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Question: It has been suggested to me that Triple Sec in mixed drinks can be substituted for Grand Marnier. Is it worth it at all to shell out for Grand Marnier?
 
TheRagnCajun said:
Question: It has been suggested to me that Triple Sec in mixed drinks can be substituted for Grand Marnier. Is it worth it at all to shell out for Grand Marnier?

It will do the deed if you are mixing it and it isn't the primary flavoring in the bev. Grand Marnier is so fucking expensive but it's very delicious.
 
If I'm having a large get together and we decide not to drink beer, I'll substitute Even Williams for Jack Daniels. I think it tastes great for half the price.

Still, nothing's better than Jack.

European GAF: Is Jack Daniels as popular over there as it is here? How much does it cost over there?
 
TheRagnCajun said:
Question: It has been suggested to me that Triple Sec in mixed drinks can be substituted for Grand Marnier. Is it worth it at all to shell out for Grand Marnier?

Triple Sec is basically orange liqueur. Grand Marnier is cognac and orange liqueur. They're not exactly the same thing. Drink some cognac and some grand marnier and some triple sec (buy small bottles of each?) and decide what you think.
 
Sklorenz said:
Guess I should try Smirnoff again, then. I haven't tried it in years, but I don't remember liking it. That could be a fabricated memory based on its lower price and high popularity, though.



It is a bourbon in most every respect, but it is made in Tennessee, so it is not a bourbon. It is refers to itself as "Tennessee whiskey"

Tennessee sour mash whiskey.

<- From Kentucky
 
HiResDes said:
Yes I've been telling people that Smirnoff is good for years, but everyone always writes it off because it's so easy to find or because everyone knows about it.
You're better off saving $5 and buying Burnetts. Hell even Taaka is better than Smirnoff. :lol @ their "Triple Distilled" campaign when ALL vodka is triple distilled.
 
Sklorenz said:
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Kraken rum is on par with Sailor Jerry's, and cheaper. And obviously way better than Captain Morgan's shitty stuff.



In my experience, people either really enjoy it or hate it. I hate it, but I also hate most vodkas and I hate when my tea is sweetened, so go figure :P

I've found Kraken to have a heavier taste than Sailor Jerry's. It's alright, but price wise, it's on par with Sailor Jerry's, at least in my area.
 
TheRagnCajun said:
Question: It has been suggested to me that Triple Sec in mixed drinks can be substituted for Grand Marnier. Is it worth it at all to shell out for Grand Marnier?
Unless you're drinking it straight or your cocktail calls for >50% Orange Liqueur, then just go with Triple Sec, if you don't want to seem like a cheapskate, just get Patron Citronage or Cointreau.
 
If you're going to recommend EW Black, at least give George Dickel #8 a try. Same shit as JD but a bit cheaper and it's actually maple filtered (which is what makes JD so characteristic).
 
As someone who has inhaled about 1000 gallons of margaritas in his time, I can tell you that Grand Marnier is MUCH better than Triple Sec.


I'm more of a wine drinker now a days, but I find Fetzer's Riesling as good as any expensive alternative I have had. It's only 9 dollars a bottle and tastes just as good as the 20-30 dollar varieties.
 
Triple Sec is a good replacement for Cointreau, which is also hella expensive, but I don't know about Grand Marnier. I think it would be lacking.
 
Wthermans said:
You're better off saving $5 and buying Burnetts. Hell even Taaka is better than Smirnoff. :lol @ their "Triple Distilled" campaign when ALL vodka is triple distilled.
Smirnoff is one of the best dude...Critics even seem to back me.
 
ToxicAdam said:
As someone who has inhaled about 1000 gallons of margaritas in his time, I can tell you that Grand Marnier is MUCH better than Triple Sec.


I'm more of a wine drinker now a days, but I find Fetzer's Riesling as good as any expensive alternative I have had. It's only 9 dollars a bottle and tastes just as good as the 20-30 dollar varieties.
Not sure where you're from @ $9/bottle you're better off paying a buck more and getting Chateau St. Michelle's line of Rieslings. If you want a really good Riesling, check out the Chat. St. Michelle/Dr. Loosen collaboration Eroica. It runs $20-25/bottle here, but it's easily the best Riesling I've found in stores.
 
Svedka is my cheap vodka brand of choice...I'm not much of a vodka drinker though...it saves me money that I can spend on good gin and whiskey.
 
HiResDes said:
Smirnoff is one of the best dude...Critics even seem to back me.
You mean critics that are routinely paid off by manufacturers/distributors in order to have shelf-talkers that advertise their magazine/website in every liquor store in the country? Rule of thumb for liquor....if it's from Diageo, there's going to be a cheaper, higher quality alternative out there. Diageo pads their bottom line so much due to their advertising costs that the quality of their product is always compromised.
 
