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Laura Dale: Nintendo Switchs Right Joy-Con Offers IR Pointer Functionality
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Nightbringer
Don´t hit me for my bad english plase
My words exactly!
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Smiles and Cries
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LuigiBlood
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I just noticed but... only Joy-Con R has the IR sensor (if it is one).
For some reason, it's not on Joy-Con L, quite clearly.
(I dunno if anybody else noticed that)
For some reason, it's not on Joy-Con L, quite clearly.
(I dunno if anybody else noticed that)
That, and the scene with the guy sitting in the park is the only time you can clearly see the unit at the bottom where it looks like there is a USB port.
There are also two sets of holes on the bottom, one of the sets are most likely connectors that charge the unit when docked and the other set is to slot the unit into the dock.
Edit: I am talking about the Switch UNIT, not the Joy-Cons.
LuigiBlood
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I don't think you can clearly see a USB port there. It seems a bit larger than that (look at the 3rd pic)
EDIT: and when I look at the video
When you look at it frame by frame, it doesn't look like a hole at all with that kind of shading.
LuigiBlood
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Well, if it's USB (which to me it doesn't, I've edited my post just now about it), what's the use of it?
To charge the unit so you can play it as a portable when you are not using the dock. lol
LuigiBlood
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That doesn't make any sense, why plug to the Joy-Con instead of the actual system?
I think we are talking about 2 different things. Woops lol sorry.
I am talking about the Switch unit, not the Joy-Cons. I was trying to point out other hidden things instead of the IR on the bottom right Joy-Con.
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Anyway, another thing I noticed is the lack of an SD Card slot. This suggests that the casing on the back should be removable, because that's where you'll be able to slot in the Micro SD Card just like with the New 3DS XL.
FunkyDealer
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I believe he's talking about the holes on the main unit. (?)
I hope Nintendo will use USB Type-C, but after the annoying proprietary 3DS and Wii U chargers.... I'm not holding my breath.
LuigiBlood
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Well why weren't you more obvious? Why quoting my post and then talking about something I wasn't even pointing out?
Refreshment.01
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EDIT: You were talking about the Swich main body? That doesn't go with the thread of the conversation... how confusing XD
You are confused... i meant the tread of discusion you were having with LUIGIBLOOD, he was clearly talking about the Joycons and you started talking about the Switch itself. Look at Luigi's reply.
This needs to be adressed in every page. Dale's rumor talk about emulating single touch function of the touchscreen with the Joycon IR sensor.
When you invert/flip the right Joycon to use the IR sensor the other inputs in the controller are somewhat compromised. So using IR poitning for more complex console games might be hard to implement. However, this doesn't rule out the posibility of using Gyroscopic aiming for a game like RE4, this way the user uses the Joycons in their normal orientation.
i just think how surreal it is to watch Nintendo resurrecting IR pointing again with an implementation that is more limited and not so well executed as an 2006 device. XD
I don't think you can clearly see a USB port there. It seems a bit larger than that (look at the 3rd pic)
EDIT: and when I look at the video
When you look at it frame by frame, it doesn't look like a hole at all with that kind of shading.
This is an interesting screengrab. Might not be just a wriststrap-loop after all.
TheCongressman1
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I don't think you can clearly see a USB port there. It seems a bit larger than that (look at the 3rd pic)
EDIT: and when I look at the video
When you look at it frame by frame, it doesn't look like a hole at all with that kind of shading.
Yep, that's a reflection. Looks just like IR plastic on wiimote.
How dumb. I can't wait for all the confused posts about how they can't get their pointer to work because they don't have it turned around, which is an honest mistake of course.
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Obviously if I went to make a thread that was to look for hidden things on the Switch it would get closed.
This is the only relevant thread because it's looking at hidden things on the Switch and you can see how difficult it is to get a look at the unit from all angles.
gingerbeardman
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Amen.
Wii VC
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I don't think you can clearly see a USB port there. It seems a bit larger than that (look at the 3rd pic)
EDIT: and when I look at the video
When you look at it frame by frame, it doesn't look like a hole at all with that kind of shading.
ENHANCE!
lukeskymac
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This would be huge.
User Name Here
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Yeah, it kind of goes without saying, but damn ... how will Nintendo milk this lol? It is kinda cool though. I wouldn't mind picking an attachement for smash bros.
My mistake, I guess I wasn't that obvious including my wording when I was referring to the main body of the Switch as the unit.
While I get where you're coming from, I would personally prefer the IR pointer because it would make Wii Virtual Console a reality. I think a major hidden selling point of the Switch is the potential to play almost all of Nintendo's backlog on the go (I think Laura or someone mentioned analog triggers as well so Gamecube games would be covered).
User Name Here
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What if they made Joycon....
Amiibos!
Whoa....
It would also allow them to offer out-of-the-box VC support for every console up to Wii (provided emulation is feasible, but if they manage to get a couple of A72 cores in there I don't see why it wouldn't be).
I mean, how else are they gonna replicate the touchscreen while the Switch is docked?
As long as they don't force into games and use it only where it makes sense, I don't see an issue.
Has this been discussed at all? I was poring over the trailer (nearly frame by frame) looking for anything we have missed
And got a good shot of the joycon grip. It appears the controllers attach via a 4 pin connector.
Those are most likely 2 data lines, and positive and negative power.
Yep, I'm absolutely sure it's only to replicate the touch-screen functionnality when docked.
It doesn't matter if you can't press any button while holding the right Joy-Con upside down, because if you use the touch-screen, you can't press any button with your right hand while touching the screen anyways. So basically, when you hold the Joy-Con upside down to use the pointer, the buttons will most likely be deactivated. If some games need you to use the right Joy-Con joystick while using the pointer, that would bring a new problem: the touch-screen itself, as you cannot use that joystick (or any other button) while touching the screen. The purpose is quite simple: to give you the SAME controls and/or gameplay as if it is docked or not. That's a very important thing to remember. You should be able to do the exact same things docked or on the go.
So yeah, I'm confident this will be useful in games like Super Mario Maker where you gotta pick and drag items on the screen or to navigate through the OS... But for FPS or games like Pikmin where it needs more than just a pointer? Forget about it or you'll be disapointed.
It doesn't matter if you can't press any button while holding the right Joy-Con upside down, because if you use the touch-screen, you can't press any button with your right hand while touching the screen anyways. So basically, when you hold the Joy-Con upside down to use the pointer, the buttons will most likely be deactivated. If some games need you to use the right Joy-Con joystick while using the pointer, that would bring a new problem: the touch-screen itself, as you cannot use that joystick (or any other button) while touching the screen. The purpose is quite simple: to give you the SAME controls and/or gameplay as if it is docked or not. That's a very important thing to remember. You should be able to do the exact same things docked or on the go.
So yeah, I'm confident this will be useful in games like Super Mario Maker where you gotta pick and drag items on the screen or to navigate through the OS... But for FPS or games like Pikmin where it needs more than just a pointer? Forget about it or you'll be disapointed.
JoshuaJSlone
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No offense, but that is part of the story this thread is based on.
I think managing to do almost everything they did portably and at home in the past decade at once is embracing what the Switch is.Nibel said:
Because the joycons (and the rest of the system) are like half as thick as the wiimote and there are already two shoulder buttons at the top of each. There's not room left for the pointer camera up there. Though yeah, I kind of wish they'd found a decent design with both shoulders being lower while the very top was the camera.hatchx said:
UnemployedVillain
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Well they're suppose to mirror the wiimote and nunchuck
Geez, seems most of GAF already forgot that the "sensor bar" is just two LEDs. Including it on the system incurs barely no extra costs and you can buy/build one to match your living room decoration without having to place the dock near your tv.
Even if the joy con doesn't act as a wiimote, the Switch will most likely support wiimotes since it probably already uses bluetooth for the joy cons, for the eventual Wii VC.
Even if the joy con doesn't act as a wiimote, the Switch will most likely support wiimotes since it probably already uses bluetooth for the joy cons, for the eventual Wii VC.
Skittzo0413
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Notice the black spot on the bottom right but not the left?
(please ignore the map I didn't add that was just going off of someone else screencap edit)
Nice find.
One thing which is interesting to me in an engineering way is the compromise Nintendo seemingly had to make here. Obviously they'd rather have the IR pointer on the front end of the joycon, similarly to a wiimote, but clearly the shoulder and trigger buttons take up too much space to allow for an IR sensor window.
But why can't the window be smaller? An IR sensor component in the guts of the handheld can be quite small. It could be that the shoulder and trigger components take up too much space inside of the housing, but I think it's more likely that the IR window needs to be a certain size to get an accurate enough reading of the IR light emitted from the Switch/sensor bar.
Just something I found interesting anyway.
Stone Ocean
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Yeah, that definitely seems like IR.Notice the black spot on the bottom right but not the left?
(please ignore the map I didn't add that was just going off of someone else screencap edit)
Also seems like the bottom part of the main body has 3 different ports?
TheDinoman
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I think it's criminal that Star Fox Zero didn't utilize the Wiimote at all. I remember for years thinking how cool it would be if Nintendo brought back Star Fox and put it on the Wii where they could use the Wiimote's IR pointer to fire at shit. It would of been perfect. Instead, when they brought it back for Wii U, they shoehorned in and forced the shitty Gamepad controls down our throats. Disgraceful.