But has it ever been enjoyable? Swimming pretty much always sucks in games. They never get the controls right, and it turns into a chore.
Laziness from the developer is not an excuse for remove swimming in a game like tomb raider.
But has it ever been enjoyable? Swimming pretty much always sucks in games. They never get the controls right, and it turns into a chore.
Yeah, so glad they ditched it and just made a cover shooter instead.
They've talked about hunting, ammo collection, campfires, and leveling up. They haven't really shown much besides the very beginning of the game.
The game team has a BRAND MANAGER. That should tell you things.
I haven't even seen her get guns yet. Is it a cover shooter? I saw her sneak behind some rocks to run away, but I haven't seen her do any cover shooting yet.
Both the artwork for the early concepts, and the final game they made seem to focus on using a bow. The gameplay would likely have been very similar.
Yes and before that concept art and details were released when it was originally going to be a very different project. It was originally about lara marooned on a Japenese island that she could explore. The island was inhabitad by strange creatures from japenese folklore. It was open world with metroidvania elements and it would have had a survival horror slant.
Then somewhere along the way they decided to just make an uncharted clone
Regenerating health? The hell was the point of adding hunting and gathering if you were only going to use it to not heal your wounds?
Why didn't they take the MGS3 model of survival and just amp it up to 11?!
The game design basically wrote itself from the original trailer and concept!
BAH!
So the entire game is Lara being beat to shit?
Thanks, I guess I forgot that one. Looks pretty awesome. Yeah, I guess there's some cover shooting. But it looked like the cover got destroyed almost instantly in a lot of cases. And since she was using a bow against multiple people with machine guns, she had to use the environment to get an advantage such as shooting the lamp, or the barrels.
I don't think she'll be fighting dozens of armed guys in a fortified position very often. Looks like it's kind of a turning point in the story.
And again, she was using the bow almost the whole time, which looks like the artwork in the early concepts to me. I don't see what's so different. The game still has survival elements, only now the enemy is just other people instead of monsters.
Looks good so far. Way better than most of the recent Tomb Raider games. I'd like more exploration, so maybe they can get into that kind of thing more if they get to a sequel. After all, by the end of this she'd probably be the old Laura that most remember, with the mansion and focus on tombs, etc. I don't get why everyone's bitching so much about the tiniest things before they've even tried it.
Regenerating health? The hell was the point of adding hunting and gathering if you were only going to use it to not heal your wounds?
Well, am actually scared of that game now.
I REALLY fear now that they will reboot this thing changing Lara completely and that she will become some stupid frail women in need of protection. The worse you can do about a female hero and basically what killed Metroid Other M from being anything resembling a good game. Can't swim? come the fuck on. I hope a man will teach her at some point during the game heh? lol
Seriously, I am prepared to anything now. 2012 wow. Maybe the end of world should come afterall. lol
Uncharted 3 had some pretty awesome swimming segmentsBut has it ever been enjoyable? Swimming pretty much always sucks in games. They never get the controls right, and it turns into a chore.
I'm looking forward to this. Hope it turns out well. February right? Unfortunately for Tomb Raider February already belongs to another game for me... Guess I'll be waiting until it drops in price.
It takes place on an island. Why do you want her to swim? Are you going to swim out to the sea for miles and miles until you die? I don't see the point.
Well, am actually scared of that game now.
I REALLY fear now that they will reboot this thing changing Lara completely and that she will become some stupid frail women in need of protection. The worse you can do about a female hero and basically what killed Metroid Other M from being anything resembling a good game. Can't swim? come the fuck on. I hope a man will teach her at some point during the game heh? lol
Seriously, I am prepared to anything now. 2012 wow. Maybe the end of world should come afterall. lol
I REALLY fear now that they will reboot this thing changing Lara completely and that she will become some stupid frail women in need of protection.
I'd like more exploration too. But most of the posters here are ignoring everything that looks amazing about this game, and focusing on only the bad. We don't really know how much exploration the game has yet, and we don't really know what the puzzles will be like.That video + heavier emphasis on story + no swimming + 12 hours campaign(which means 8 hours campaign), makes for a worrysome picture, if you're a Tomb Raider fan.
Ofcourse, it may end up being a decent to good game in its own right, just not a Tomb Raider.
From since i can remember, all the fans asked from the franchise was: Less guns/combat, more exploration.
This is, literally, the opposite of that.
She just massacred a half dozen armed guys in the video linked a few posts back, stabbing one in the throat pretty brutally.
"stupid frail woman in need of protection." I don't see it.
Probably about 8-10 hours.12-15 hours, hope that's about right.
Maybe 5+ hours with DLC?
It takes place on an island. Why do you want her to swim? Are you going to swim out to the sea for miles and miles until you die? I don't see the point.
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You do know that many islands have inland bodies of water correct? Or do you just see them as solid land?
I didn't say it made sense...but from his wording, that's what it sort of implies.Which makes sense, considering she's shipwrecked on AN ISLAND.
Every type of land has inland bodies of water. People were implying that because its an island, OF COURSE she would swim. The only distinguishing factor in an island is that its surrounded by water. So he was right in pointing out that its mostly pointless to swim in the ocean surrounding an island.
Maybe you have to level her up to make her swim
No but I could shoot guns and ride horses. You know things cowboys do.you couldn't swim in Red Dead too. No one cared.
But I had fun reading this thread.
you couldn't swim in Red Dead too. No one cared.
But I had fun reading this thread.
you couldn't swim in Red Dead too. No one cared.
But I had fun reading this thread.
The regenerative health is... eh, par for the course.