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[LEAK] Sony expresses concern about competition from Microsoft in internal communication
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Heisenberg007
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"may potentially" and "in 2027".
lol no.
We can cross that bridge if or when it comes to that. Tweets like these are usually to drum up some negativity and get engagements going.
PropellerEar
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343 has been the biggest source of Halo Infinite lies.
DenchDeckard
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I was more tagging the original poster.
The halo rumour came from a random German podcast and people just ran with it. It was debunked yet people still share it like its reality. Stinkles was high up at 343i and debunked it. So, it's pretty much proven to be false.
Mr Moose
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Is it showing as white/bunch of numbers and letters? If so, same to me lol. You can right click them and "Open image in new tab".
DenchDeckard
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What? - Good response lol
PropellerEar
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DenchDeckard
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Not a lie - lol
Do you honestly believe Halo infinite cost 500 million to develop? lol
PropellerEar
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Are you Drunk?
Discuss that in the Dev cost thread,not in this one.
DenchDeckard
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I cant keep up with all these threads and I am not sure why my browser has linked that here when I quoted and replied to the original thread...strange.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Not that I don't believe you but are we sure the slide is fake? The two images in my OP are taken from this gamingleaks megathread, specifically this comment:True.
But as some folks pointed out elsewhere, it is clearly a fake. If you look at the bottom-right corner, you can see Insomniac's faded logo on the images.Someone took the Insomniac's leaked slide, faded the logo but botched the job, and added this text.
This slide, if real, would have no business of having the Insomniac logo on it, as it'd be a matter of top SIE leadership.
P.S. I've no idea why this thread is still going onThick Thighs Save Lives
PropellerEar
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DenchDeckard
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calm down
hahaha, if anything, more just error when posting on forums in between doing work.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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They're most likely talking about this internal insomanic slide where they're deliberating if they should split Spider-Man 3 into 2 separate releases (e.g. Part 1 in Holiday 2027 and Part 2 the following year) with each one of them costing $50. Then a year later once both SM3 Parts are out they'll be launching a bundle deal for $60. The tweet seems FUD to me since we've already gotten these type of releases in the past (e.g. Starcraft II was split into 3 parts).
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MAX PAYMENT
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Delusional Neogaf: "xbox is a non competitor."
Punished Miku
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I cancelled mine this January for the 1st time in 6 years. Likely never going back to it.
00_Zer0
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I am a PC and Switch only gamer. I know how dirty Nintendo plays with BC and digital libraries so when push comes to shove and Nintendo inevitably screws their digital eco system up I will hack the Switch and dump my purchases on PC. I am not much of a handheld player, but love a lot of Nintendo exclusives. There is also a lot of Japanese or console exclusive games from third parties on Switch so I get them there....everything else I get on PC.
S0ULZB0URNE
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So COD is only till 2027 like I thought I read...
twilo99
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Microsoft owns Battle.net, Steam takes a 30% cut..
StealthGoblin
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And water makes things wet. I'd have been more surprised if they weren't saying this.
Spyxos
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That's not quite true, Bungie's purchase is 100% a reaction to Activision acquisition.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Yikes! this crusade of yours is not only unhealthy but its toxic.Absolutely wild that this leaks after days of Sony fans telling us all that Microsoft is dead and has no chance in gaming and needs to release all of their games on Playstation, like tomorrow....
<Meanwhile at Sony HQ
Flutta
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I don't believe it will ever happen. Sony knows full well that the sales of its games will decrease significantly with that price. They might bundle some old games with new releases to achieve that price point or like what they're doing with the deluxe crap. Either way. Going from 70$ -> 100$ in one go is not a smart business move you need to gradually increase it. It's biz 101. These people prob didn't understand what they were reading.
Look up the word competitor and then apply it to the state of today's Xbox in the console market and then come back here and tell us your conclusion.
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skit_data
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The announcement of Sony buying Bungie was made 13 days after the announcement of MS buying Activision, seems like a little bit too fast of a turnaround for stuff like this.
I think it was more a reaction to the Zenimax purchase.
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twilo99
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There was very little need for them to do that with CoD and FIFA providing the multiplayer experience on PlayStation, and really, nothing has changed so no need to panic on that front for a while.
Famipan
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Yeah, I got very into COD Mobile recently and it's a very strong competitive and casual mobile shooter supporting both mobile and casting the game to a TV and play with controller. It surprised ATVI themselves when it reached success and it's still going strong since 2018.
Available for anyone with a smartphone; no online costs; not much gained from IAP since it's pretty well-balanced and lots of skins just make it dip frames. But the cheapest IAP is not too expensive which I find a good way in earning sales through, compared to other F2P games with expensive/premium IAP-fees.
I think if Sony wants to gain to earn cash on the F2P-market, they should develop a F2P-game for smartphones and keep the premium single player experience on PS. And add a super cheap PS+ tier for only online play for all games including F2P-games which then would need PS+ to work online at all.
"When everyone PAYS, we all win"
Available for anyone with a smartphone; no online costs; not much gained from IAP since it's pretty well-balanced and lots of skins just make it dip frames. But the cheapest IAP is not too expensive which I find a good way in earning sales through, compared to other F2P games with expensive/premium IAP-fees.
I think if Sony wants to gain to earn cash on the F2P-market, they should develop a F2P-game for smartphones and keep the premium single player experience on PS. And add a super cheap PS+ tier for only online play for all games including F2P-games which then would need PS+ to work online at all.
"When everyone PAYS, we all win"
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SmokedMeat
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Outdated pillars indeed.
Day one PC ports need to happen.
Day one PC ports need to happen.
