he was not the only art lead on Bioshock 1, as Levine has pointed out in damage control today.
Mr. Sinclair, owner of sinclair spirits and art director of Bio 1, is bringing it home.
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Kotaku Rumor: BioShock Infinite is troubled, having issues reaching vision, cut modes
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he was not the only art lead on Bioshock 1, as Levine has pointed out in damage control today.
Mr. Sinclair, owner of sinclair spirits and art director of Bio 1, is bringing it home.
I've just watched both the big gameplay videos, reminded me how incredible it all looked, and how much I dislike her design.
It must be so disappointing to give such a significant amount of your life to a project, have such high standards for it, and see it struggle (if that is indeed the case).
It must be so disappointing to give such a significant amount of your life to a project, have such high standards for it, and see it struggle (if that is indeed the case).
Psychoward
Banned
What?! Noooooo
Poimandres
Member
Oh god damnit.
Coming in to this year, my most awaited games were this, Prey 2 and STALKER 2. Fuck this year.
Coming in to this year, my most awaited games were this, Prey 2 and STALKER 2. Fuck this year.
Meccanical
Member
Oh man, you must be one sad cookie.
RadarScope1
Member
After reading the full article, it doesn't seem like such a huge deal. It's taking longer than expected, a handful of key people have left but nearly all the leads remain, and multiplayer is fucked but who cares about that? It shouldn't even be a consideration.
In Ken I trust.
In Ken I trust.
Raven77
Member
I sort of knew this was going to happen based on my following observations:
The core style of the game world is difficult to pull off. How big can these "floating worlds" really be before they are just way into sci-fi territory.
They have only ever showed one small piece of a level that looked confusingly put together (the city with the weird roller coaster like structure spinning through it)
The gameplay elements have seemed confused...from the very first trailer. Is it a shooter? an on rails game? a RPG?
Idk, I was never hyped for it although I hope it comes out and is a success for the people working on it.
The core style of the game world is difficult to pull off. How big can these "floating worlds" really be before they are just way into sci-fi territory.
They have only ever showed one small piece of a level that looked confusingly put together (the city with the weird roller coaster like structure spinning through it)
The gameplay elements have seemed confused...from the very first trailer. Is it a shooter? an on rails game? a RPG?
Idk, I was never hyped for it although I hope it comes out and is a success for the people working on it.
Koopakiller
Banned
The game screams epic, big-budget, like it's just that for the sake of it rather than for compelling gameplay reasons, and while all of the fancy scripting and the "emotional connections" with NPC's could be a real treat, it doesn't feel as if it's worth the effort that they're putting into it. I'd rather have another exciting, but bare-bones effort like System Shock 2 or SWAT 4 and no doubt Irrational could make 50 System Shock 2's for what they're paying for Infinite.
BassForever
Member
Have there ever been any overly ambitions/delayed games that ever turned out amazing? The longer Infinite takes the more skeptical I am of it's quality.
Net_Wrecker
Member
The day that publishers, developers, and game "journalists" figure out that Battlefield, Call of Duty, and Halo have a stranglehold on multiplayer FPS's will be a GLORIOUS day. Stop shoving multiplayer into your games, please. No one cares about the mode. It's a waste of time and money to even get into it. Focus on your game world, narrative, and mechanics.
And the Bioshock Infinite presentations always seemed REALLY staged to me, so I'm not surprised to read that those were more "dream" than "reality."
And the Bioshock Infinite presentations always seemed REALLY staged to me, so I'm not surprised to read that those were more "dream" than "reality."
Depends how ambitious you mean, HL2 and RE4 I would say both qualify.
Poimandres
Member
Yeah... after the other two sort of fell through I thought at least Bioshock Infinite would be safe. If this doesn't turn out well, I'll be devastated.
At least Dishonored is still on track.
That wasn't a demo. That was an animated bullshot.
whalleywhat
Member
Unban Kotaku.
BassForever
Member
Don't think HL2 really counts cause it was announced in 2003 and came out in 2004 IIRC (was delayed a year)
RE4 is probably the only example now that you mention it, RE4 probably escaped because Capcom didn't continue to try and push forward with builds they were having issues with choosing to scrap them all (minus the DMC build) til they had one they liked and stuck with.
Poimandres
Member
S.T.A.L.K.E.R was announced in 2001, and finally released in 2007. It was amazing. See also: Red Dead Redemption, Resident Evil 4.
What in the world is going on right now......
There were only about eighteen months between announcement and release, but it was still more than five years in development as a project.
Poimandres
Member
Don't forget Bioshock Infinite was only announced in August 2010, and was always scheduled for a 2012 release. It's only had one delay so far...
BassForever
Member
Really I thought it was announced earlier then that? Thanks for the clarification
goldenpp72
Member
Delay it for next gen, make it a first year title.
Widescreen wasn't really busted. You should heighten the horizontal as your vertical perspective should be determined by your distance from the monitor. Your FoV should be higher on PC because you're physically closer to the screen though, I know you could change that in a config file, but I can't remember if it's in an in-game menu.
CambriaRising
Member
It has been fixed now.
paperboywriter
Member
kotaku's anonymous sources are speaking. please listen.
I feel you. Still, you'll not see a game of Infinite's scope unless the design mandate includes some form of MP. Gotta plump those IPs up for DLCs and sequels, know what I'm sayin'?
Kind of sad.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Probably the best way to put it.
PixyJunket
Member
One of the few Western games I care about, so hopefully they get on track.
I will be honest though and say that I smiled a little when they indicated that the mutli-player modes were cut.
I will be honest though and say that I smiled a little when they indicated that the mutli-player modes were cut.
paperboywriter
Member
well ken said at the beginning, MP will not be a part of Bioshock infinite, maybe they came up with a great idea on paper but later realised it wasn't that great afterall.
Yeah it was, which is why they had to patch it.
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/13203-bioshock-2-pc-widescreen-issue-patched/
http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/article/widescreenannouncement
SkyMasterson
Member
Well I'm all for them delaying the game again if it means restoring some of that vision.
Hell delay it until Fall of 2013 for all I care. There are too many great games between now and then coming out anyways.
Hell delay it until Fall of 2013 for all I care. There are too many great games between now and then coming out anyways.
Irrational has done some prototyping of core gameplay mechanics, so it might be safe to say that the entire thing wasn't staged or at least within their grasp. I remember watching them demo a playable prototype of the "rail ride" mechanic. Looked very neat.
The biggest problem I see to all of this, however, is the current consoles' limited memory and the fact that you're zipping along super fast. I'm not about to shut them down, but shit, they need to be working some crazy magick wherein occluders are saving them buttloads of memory or they're constantly streaming sub-maps in and out around the player as they ride the rails. Or something else entirely. I'm curious to see some of the wizardry if they pull it off!
I'd be shitting bricks about delaying it anywhere closer to 2014 if the new consoles rear their head anytime soon. Worst case scenario I can see now is that they ship Infinite close to the launch of one or both of the new consoles. Worse than that, having to change tech to release on the new consoles.
The biggest problem I see to all of this, however, is the current consoles' limited memory and the fact that you're zipping along super fast. I'm not about to shut them down, but shit, they need to be working some crazy magick wherein occluders are saving them buttloads of memory or they're constantly streaming sub-maps in and out around the player as they ride the rails. Or something else entirely. I'm curious to see some of the wizardry if they pull it off!
I'd be shitting bricks about delaying it anywhere closer to 2014 if the new consoles rear their head anytime soon. Worst case scenario I can see now is that they ship Infinite close to the launch of one or both of the new consoles. Worse than that, having to change tech to release on the new consoles.
That's more like, people are bitching and have no idea how aspect ratio's relate to field of vision, so we'll just change it to appease them, to me. Although, 'is much more awesome' of course, is also a fair point.
EDIT: And it still didn't, the post patch shows 16:10 actually being wider.
EDIT2: Actually, that's probably just incorrect labeling at fault.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Team Fortress 2 took 9 years to come out and was originally had a realistic military take with RTS elements for commanders of the team.
