I smell a delay.
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[Kojima Station] Metal Gear Solid V: E3 Sneak Peek - June 5, 2014, 8 AM (EDT)
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I smell a delay.
Love Deterrence
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Wishmaster92
Member
You will be ashamed of your words...
Ah yeah that interview,
Edit: Nvm, found it and it was from E3 2013.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/...v--the-phantom-pain-e3-2013--kojima-interview
That very last question. This man is such a genius. He knows we haven't seen shit about this game.
Hold-ups from cardboard boxes: FUCK YEAH!
"RAWR!"
Surprise motherf***r would be a good MGS meme for this, i think
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
Dude, it's 1080p 60fps locked (if GZ is anything to go by) with a freakin' massive map on a console.
Yes I think so.
Yes we do and yes they are in TPP.
I know right?
jacksepticeye
Member
Was just about to say haha
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Good lord the art and graphics look damn amazing.
i called you out for being hyperbolic, which is what you were being.
i understand completely what you're saying, and it is still incorrect.
that room to spare is what is keeping the 60fps absolutely rock steady on both current gen platforms. this is not a case of "tighten up the graphics on level 3", they cannot magically improve texture quality because there is some overhead in the hardware they're using to maintain a stable frame rate.
ps4 - ps3
ps4 - ps3
i rest my case.
Love Deterrence
Member
Change sides? I don't recall Hideo saying he was on theirs.
they were at ms e3 last year.
Also keep in mind this video is from a stream recorded lol. Not even direct footage, game will look amazing
on PS4.
Statue of Limitation
Member
Looks like the game still has infinite hold ups, ugh.
Nightengale
Member
Yeah, but only as a showcase. It's not like he signed a blood-deal with MS where he has to lick Mattrick's shoes and swallow it.
MGS games never had "infinite hold ups" if you hold up someone and put away the weapon he will slowly put his arms down.
I wonder if it'll still be 60 on PS4
SamuelSupreme
Banned
My body is so ready. Im glad to see the cardboard box return...didnt feel right without it/.
I don't see why it wouldn't be? I mean Kojima said that they still have plenty of room to spare in terms of technical improvements.
On PS4 of course
Wishmaster92
Member
Was going to say that i noticed motion blur when he was running. Looks like they added it.
matrix-cat
Member
If they ditch the PS3/360 versions I'd start worrying about losing 60FPS in the current-gen versions, but since they seem to be sticking to their guns I've got a good feeling.
No... you don't understand. Here are the pics. Look at this and tell me that it is the best thing that can be achieved... Also I'd like to point out that I never said that ALL textures are bad. In fact I specifically said that SOME textures, mainly on rocks etc are really fugly and that they don't even look like textures that would be acceptable by last gen standards.
And yes even at 1080p 60 fps I don't think that these can't be better:
The pics speak for themselves. The game has SOME really ugly textures that would even stir up conversation even by last gen standards (NO I am not comparing GZ PS3 version with PS4)
Surely PS4 can do better than that...
I rest my case as well...
My friend check my post history. I adore this game, i find the graphics fine really, I only said that some texture work is really sub par and the only other technical issue i have with the game is the clipping and pop in. Other than that I love how the games feels and even looks and I think that fox engine's lighting is among the best ever. But surely MGSV is held back due to being cross gen. But seriously I believe that this
can be improved in the ps4 version.
Exactly this. Plus why would they ditch the PS3 version when the latter is outselling the PS4 version in Japan? In fact, the PS3 version of GZ sold a lot of copies worldwide. They should ditch the Xbox versions current & last instead since those didn't sell, at all.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Augemitbutter
Member
so much hype T_T
i can't breathe. please gimme a release date soon.
i can't breathe. please gimme a release date soon.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Is it still 1080p60
Looks lovely.
Looks lovely.
you must have some damn strong nostalgia glasses if you don't think there were textures last gen that looked so much worse than the ones you posted. for instance here are rocks in the same area as your pictures and surprise surprise, it looks absolutely inferior to the current gen versions.
but the the ps3 version of gz is a last gen game. not only is it a last gen game, it's also the same game as the current gen version and a better comparison in terms of variable quality. you cannot compare an open world title with a lot of dynamic lighting to say, a corridor shooter like gears of war. you cannot say "oh these textures can be better because X game had better textures" when both games are entirely different.
the ps4 isn't actually the powerhouse you think it is, and i absolutely refute the idea that kojima productions are holding back when it's clear they're crafting the appropriate assets to maintain that rock steady 60fps on current gen.
Freaky Fred
Banned
box tackle??
So in other words you are just saying that Kojima has maxed out the potential of PS4 through a cross gen title?
Really?
Allow me to completely and 100% disagree. Besides even kojima himself said that the game might not look as impressive because the tech used has been with last gen in mind...
And yes i am talking always about open world and 1080p and 60fps. Its not because the ps4 is a powerhouse but because such textures remind me personally of some ps2/xbox quality. And no not all textures are like this ofc. Just some.
Ps: the fact that you keep comparing the ps4 version with the ps3 one when i originally never even bothered with this, proves that you did not understand my point.
Statue of Limitation
Member
You should test that theory out on Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes
Or literally any MGS game
They do eventually go for the weapon in MGS2 I think.
I'm watching the clip again and it's so funny/cool to hear how excited Kojima gets with the box. I was scared that TPP would take out all the quirkiness given the tone but the "SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" from the box gives me some hope we'll see some more stuff like that in the final game.
Love Deterrence
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This still holds true in Ground Zeroes. If you instruct them to lie down, they are down unless there is an ongoing "Alert" phase!
Rogue Agent
Banned
I think the other box technique will be similar to the Assassin's Box in PW - since Snake can now pop out of boxes.
kojima has maxed out the potential of the ps4 for a 1080p/stable 60fps, open world, cross gen, multi-platform mgsv, yes. i have every confidence they have done all they can for the experience they want to craft, they could theoretically have better textures for a 30fps 720p corridor shooter game, but THEY ARE NOT MAKING THAT GAME. that is not mgsv. creating games is modular, it is not one size fits all. it's very easy for you to say "these textures could be better" when you don't seem to grasp the concept that not all games are created equal. it's hyperbolic.
even with high quality emulation, environmental ps2/xbox textures don't look better than those rock textures at all. more hyperbole.
i compare the ps3 version with the ps4 version because it's the same game, and the ps3 version is still a last gen game. you can't say "these textures are worse than in last gen games" when there is a last gen version of the game that has considerably worse textures than the current gen version. the last gen version is the best example for comparison.
Statue of Limitation
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They're about to put their hands down annny second
Yeah... I stopped reading there... Talk about hyperbole...
So i guess the best thing Naughty Dog could accomplish at 30 fps 720 res on ps3 was Uncharted 1 right?
I guess uncharted 3 which was also 720p and 30 fps looks worse...and gtaiv looks better than gtav correct?
Same applies to all 30 fps 720p 1st generation ps3 games right? Looks like your logic is flawed...