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Lab Zero (Skullgirls) announce Indivisible "Metroidvania w/ Valkyrie Profile combat"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penanggalan
Yeah, as you get more attacks, the bar will segment. Using an attack will consume one segment, and the time it takes to recharge is affected by the strength of the attacks you use.
Sorry, must've missed this one before!
We chose them based on gender and shape, more or less.
We wanted an equal number of male and female party members, and a variety of heights and body shapes.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
YES. Cool monster reference.
ramoisdead
Member
I want this game. I want it now. Hit the Indiegogo button already! =P
Val-Pro w/ a dose of ATB. Nice.
Isn't she meant to switch between multiple weapons on-the-fly or did I just make that up? It's like, one-idle-fits-all if the former.
Isn't she meant to switch between multiple weapons on-the-fly or did I just make that up? It's like, one-idle-fits-all if the former.
I feel like every time I ask a question about this game I learn something legit new. You've got something special brewing here.
Ah ok thanks for the clarification. With regards to combo attacks, are those all like FG combos (like DHCs) or like Chrono Trigger Dual/Triple techs or somewhere in between? (I'm assuming its like the first but I'm just double checking)
Ah ok that makes sense. Just curious and a good rationale. A shame the viking lady has to wait till the full game but this is a cool crew you've assembled here too.
One more thing: I noticed that all the incarnations kind of glide to and from the enemies in combat rather than actually run like Ajna. Is that because you just haven't created run animations for the others yet or you don't intend to (I assume Ajna of course needs more action frames since she moves around in the overworld).
I think we'll eventually have idle animations for all of the weapons, but it wasn't a priority in this prototype.
She can switch between them on the fly in the exploration mode, and in battle.
Right when you enter a battle you can change weapons for free, but after that you'll have to us an action to change weapons.
Aw man I love your guys work so much. This looks fantastic. Just fill in those unpainted areas with cat smileys like you did before and you're good to go for your KS videos.
Can't wait to see more.
Dimitri LH
Member
Amazing video!
It brought up a question for me though, will it run on toaster powered computers like SkullGirls did?
It brought up a question for me though, will it run on toaster powered computers like SkullGirls did?
Not quite as toasteriffic as Skullgirls, because we won't have a 2D BG option.
But it should be close.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Mucho Gusto. Me encanta!
Messofanego
Banned
Wow, that looks sick!
Was expecting something good, got something even better than expected instead. It looks like it will be a lot of fun, love the instant transition to combat, the ATB twist, and just about everything about the combat.
In VP there is a menu to use items, spells, change equipment, etc, are there any info on how and if it would be implemented?
Really looking forward the Indiegogo campaign.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing more.
toastyToast
Member
Can I just give you guys some money already? Damn
I was already going to back, but now there is no turning back form that decision.
Can I ask you about how loot will work? And equipment in general, too. If that's okay with you.
Weltall Zero
Member
My god does that look great. It's funny how virtually no games have used this battle style aside from Valkyrie Profile and the Namco x Capcom games.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Better art than Tri-Ace's rather crappy looking upcoming new game (which I forget the name of right off the top of my head).
There's loads and loads of RPGs like that where it boggles my mind why nobody else used those kinds of battle systems (Resonance of Fate, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, Growlanser; loads). Valkyrie Profile being one of them.
There's loads and loads of RPGs like that where it boggles my mind why nobody else used those kinds of battle systems (Resonance of Fate, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, Growlanser; loads). Valkyrie Profile being one of them.
For the most part, it won't be.
Spells, Defense, and Super Attacks will all pull from a super meter.
In general, we're trying to streamline everything and keep it fast and flowing well. No need to pause and fiddle with menus, etc.
Currently, the thought is that equipment progression will be tied to exploration.
So as you explore the world, you'll be finding items that will be used to upgrade your weapons and armor at the blacksmith. Instead of, say, Missile Expansions and Energy Tanks.
