Clever Pun
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SonicMegaDrive said:
That's a good point - it will be interesting to see what (if any) move Nintendo makes.
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Lack of 3rd party sales on NDS
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That's a good point - it will be interesting to see what (if any) move Nintendo makes.
SonicMegaDrive
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GreenGlowingGoo said:
Do they still manufacture the regular DS, as far as we know? I know Nintendo discontinued the original GBA a few months after the SP was introduced.
andthebeatgoeson
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Zyid said:
haha, not funny.
Guns N' Poops
Banned
Overseer said:
Check out some previews of Lunar Knights. It's like rebranded Boktai.
Aren't the attach rates on handhelds always much lower than consoles? I think it is the usual case of younger kids who don't spend a lot of money on games, or older people who buy some titles when they are about to go on a trip and will have some time to kill in a car or on a plane. If people are buying only 6 - 10 (if that) handheld games a year, than on a Nintendo system it is more than likely to be Nintendo games that they are buying. Even on Gamecube RE4 didn't sell particular well compared to stuff like Luigi's Mansion.
As for PSP, it will probably depend on how the games are priced. I don't think too many people are going to buy a next-gen Madden for $60 and then a PSP version for $40 (or $50). The only PSP games I've bought at full price were GTA and Syphon Filter and that is because they were of exceptional quality for handheld games.
As for PSP, it will probably depend on how the games are priced. I don't think too many people are going to buy a next-gen Madden for $60 and then a PSP version for $40 (or $50). The only PSP games I've bought at full price were GTA and Syphon Filter and that is because they were of exceptional quality for handheld games.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
omg rite said:
i think he also forgot to mention that Cars is a shit game
Like Fuzzy mentioned it's more like 6/20 not made by Nintendo, and if you look at the actual sales figures of the games you'll see that it's more a case of first party DS games selling like gangbusters than a case of PSP third parties doing much better than DS third parties.Amused_To_Death said:
Chris Michael
Banned
Ranger X said:They aren't supposed to move, DS = third pillar.
Lies.
jj984jj said:
Deceit.
Earthstrike
Member
I think your avatar made your comment even funnier when I read it.MrSardonic said:
Also here are the facts.
Most DS 3rd party games are shit. When these third parties don't see they sales they want materialize and try producing games for the PSP, they will see a parallax shittiness in the quality of their games, and the sales will remain piss-poor.
Now I believe Amused_to_Deaths point was that these license whoring game companies will simply move back to the GBA where the casual sales are, However that will change when pokemon hits.
Konami (almost said capcom:lol ) is producing Portrait of Ruin for the DS. Doesn't this tell you something about the profitability of the first game?
And the DS is also getting Rockman ZX, a new franchise. it simply goes to show that companies believe they can get sales when they produce games that are GOOD.
tanasten
glad to heard people isn't stupid anymore
QFT.
Also, when third parties starts doing good software, then it's when they will sell many copies of the games.
Shit, compare the DS 3rd party library with firts party or with the PSP third party catalog. Tha games on the DS suhcks when the systems is capable to handle great games like Metroid Prime Hunters and Mario Kart DS (tech related)
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
ethelred said:
we already have your response, jarrod. no need to post twice in the same thread
Amused_To_Death said:
No you're missing the point Einstein. Please explain to me the correlation between 19 of the top 20 games being made by Nintendo and a lack of 3rd party sales on NDS. Granted they are likely to sell less due to the increase competition but that doesn't mean that sales wise the DS market is less lucrative than the PSP for 3rd parties. In fact I think it will increasingly become more lucrative and when companies start taking it seriously we'll see Nintendo lose some ground but always dominate regardless. Nintendo drove the platform and cemented it's position as the market leader but now the Wii needs some lovin too.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Fuzzy said:I know I'm missing some numbers but it's more like 6.
Spider-Man: The Movie 2 (launch)
Asphalt: Urban GT (launch)
Zoo Tycoon
Sonic Rush
The Sims 2
Madden NFL 2005 (launch)
And it's third parties making shit. When third parties do make good games they barely market them or don't ship enough (Castlevania).
Correct.
Castlevania, Trauma Center, Phoenix Wright, and Age of Empires have also been openly labeled as surprise successes by their developers.
I think the problem is in third parties making lousy games, an DS having a sort of lousy userbase due to GBA still being alive.
Amused_To_Death
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D3VI0US said:
DS market is already less lucrative than the PSP for 3rd parties, this is a matter of fact.
Take a look at these offerings from the biggest 3rd party publisher, can you point to the most missing platform in that lineup?
Amused_To_Death said:
The most missing platform in that lineup is the Nintendo GameCube. The second most is a tie between Game Boy Advance and DS.
Which is a roundabout way of saying yes, you're right, the DS is absolutely not the most fertile platform for Electronic Arts -- and neither have the DS's predecessors in the handheld and home console arena been very good for that particular publisher.
But even when/if other third parties start to experience better successes on the DS in America (because I agree that right now the overall third party situation in the US is lousy), EA's stuff is still just not going to move nearly as well on the DS as it is the PSP. Their games are objectively better on the PSP, the audience they're selling to is always going to be stronger on the PSP.
Not in Japan, which lately has been a larger portable market than North America. Furthermore, the momentum is favoring the DS even in NA currently as PSP software sales used to be better than NDS software sales period here but the last months it has been pretty much equal and in June the DS dwarfs the PSP in this area. Most of it is still first party sales, but if they start driving the DS hardware like they have in Japan then it's only a matter of time before the third parties follow as well.Amused_To_Death said:
