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[LEAK] PlayStation Monthly Active Users as of Feb 2023: PS3 - 1.9M; PS4 - 70.3M; PS5: 37.1M
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Wolfpact1983
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It means that there is still a giant untapped market for PS5 console sales.
Killjoy-NL
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Wonder how much of that is related to the covid pandemic and lockdowns.
I can imagine that the pandemic inflated numbers across the board due to people being stuck at home.
(Goes for any live-service, btw)
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Means money is still to be made with the older generations 
Sony needs to offer some type of trade up promotion or incentives *cough*-PS3 backwards compatibility- for those generations.
Sony needs to offer some type of trade up promotion or incentives *cough*-PS3 backwards compatibility- for those generations.
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tommib
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I’m still buying games on the PSN store. Got Killer is Dead and Puppeteer this year. I hope my PS3 never dies.
Also, PS5 is still so far from PS4 number of active users. Surprised Spider-Man 2 was not cross-gen taking into account their sales expectations.
Mr Moose
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Subs? This is MAU. They wish they had 108M subs.
T-Cake
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So it is! My bad.
Skifi28
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I just changed my desk setup and I now have room to have mine always connected, so many stuff you can't play anywhere else. Well, I suppose there's always emulation, but I'd rather have original hardware if I can.
How does buying on the PS3 store work? Can you buy directly or do you need to put credits from a modern platform and use those?
Mr Hyde
Gold Member
Me too. Hooked up my PS3 a couple of months ago and started buying a lot of games on the store out of fear when Sony threatened to close it. PS3 has a great library of games that are still stuck on the console. It also has a far better BC support with PS1 and PS2 than PS4 and 5 has. I love my PS3. Probably the best console Sony has made, although PS5 is pretty damn good too.
tommib
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You do need to put money on your wallet though the PS5. At least, that’s how I’m doing it.
tommib
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Oh, yeah. I have a US account and have classics like PS1 Silent Hill, Tomb Raider and Resident Evil 2 and I play them like god intended. I never tried using the Blu-ray player for old PS1 games.
Mr Hyde
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I tried RPSC3 but it doesn't work that great with a lot of the software. Lots of graphical issues such as flickering and weird artifacts. Frame rate can be all over the place too. Games that use sixaxis, such as Folklore, is a pain in the ass to play and not really worth the effort. Some games work flawlessly but a majority of the ones I tried didn't, unfortunately. Original hardware is still the best bet when it comes to PS3, imo.
wvnative
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you have to load a gift card on your ps4 or ps5, the funds will be there on ps3. credit cards no longer work.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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I dont know and i dont care. When i play games, and new games on my console i'am happy.
Can ask MS they know all about MAU, engagement, hours played , GamePass users and other things they use as measering point for Xbox
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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That's probably when a gaming sub service could actually be sustainable for Day 1 AAA games while still having big profit margins.
BouncyFrag
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Still use my ps3 for ps2 jrpgs, God of War Collection, and Driver San Francisco.
mitch1971
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March Climber
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Thank you to the almost 2 million PS3 users for keeping PSN servers alive on that console.
Even if it's nostalgia driving the wheel, keep it up.
Even if it's nostalgia driving the wheel, keep it up.
ChuckeRearmed
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I wonder why there are spikes on january and february? holidays I guess?
And no wonder people are still making PS4 games. Also it seems PS5 sales are essentially the people who used to have PS4.
And no wonder people are still making PS4 games. Also it seems PS5 sales are essentially the people who used to have PS4.
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Crispy Gamer
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Those PS3 numbers are shocking, I'm still playing my ps2 got an hdmi connector and hdd full of games 
play it more than my switch I think I'll always be a retro gamer it makes me appreciate the graphics of current gen I just wish sony had full hardware backwards compatibility on PS5 they would make a killing on the catalog.
play it more than my switch I think I'll always be a retro gamer it makes me appreciate the graphics of current gen I just wish sony had full hardware backwards compatibility on PS5 they would make a killing on the catalog.
StreetsofBeige
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DarthPutin
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IIRC PlayStation said that they have like 30% new users who never had PS4. But I don't remember exact figures, there was also something similar with XSS IIRC, so I might mix up numbers.