Wthermans said:
So wouldn't that just be "vodka cream"? You can't call it Irish Cream without some Irish Whiskey. :lol

That would be correct :lol Just read the OP and was saying irish cream on accident. Fixed the original post. But, irish cream is made nearly the same way

TheUsual said:
I've found Kraken to have a heavier taste than Sailor Jerry's. It's alright, but price wise, it's on par with Sailor Jerry's, at least in my area.

Taste is slightly different than Jerry's but not much IMO. I like the two equally, and it costs a few dollars less in my area.
 
I drink my whiskeys neat or on the rocks, thus these recommendations are useless to me.

P.D: American Whiskey is poison and should be avoided at all cost.
 
Wthermans said:
If you're going to recommend EW Black, at least give George Dickel #8 a try. Same shit as JD but a bit cheaper and it's actually maple filtered (which is what makes JD so characteristic).

Sold. next time i want to get stumbling homeless drunk hammered i'm going to mr. dickel for assistance.

The Omega Man said:
I drink my whiskeys neat or on the rocks, thus these recommendations are useless to me.

P.D: American Whiskey is poison and should be avoided at all cost.


High tier bourbon is incredible and you're a slut for implying otherwise.
 
Ethanol is ethanol. Buy what tastes good to you. But all this 'this is better than that' is mostly just marketing, brands, advertising, status symbols, etc.

If you really like particular expensive brand and can afford it . . . get it. If you really like a particular cheap brand . . . get it and spend the money you save on something else you enjoy. But don't assume expensive/brand makes one any better than another.
 
Wthermans said:
Not sure where you're from @ $9/bottle you're better off paying a buck more and getting Chateau St. Michelle's line or Rieslings. If you want a really good Riesling, check out the Chat. St. Michelle/Dr. Loosen collaboration Eroica. It runs $20-25/bottle here, but it's easily the best Riesling I've found in stores.

No doubt that CSM's Riesling is very good for the price also. Fetzer just has a smoother alcohol bite and it's a little fruitier.


I will definitely try Erioca. Thanks for the rec. edit: Just looked it up and it's an ice wine? Ehhh .. I hate ice wines as they are way too sweet. Does this one have that overpowering sugary taste that most ice wines have?
 
The Omega Man said:
I drink my whiskeys neat or on the rocks, thus these recommendations are useless to me.

P.D: American Whiskey is poison and should be avoided at all cost.
"American" Whiskeys can be good (see any small-batch Bourbon or TN Whiskeys). Blended American Whiskey is garbage (just like ANYTHING blended, whether it be Canadian, Bourbon, or Scotch).

Remember Bourbon fans, if it says Blended, you may as well have gotten some Woodford Reserve, a cheap bottle of Barton's Vodka and mixed them together (be sure to go heavy on the vodka since most Blended Bourbons/American Whiskeys are 80% Vodka).
 
ToxicAdam said:
No doubt that CSM's Riesling is very good for the price also. Fetzer just has a smoother alcohol bite and it's a little fruitier.


I will definitely try Erioca. Thanks for the rec. edit: Just looked it up and it's an ice wine? Ehhh .. I hate ice wines as they are way too sweet.
Eroica isn't an ice wine AFAIK. Here's a picture of what I'm talking about. All the reps I've talked to say it's a normal riesling (not late-harvest, not dry, etc).

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EDIT: Ahh I see the mix up, apparently there is an ice-wine variant under the Eroica name. There is also a regular Eroica riesling which is what I'm referring to.
 
speculawyer said:
Ethanol is ethanol. Buy what tastes good to you. But all this 'this is better than that' is mostly just marketing, brands, advertising, status symbols, etc.

Sommeliers and mixologists aren't quacks who get paid money to rip off restaurant patrons. You can't make a drink just like you can't make a meal by throwing together random ingredients. There are certain aromas, and flavours (both high, medium, and low flavours) that go well together or with given food or with other liquors.

People shouldn't buy expensive shit just to buy expensive shit and there's no shortage of ripoffs, but the more developed your palette is, the more you're able to appreciate the subtleties of different brands, including more expensive ones.

In the same way that someone can say 'All jazz is the same' or 'All indian food tastes the same', someone with a more developed sense of taste in those areas will begin to be able to tell why those phrases are wrong, and the same is true for booze.
 
Wthermans said:
Unless you're drinking it straight or your cocktail calls for >50% Orange Liqueur, then just go with Triple Sec, if you don't want to seem like a cheapskate, just get Patron Citronage or Cointreau.

I generally mix it with Disaronno and Ginger Ale. I'm not afraid of looking cheap, just curious if there's an appriciable difference in the finer brands.

Maybe Grand Marnier is too expensive to experiment and find it doesn't mix well with my drinks. Never tried Cognac. Maybe if I see it on the shelf at a bar I'll give it a try.
 
Yeah, all vodka tastes almost the same except for when you go below the $12 mark unless you have some bad luck. Once you start entering Aristocrat territory you're better off just not drinking anything.

