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Korean Urban Legend: Fan Death....wat?

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Yeah I teach English and I make sure to ask my Korean students about this. They're all young, university educated and they've all claimed to believe it so far.

A shocking number of them are unable to swim/afraid of water too.

Interestingly I was almost killed by a fan once, but it was a ceiling one and one of the blades fell off two feet from me in the middle of the night. I went right back to sleep.
 
A shocking number of them are unable to swim/afraid of water too.

This was weird to me. My dad can't swim. He's from Pusan.

My uncle could not swim. He learned...after he joined the Marines. And according to a letter he sent home to his sister, did not know that being a Marine would involve water.
 
I think it's used now as an acceptable scapegoat for when a relative dies. A family would lose massive face there if they tell the truth that little Choong Hyun really died because he was a raging alcoholic or he tied a belt around his neck while masturbating.

And yes, having a fan that shut off every 90 minutes drove me nuts.

Choong hyun, the youht paster at my old church?

It makes so much sense now.
 
I think it's used now as an acceptable scapegoat for when a relative dies. A family would lose massive face there if they tell the truth that little Choong Hyun really died because he was a raging alcoholic or he tied a belt around his neck while masturbating.

And yes, having a fan that shut off every 90 minutes drove me nuts.

So you think fan death came out of people not wanting to be shamed?
 
Ok, so there's a bunch of different supposed mechanisms by which running a fan kills you. Is it:
-hypothermia
-asphyxiation
-"baking" in the heat

Or is it... ALL OF THEM AT ONCE?
 
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I knew this was coming, but the fan-for-a-head makes it more awesome!

Anyways, if I was to guess, maybe something in the air that does this (since Asian weather pattern can be very different from those on the west?)
 
Okay guys I found the fan a few hours ago and have been blowing it directly in my face the whole time, so far my internal body temperature has not been effected. In the interest of Science I will do this for 8 hours.

Funny thing though, I found the fan behind me on a desk. Somehow it had gotten some piano wire wrapped around it all looped out and stuff. If I had stood up it would have went over my head. :lol That was odd.
 
Running a fan in a sealed room would actually cause a net increase in the temperature of the room due to the heat of the fan motor, the kinetic energy being added to the air itself, and the heat that would be lost from your body. That said it would probably take days to weeks for it to increase the energy enough to raise the temperature to a level that would actually be dangerous. As far as it cooling you to the extent that you could get hypothermia, the only way that could happen is if the air temperature was already low enough to cause it naturally. The fan might simply just speed up that process, so really it's not the fan that's killing you at all. Anyway, yeah, any rational person can see this is an illogical conclusion.
 
If I go to Korea I'm going to have to import a fan I guess :S

I sleep with a fan on every night.
 
Yes, but only because we're outsiders who don't share this belief. A huge number of Europeans believe in astrology, which is substantially more ludicrous than this. Lots of Japanese people believe that your blood type controls what kind of personality you have. As an Irreligious Atheist, I get the same feeling when I see the number of people following various religions.
I was planning on just enjoying the ride and not offering any commentary in here on this one, but this really got me
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Astrology is not substantially more ludicrous than this. Astrology is based on long-discredited concepts of celestial events influencing human behavior and events, from a time before heliocentrism, let alone a modern understanding of the cosmos. No one but a tiny- probably not even statistically significant- population of even people who believe in astrology would claim that it is science, and even if they did they would be quite unlikely to try and use legitimate modern science (astronomy) to back up its claims, since there would be no evidence to be found.

Astrology is in this sense a belief system with plenty in common with any religion or cult or system of "spirituality," "enlightenment," etc. No attempt beyond even the most superficial is made to say that these are science, even by extreme adherents to such views.

Fan Death on the other hand is explicitly portrayed to citizens of South Korea as based on modern science.

