem so, but I'm pretty sure she influenced his success in some way giving him peace of mind to continue training and winning.

A good broad by your side who encourages you and gives you the emotional support you need and takes care of your children definitely is an advantage for people trying to succeed at their craft.

She deserves half and honestly, if I was Kobe I wouldn't give a sh!t because she gave me two beautiful children. I mean look at her, she is mad hot. Their kids are going to most likely have good looks which will help them in life.

Half of what you make is the price you pay for kids. Men should realize that. Just make sure the chick you end up with would be a good mother and is a good person.
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She may be able to get 50%, but she doesn't deserve more than about 5% - 20%. We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. She didn't do hundreds of millions of dollars of support. Also, we have no idea how she acted around kobe. She may have been nice, or she may have been a monster. There is no way to know.

JABEE said:
When a partnership splits do both party's split the debts as well?
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Depends on the debt and the state, but for the most part yeah it is split.
 
Devolution said:
And these entertainers shouldn't get married and have kids. They want their family at home and to fuck on the road. I'm supposed to feel bad when it bites them back in the ass?
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Oh no, I agree with you Devo. They should get a prenup or stop whining when their dick gets them in trouble. I just can't help but roll my eyes when men especially get all high and mighty when they're nowhere near in the position of temptation that these entertainers are in.
 
kobe always struck me as a closeted sadist. wouldn't surpise me at all for his ex to write a tell all book painting him as a fiend.
 
Speaking about divorces, it reminds me of a case I was reading this Friday:

- Guy leaves his wife in 2008.
- He wants to "do the right thing" and so pays for the upkeep of the home and pays an unofficial spousal amount.
- The wife at the urging of a lawyer rightly files for a legally binding spousal payment by the courts in 2009.
- Guy finds it reasonable and starts paying the exact amount the court declares from 2009 onwards.
- Court finds that the guy needs to pay the spousal amount dating back to when he left his wife in 2008. The amount that he paid previously is not counted.
- Guy and his now ex-wife agree to a lump-sum settlement for 2008 because he basically paid it once before. Comes to about $15,700 and they negotiate that he can just pay $15,000 to settle his difference.
- Court accepts the settlement.
- Tax law rejects any deduction in his income for any spousal payment in 2008. He pays taxes on both amounts provided to his wife and the amount is hers tax free. Why? The deduction only applies if the income is distributed through a court sanctioned series of payments. The negotiated settlement is exempt per the literal reading of the law.

She also gets about $2600 a month and is free to stay in the marital home for as long as the parties cannot agree to sell the property and divide the equity. Since he has an equity stake in the home, he is also partially responsible for its upkeep costs.
 
YoungHav said:
Oh no, I agree with you Devo. They should get a prenup or stop whining when their dick gets them in trouble. I just can't help but roll my eyes when men especially get all high and mighty when they're nowhere near in the position of temptation that these entertainers are in.
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Oh okay, yeah I can't help but also wonder about some of the women who marry these guys, either really naive or gettin' enough perks I guess.
 
Kobe played with fire and got burnt. I don't think she deserves half but that's the fault of the rich, fighting for tax breaks but not a capping what a spouse gets.
 
Word on the street is Kobe was cheating again.

Early speculation ------> Vanessa Curry and Jessica Burciaga

Jus sayin
 
Derrick01 said:
"it'll never happen to me"

Now he gets to lose half of all the stuff he worked hard to earn, to someone who didn't earn it to make things worse.
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What is that supposed to mean? She's the mother of his kids, she has full-time parental responsibilities, and when he went out and stuck hid dick into foreign pussy, she stood by him. I have no doubt in my mind that this break up is a result of his infidelity. So fuck him.

ps. Still love Kobe the player
 
Heshinsi said:
What is that supposed to mean? She's the mother of his kids, she has full-time parental responsibilities, and when he went out and stuck hid dick into foreign pussy, she stood by him. I have no doubt in my mind that this break up is a result of his infidelity. So fuck him.

ps. Still love Kobe the player
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worth 160 million? no. but the law states that he fucked up. should've got that prenup and listened to jellybean.
 
Ruh roh

Kobe Bryant and Wife Vanessa Kiss - Divorce Over?
The divorce drama may have ended for LA Lakers Star Kobe Bryant and his wife Vanessa.
Sources reported to TMZ that the pair are reconciling, even spending Valentine’s Day Together.

Pictures have surfaced showing the gorgeous Mexicana cheering on her soon to be ex-hubby at Tuesday night’s Lakers game against the Atlanta Hawks.

After smiling at her man from the sidelines, the couple was seen kissing while heading towards the Laker locker room at the Staples Center.

Even though the couple has filed for divorce it won’t be final until June, leaving plenty of time for the couple to reconcile permanently.
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