ChuckeRearmed
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They did mention that, but those are basically those who were lost post Xbox One era and did not buy Xbox Series (basically just some marketshare from Xbox), but this MAU numbers show that by and large those console sales don't change much for Sony.
I think there was a chart somewhere recently with PS4, PS5, Xbox One and XBS and basically XS selling less that XBO matched with the PS selling more. But now that we have this chart - MAU was it did not change anything.
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jm89
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These numbers are from February 2023 so the number of ps5s out in the wild would have been lower then 40 million.
38.4 was the number of ps5s shipped according to their fy 2022 report in April.
The spikes are in December and January, not January and February.
February is when the spike wears away.
Which is why the dude comparing the latest February against a January month is pointless.
Spyxos
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What am i looking at?
StreetsofBeige
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Recap of OPs chart I did in excel.
In that two year gap, their PS hardware MAU trend is flat (gains in PS5 just equal losses to PS3/PS4). All the gains in MAU are non-console users, so PC or any device that can play PS games without being a Playstation system.
No wonder Sony is big into ports, and the thread about expanding PS sub plans to stream on more devices.
ChuckeRearmed
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Jan 21 there were 6m PS3, 102m PS4, 6m PS5 people using PSN. Jan 23 there are 2m PS3, 76m PS4 and 36m PS5 using PSN. Overall MAU did not change - just shuffled a little bit. It is fascinating.
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Ronin_7
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Sushi_Combo
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Switched out the HDD to an SSD and downloaded a ton of games from my purchase list. The system is still functional and I seriously miss the XMB layout from this era.
Kerotan
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They have sold a lot of ps5 in the 10 months since this.
PS3 bros stand up! Played like 20 game's in mine this past year.
Mr Hyde
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I did the same! Just installed a 1tb Kingston SSD. UI and the shop feels so much faster and fluid. Load times in games are shaved off a couple of seconds too, which is also a nice bonus. PS3 feels modern again
simpatico
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PS5 barely mustering half of the PS4 base midway through the Gen?
Was it like this with PS3 midway through the PS4 Gen? This will always been remembered as the most impotent console generation. Might have been bad enough to kill the medium. Not gaming, but physical consoles and defined gens.
Was it like this with PS3 midway through the PS4 Gen? This will always been remembered as the most impotent console generation. Might have been bad enough to kill the medium. Not gaming, but physical consoles and defined gens.
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Some day I'll be an 80 year old man and my ps3 slim will still be hooked up to a screen and the grandkids will love it.
LordOcidax
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For comparison:
Steam 120.3 Million MAU (Oct 2023)
Xbox: 120 Million MAU (Jan 2023)
Nintendo Switch: 116 Million MAU (July 2023)
Playstation: 109.3 Million MAU(Feb 2023)
Steam 120.3 Million MAU (Oct 2023)
Xbox: 120 Million MAU (Jan 2023)
Nintendo Switch: 116 Million MAU (July 2023)
Playstation: 109.3 Million MAU(Feb 2023)
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The Fuzz damn you!
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Don’t know about the PS3 drop-off compared to PS4, but PS5 is tracking roughly inline with PS4 launch-aligned total sales (one week behind) and substantially ahead on comparative monthly sales.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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God Steam is a behemoth compared to Playstation now, a far Cry from the PS2 and PS3 eras. Steam monthly active users only continues to increase, back in the day it was a feat to reach 10 million MAUs but not by bit Steam has only grown and now it has north of 120mil. I don't see Playstation ever catching up because every new console generation they start at 0.
StreetsofBeige
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Console user base for MS/Sony/Nintendo collectively hasn't grown. It actually peaked during the 360/Wii/PS3/handheld days. Dropped and then leveled off. It's basically gamers just trading up to new hardware or swapping platforms.
Check my excel chart recap I did earlier today. In two years, PS3/PS4/PS5 total MAU hasnt changed. It's just swapped up to Ps5.
I think only PC and mobile user base are truly growing in the industry.
Thats not to say money doesn't trend up. Every platform can amp up on mtx or higher prices or sub plan fees etc.... But console hardware unit base hasn't zoomed up the charts with gaming dollar revenue.