Look at this shit from the OP:
If bodies are exposed to electric fans or air conditioners for too long, it causes [the] bodies to lose water and [causes] hypothermia. If directly in contact with [air current from] a fan, this could lead to death from [an] increase of carbon dioxide saturation concentration [sic] and decrease of oxygen concentration. The risks are higher for the elderly and patients with respiratory problems. From 2003 [to] 2005, a total of 20 cases were reported through the CISS involving asphyxiations caused by leaving electric fans and air conditioners on while sleeping. To prevent asphyxiation, timers should be set, wind direction should be rotated and doors should be left open.
These are words that mean something in terms modern science understand. They're just silly and wrong and ridiculous.

A more relevant analogy would be to Scientology, or even better, Intelligent Design (which I would say is equally ludicrous to Fan Death, no more and no less).

They are both psuedoscientific theories that begin basically as a sort of uneasy feeling about the world held by a certain community, followed by an enormous leap to a dramatic conclusion despite no evidence at all being collected on the way, and then tiny bits an pieces filled in after the fact to make the entire package seem based in science. I literally had "irreducible complexity" flash in my brain while reading "increase of carbon dioxide saturation concentration"- jargon meant to lend an air of scientific authority to what ultimately is patent nonsense.

Astrology may be
is
patent nonsense as well, but doesn't occupy the same sphere as these grand marshall champions of bullshit.
 
The next time we meet, it is my goal to convince him that this is bullshit.

Success!

I presented evidence to him, and he came to the conclusion that the whole concept of fan death is crap. He said that it's just because his teachers all told him that when he was little, and because it gets reported on the news, he just took it for granted that it was real and based on actual science. But when he actually stopped to think about it, it didn't really sound all that plausible.

Next up, his belief in god!

Just kidding, I wouldn't do that.
 
I've heard some Koreans claim it only affects Koreans.

Totally stupid and the people promoting it should be ashamed about it.

It gets into the 'well it's their culture and personal beliefs etc etc'.

I love Koreans to death. They are a loyal bunch. But goddamn does their passion and loyalty lead them to stubbornness and pig headed ness.

I also had one tell me dog meat gives you sexual stamina and that grease from Chinese food is bad, but grease from Korean food like samgyeopsal (aka bacon) is good because it clears the dust from your throat.
 
I've gone to bed having a fan blowing on me dozens of times.
Even sleeping hundreds of nights with a fan on.


Some kind of superhuman.
 
This isn't just a Korean thing...it seems to be all over Asia. When I was living in Japan and stayed at my in-laws' house, I'd always want to use a fan and they would FREAK OUT, spouting the death-nonsense. I'd also be given a fan with a timer that would stop after 60 minutes. It was really annoying and I'd wake up sweating at night.

When we ended up living with them for a few months, I went out and found a fan without a timer, and the whole family was scared shitless when I'd sleep with it blowing on me all night. Even now, my wife hates it when I use the ceiling fan in our bedroom at night, and blame it on her getting headaches/catching colds.



lmao

Singapore's seems spared from this weird fan thing...
Never heard of it my whole life.
And I like having the fan blowing at my head while I sleep.
With my doors and windows closed.
Lol.
 
It's not all that hard to understand how an idea like this spreads informally, from person to person, in a casual way, like any other superstition or old wives' tale. But how is it possible that the official, governmental Consumer Protection Board had a hand in spreading it? Seems so absurd that something like that could happen so recently in an industrialized, modern, fairly wealthy country.
 
Some people in Japan believe this too (because of Korea). But Japanese people believe a lot of ridiculous bullshit. Insurance salesmen could have a field day in this country.
 
It's not all that hard to understand how an idea like this spreads informally, from person to person, in a casual way, like any other superstition or old wives' tale. But how is it possible that the official, governmental Consumer Protection Board had a hand in spreading it? Seems so absurd that something like that could happen so recently in an industrialized, modern, fairly wealthy country.

Becuase they are just people too.
 
This isn't just a Korean thing...it seems to be all over Asia. When I was living in Japan and stayed at my in-laws' house, I'd always want to use a fan and they would FREAK OUT, spouting the death-nonsense. I'd also be given a fan with a timer that would stop after 60 minutes. It was really annoying and I'd wake up sweating at night.
East Asia I guess. South Asia need fans. When I visit relatives I'm always sleeping with either fans or airco.
 
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