IllegalLemon
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An entire repository filled with goodies literally leaked online following the breach. Surely some deluded fanboy who got access to it must have created some photoshopped slide and snuck it in there to stir the pot and attempt to give it validity(since the entire file dump was from Sony servers). I mean look at the slide itself and its content, it literally looks like it was put together by a 10 year in a basement with lots of spare time in the hand. Corporate slides look a lot more professional than that and not like something that was put together in a hurry. Also PostUp is a fanboy so, best keep that in mind. He'll latch onto anything negative on Playstation he can find, even info that has no validity to it.
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Spyxos
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Could also have been the reaction to Bethesda's purchase. Even though that would be very late. But they certainly knew about the purchase earlier than we did.
twilo99
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Which of their games would appeal to a PC audience? I can certainly see GT selling well on Windows, but what else?
Xion_Stellar
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So what's the idea here then? They tried VR2 already, they are starting to release in PC now, they have a Game pass like streaming software with PS Plus Premium (except no day one releases), they tried and failed to get their GaaS plans off the ground.
So what's left to do? Go back to the handheld market and make a PSP 3? Recognizing that they need something else if fine but I don't see where they go from here.
So what's left to do? Go back to the handheld market and make a PSP 3? Recognizing that they need something else if fine but I don't see where they go from here.
Killjoy-NL
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Honestly, you both aren't wrong.
But this has been discussed to death already, so this entire thread could be redirected to any ABK-deal or Sony/GaaS topic.
Regginator
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It seems the commies were right after all. Capitalism will always lead to monopolization of an industry. We've seen this happen in many industries before, from news media to entertainment, and now video games too. At first it always starts with healthy competitions and innovation, but then inevitably the big ones always acquire the smaller ones, and since to stagnate is to fall behind, you either roll with that endless acquisitions and infinite growth, or you lose the money game and get swallowed up by others. Government oversight and other regulations only postpone the inevitable. Xbox is absolutely massive now with Zenimax and ABK. Sony has to follow suit now or stagnate into irrelevance. They don't have enough self-developed content and capacity to be self-sufficient, in a way that Nintendo is for example.
The only solution is uprooting the current system, a world-wide proletarian revolution. I'm sorry for ever having doubted you, daddy Marx.
The only solution is uprooting the current system, a world-wide proletarian revolution. I'm sorry for ever having doubted you, daddy Marx.
Punished Miku
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It seems the commies were right after all. Capitalism will always lead to monopolization of an industry. We've seen this happen in many industries before, from news media to entertainment, and now video games too. At first it always starts with healthy competitions and innovation, but then inevitably the big ones always acquire the smaller ones, and since to stagnate is to fall behind, you either roll with that endless acquisitions and infinite growth, or you lose the money game and get swallowed up by others. Government oversight and other regulations only postpone the inevitable. Xbox is absolutely massive now with Zenimax and ABK. Sony has to follow suit now or stagnate into irrelevance. They don't have enough self-developed content and capacity to be self-sufficient, in a way that Nintendo is for example.
The only solution is uprooting the current system, a world-wide proletarian revolution. I'm sorry for ever having doubted you, daddy Marx.
ChorizoPicozo
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PR disaster for sony. Xbox warriors got Christmas early.
sony better be super aggressive next year.
sony better be super aggressive next year.
Rosoboy19
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I'm sure Sony is concerned about behemoth MS acquisitions, but even the language on these slides seem fake. There is no way a Sony presentation would mention "Microsoft" so many times in a few bullet points, it would make them look paranoid and obsessed (probably the goal of these fake slides).
Although…Intel did that very thing recently with AMD mentions in a leaked presentation, according to Steve at GN. Maybe these corporate types are more paranoid than I realize,
Although…Intel did that very thing recently with AMD mentions in a leaked presentation, according to Steve at GN. Maybe these corporate types are more paranoid than I realize,
Woopah
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Nintendo is 3rd in terms of revenue but 1st in terms of profit. And a big reason for that is Sony/Microsoft reporting digital revenue in a different way to Nintendo.
Robb
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Ah, that makes more sense then.
RickMasters
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So your gonna pretend there wasn't an army of PS "gaffers" in there too? Talking about how the ABK acquisition won't effect Sony and how MS are so desperate they bought a publisher? Some of you were even implying if the deal don't go through Xbox was doomed and Phil will be sacked…..
You are gonna pretend PS fans were not spreading that narrative in that thread?…
It's funny because I remember some of you acting like Jim Ryan was gonna ' save the day'….. look how that worked out for him…..
Roxkis_ii
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I was laughing at the pc day one post thinking to myself "Why would Sony give up 30% of their game sales to Steam or Epic and devalue their console by releasing day one on PC?"
If Sony had their own store front it would make a little more sense, but as long as Playstation hardware is making any profit, I doubt Sony would release non multiplayer games day and date on PC. If their not doing day and date games, I don't see much use in having their own store front. It doesn't seem to be doing Epic any favors according to recent news.
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RickMasters
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You want receipts? Just go back and look at some of the comments in that thread.I was laughing at the pc day one post thinking to myself "Why would Sony give up 30% of their game sales to Steam or Epic and devalue their console by releasing day one on PC?"
If Sony had their own store front it would make a little more sense, but as long as Playstation hardware is making any profit, I doubt Sony would release non multiplayer games day and date on PC. If their not doing day and date games, I don't see much use in having their own store front. It doesn't seem to be doing Epic any favors according to recent news.
Some of you were sure it was dead deal. You forget the part where Jim said bluntly " I just want to block the deal"……. Like he had any say in the matter?
You'll get all the receipts you are looking for in that thread.
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