Regen Health ain't a big deal but no swimming?
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Underworld had one of the best opening levels of any game I've played. Swimming down to that tomb was so good.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the swimming in the CD Tomb Raider trilogy is probably the best I've come across in terms of level scope and intuitive navigation.
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Lara Croft can't swim in the reboot? The hell? + Regen health - 12/15 hr SP
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Hero of Legend
Member
You just made me realize that Core Design and Crystal Dynamics have the same initials.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
The camera sucks to varying degrees in all TR games, but in Anniversary it would often spaz out and switch angles just as I was trying to jump from vertical poles or during wallruns, causing Lara to jump into the abyss and die. Now, Legend and Underworld did this too, but far less than Anniversary did.
Still, it's nowhere near as bad as Angel of Darkness was. That game was truly horrendous.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
So we'll have to protect her from the water
It's pretty good, and has a large and satisfying scale. It has that typical TR thing of seeing where you have to go, but not knowing how to get there--particularly when the goal is way above you. The levels can take a while, and the atmosphere is spot-on. They botched the controls and camera, which keeps it from greatness, though.
There's no reason for CD to have kept swimming out of this. They did three games with swimming exploration that was successfully implemented and wasn't a pain to navigate (even if Underworld should have used the camera system from the earlier two games, for my taste). Probably 1/3 of Underworld was spent under water. So it doesn't make sense not to include it, even if for a few areas.
Tomb Raider is among my favorite franchises... but this just gives off terrible vibes.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The final enemy is a monster made of water who will try to rape her.
I played Anniverary about a year ago, and I don't remember camera issues that caused me to die... in fact, I remember being impressed with how well the camera worked. The only real issue I had was with a pillar that was glitchy and wouldn't register when I jumped on it, but this seems to be across all console versions, so it was just some type of oversight .
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Yeah, I'm not saying either of us are wrong or right, but personally I found Anniversary to have far sloppier controls and camera than Underworld and Legend, but YMMV, obviously.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
in a brown linear corridor made up of QTEs and explosions
You have to overcome western TPS trends in the final level to unlock the actual Tomb Raider game, which is a sequel to Guardian of the Light. They'll be puzzles and water and exploration and ya know, tomb raider stuff.
Continuity
Member
There's a big different between not swimming and can't swim.
So you're telling me a girl who decides to sail across the ocean on a boat thought it's totally fine to not learn to swim beforehand? YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY WATER.
Allow me to protect you from those jokes then, Miss Valentine
So you're telling me a girl who decides to sail across the ocean on a boat thought it's totally fine to not learn to swim beforehand? YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY WATER.
Allow me to protect you from those jokes then, Miss Valentine
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Shame it will be paid DLC!
"For $15 experience the real Tomb Raider, adds new movements like swimming!"
well, I know thats the price I plan to pay for it
Glass Rebel
Member
Maybe they couldn't get swimming right.
Maybe. :I
Maybe. :I
zerokoolpsx
Member
No water levels eh? Maybe we can level up her mutant healing factor instead.
Continuity
Member
Actually, doesn't regenerating health completely go against the concept of her getting constantly brutalized by everything around her? You don't go around showing arts of her covered in blood and mud and do the complete opposite when it comes to gameplay.
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Regen Health ain't a big deal but no swimming?
Underworld had one of the best opening levels of any game I've played. Swimming down to that tomb was so good.
This pic made me buy Underworld.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Seems like an odd choice that she won't have the opportunity to swim, given the location where the game takes place. It almost seems impossible that there won't be situations where you won't be able to jump into water, so I'm assuming it's just insta-death on water contact kind of deal.
Or invisible walls.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Protect her from drowning sine she can't swim.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Regen health made sense for Halo because your playing as a fucking heavily armored robot I don't understand why the industry copied that concept and pasted it onto every game even where it doesnt make sense. If your playing as a human your gonna need health packs. Ironically this was even highlighted in Halo ODST.
JUST A REGEN HEALTH COMICS
I couldn't resist.
I will wait how this all plays out, but with every new piece of info, I keep loosing my faith in this.
sublimit
Banned
I bet it will get 9s from Game informer and Gametrailers.It already looks like they already have a love affair with
SE's pockets
I used to think protect her jokes were funny until I took an arrow to the knee.
Health packs make just about as little sense as regenerating health. Oh I was shot in the chest three times? Better sprint over this box with a red cross on it that's randomly lying around, there, now I'm fine.
Developer like regenerating health because it let's them control the minimum amount of health you have in a given situation.
It prevents you from getting caught in a dead-end situation where you've got 3% health right before a big battle.
The early interviews lead me into false hype. The way they were talking about leaving Lara alone with focus on survival. Regen health is PRETTY big assistance. Fuck that, I'm tired of uncharted level casual stuff.
Now 4A better not pull this shit with Metro Last Light. Pretty much the only atmospheric, survival AAA-quality on the horizon.
Now 4A better not pull this shit with Metro Last Light. Pretty much the only atmospheric, survival AAA-quality on the horizon.
At what point do they become serious about marketing this game? I mean, when do they start coming up with effective ads, slogans and slanted previews to lure people into buying what seems like a terrible mistake?
This feels a bit like the recent Daniel Craig Bond movies - they're not doing Lara Croft gameplay and they're not doing Lara Croft as a character, but they have the name Lara Croft, and somehow the audience has to be lead to believe that they're paying for a Lara Croft game, when in reality Crystal Dynamics couldv'e named this character anything based on the notions of mass appeal, guided experience-style cinematic gameplay, and generic settings and plot points that have been driving this project since day one.
I honestly just don't get the point of this game being labelled Tomb Raider, outside of cynical commercial motivations.
This feels a bit like the recent Daniel Craig Bond movies - they're not doing Lara Croft gameplay and they're not doing Lara Croft as a character, but they have the name Lara Croft, and somehow the audience has to be lead to believe that they're paying for a Lara Croft game, when in reality Crystal Dynamics couldv'e named this character anything based on the notions of mass appeal, guided experience-style cinematic gameplay, and generic settings and plot points that have been driving this project since day one.
I honestly just don't get the point of this game being labelled Tomb Raider, outside of cynical commercial motivations.
In my best dreams I hope this is as good a Tomb Raider game as Craig's movies have been.
AHA-Lambda
Member
The more I hear about this game, the less interested I become =/
Playing it at the EG Expo this year didn't assuage my fears either...
Playing it at the EG Expo this year didn't assuage my fears either...
robotzombie
Member
Oh so like just about every game release of the past 3 years. Bold claim sir!
robotzombie
Member
Well this is what people get for making fun of Uncharted when it came out by saying its just Tomb Raider with a guy.
Ken Masters
Banned
she can swim but not in this game, lazy developing 101
ProfessorMoran
Member
What's wrong with it at the EG Expo?
what are you talking about?!. it's a great thing
all hardcore games have regenerative health.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Now we can make fun of Tomb Raider saying it's just Uncharted with a girl!
I'm fine with that, love the Uncharted games
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I thought the guy with the red hat was supposed to be Ocelot from MGS3 and made myself very confused.
VeryGooster
Banned
I wonder how many linear and constricted corridor caverns and tree brush I'll be squeezing through in Tomb Raider and how much of that will collapse on scripted cue and take control away from me.
Regenerating health means two things:
1. The whole SURVIVAL thing is stupid and pointless
2. There's going to be A LOT of shooting in this game. Like, A LOT. You'll probably be shooting more than you'll be tomb raiding.
Neither of those bode well for the final game.
1. The whole SURVIVAL thing is stupid and pointless
2. There's going to be A LOT of shooting in this game. Like, A LOT. You'll probably be shooting more than you'll be tomb raiding.
Neither of those bode well for the final game.
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