While we'll be faking it in the prototype with exp., the thought is that we're going to have relatively few weapon and armor upgrades, but we want them to be very significant when you get them. Like, a weapon upgrade would be another attack segment, for example, potentially doubling your damage output.
So it's more about giving you new tools to play with in battle than it is about just increasing stats.
I don't know if it will make it into the prototype, but characters will be able to block by holding down their button while enemies attack. The thought currently is that holding it will consume your super meter, though.
I believe Mike has some ideas for a timed counterattack sort of thing, too. But, again, not sure that will make it into the prototype.
Are you thinking of having hiding spots for discovery only or will there also be rng? Actually, are there going to be random elements to this game or will it be a totally pre established world (no random stages for replayability etc)?
Battle video looks pretty good. I think some of the timing can be sped up a bit, especially for movement animations and the encounters starting, but I'm sure it'll get there. 
I'll weigh in on the blocking idea though - don't like the idea of a blanket constant blocking system even if it drains a meter. Would prefer exclusively to have timed parries. Straight counters sound like it would be a little unbalanced since a good player would be able to counter every attack and hence deal damage even on the enemies' turns. Maybe a perfectly timed parry could give that character an additional attack in the next turn instead?
For specific characters though, I think having block as a unique ability for them would be interesting. Maybe some heavily armored/shielded characters could have a block move which is easier to time and drains the meter, while some other characters could use the same button to do timed evasive dodges instead? Having more unique active skills like that to set characters apart could be fun.
I'll weigh in on the blocking idea though - don't like the idea of a blanket constant blocking system even if it drains a meter. Would prefer exclusively to have timed parries. Straight counters sound like it would be a little unbalanced since a good player would be able to counter every attack and hence deal damage even on the enemies' turns. Maybe a perfectly timed parry could give that character an additional attack in the next turn instead?
For specific characters though, I think having block as a unique ability for them would be interesting. Maybe some heavily armored/shielded characters could have a block move which is easier to time and drains the meter, while some other characters could use the same button to do timed evasive dodges instead? Having more unique active skills like that to set characters apart could be fun.
Hidden things, backtracking, etc. No RNG.
And we have some ideas for a random thing, but it'd likely be for a stretch goal for post-release content. But the core game is intended to be all designed.
Weltall Zero
Member
Add The World Ends With You to that list. Hell, add it to the top.
SolicitorPirate
Member
Hey Ravi, I was just wondering how well integrated the party members will be to the story? I was watching the reveal trailer again and there's a fair number of them. Is the VP inspiration going to continue here with party members having an introduction but generally staying silent during the main story?
PandaPedinte
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Combat looks amazing
Just saw this and wow I am very impressed.
Loving the character design and animations in general.
Right now, we're thinking that they'll probably play out somewhat VP-style initially, but later you'll be able to do quests to resolve their personal stories.
There will probably be some kind of reward, like a new attack or something, once you complete their quests.
Yes... YEEEEEESSS!
Looks amazing. Can't wait to finally get to try this out in person.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
Member
That's the kind of girl I'm into. Long black hair, body exclusively made out of organs, a scorpion tail and of course spits acid/poisons/whatever.
OniBarubary
Banned
Will you fucking let me give you money already? Jesus.
Yeah, we're paying close attention to the feedback from the video.
We likely won't have time to do new animations, but we should be speeding up some aspects of battle.
Yo, that's cool.
It's more like fighting game combos - you can do "team attacks" by letting everyone charge up and then attack at the same time, for combos, etc.
And we haven't made run animations for all of the Incarnations - right now we're going with the dash / glide, but that could change to hops or runs in the final game.
SolicitorPirate
Member
I swear to god you are reading my mind before answering my questions.
Just another VP related question, are there going to be special attacks ala VP's PWS or are you guys going for something different?
Did the monster just lick her vagina?
Yeah, there will be a super bar and super attacks in the final game.
Not sure we're going to have time to get supers into the prototype, but we're trying to.
Herbspiceguy
Member
Awesome design and animation. Is it a reference to "Mystics of Bali"?