The differences are subtle. You can taste them and more expensive ones will be smoother, but it isn't a huge difference and the overwhelming taste that is the vodka flavor takes away a lot of the point.
 
Stumpokapow said:
Sommeliers and mixologists aren't quacks who get paid money to rip off restaurant patrons. You can't make a drink just like you can't make a meal by throwing together random ingredients. There are certain aromas, and flavours (both high, medium, and low flavours) that go well together or with given food or with other liquors.

People shouldn't buy expensive shit just to buy expensive shit and there's no shortage of ripoffs, but the more developed your palette is, the more you're able to appreciate the subtleties of different brands, including more expensive ones.

In the same way that someone can say 'All jazz is the same' or 'All indian food tastes the same', someone with a more developed sense of taste in those areas will begin to be able to tell why those phrases are wrong, and the same is true for booze.

It's about the equivalent of someone saying "this coffee tastes burnt". It just smacks of ignorance and lack of experience.

Case in point, some beers actually taste sweet when they're left to room temperature. No one I know actually drinks warm beer.
 
SRG01 said:
It's about the equivalent of someone saying "this coffee tastes burnt". It just smacks of ignorance and lack of experience.

Case in point, some beers actually taste sweet when they're left to room temperature. No one I know actually drinks warm beer.
I prefer Guiness Extra Stout slightly below room temperature.
 
TheRagnCajun said:
I generally mix it with Disaronno and Ginger Ale. I'm not afraid of looking cheap, just curious if there's an appriciable difference in the finer brands.

Maybe Grand Marnier is too expensive to experiment and find it doesn't mix well with my drinks. Never tried Cognac. Maybe if I see it on the shelf at a bar I'll give it a try.
Try some Hennessey, that's what all the real thugs drink :lol :lol
 
captmcblack said:
Sobieski Vodka is the king shit of fuck mountain where cheap but very good vodka is concerned.

Yup. I tried it a few months ago and I have stayed with it. I can't really justify spending a ton of money on booze with Grey Goose or whatever.



sharkmuncher said:
I wholeheartedly agree with this. Evan Williams + Generic Cola is every bit as good as a Jack & Coke

I went through a phase when I started drinking Evan Williams + Coke. I hadn't drank alot of whiskey before and that crap got me f'd up every single time.
 
My father swears by Burnetts as a cheap gin, though he's ever-grateful when I get him a bottle of Hendricks.

Smirnoff is actually a very good vodka. I've done taste tests and preferred it to the likes of Grey Goose, etc. Sailor Jerry's and Kraken are good spiced rums on their own, not just a cheap alternative to Captain Morgan's (which I don't even like). I think Canadian whisky sucks. I recently tried a lower-priced scotch that I liked: Jon, Mark and Robbo's Malt Scotch Whisky. Besides the goofy name, they were developed with the former master distiller at Macallan.
 
EschatonDX said:
also:

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More competitively priced, higher ABV, and better taste(IMO) than this hype train:

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Yep. Lifelong Captain fan who switched to Sailor Jerry a few years ago, and I'm never looking back over the starboard.
 
Teddman said:
Yep. Lifelong Captain fan who switched to Sailor Jerry a few years ago, and I'm never looking back over the starboard.

I agree.

Sailor Jerry tastes a lot better than Captains and it contains more alcohol to boot.
 
If you want a cheaper version of Capt. (SJ is tons better on quality but usually a buck or two more than Capt), just look to Admiral Nelson or Burnett's (yes I am endorsing a Burnett's product). Both of those are crap when it comes to rum, but they taste just alike (watered down vanilla with a hint of caramel) and I think that speaks towards Capt's quality more than anything. :lol

SJ is my favorite for spiced rum, but if I'm going to have distilled sugar water, I'm drinking Angostura 1919. Best rum I've ever had. Only $30 for a fifth and it is by FAR the smoothest rum I've ever drank. Their 3 year isn't up to par, but the 1919 is awesome. Mount Gay Sugar Cane is a good daily drinker for a non-spiced gold rum.
 
Tenks said:
MD 20 20. This hazelnut wine with a peach aftertaste that lingers on your tongue moments following the initial drink rivals the fine wines produced in even the most opulent wineries of France and Italy. Often looked down upon due to it's tendency to be drank by the homeless and sold at grocery stores and gas stations MD 20 20 offers a full bodied experience at a skeletal price.

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:lol :lol :lol :lol
Solid gold post here.
 
The Omega Man said:
I drink my whiskeys neat or on the rocks, thus these recommendations are useless to me.

P.D: American Whiskey is poison and should be avoided at all cost.

I'm a big scotch drinker, and I prefer to drink it ahead of bourbon and tennessee whiskey, but my friend that is a LIE.

I had some Blanton's single barrel bourbon a little while ago that knocked my fucking socks off. Hell, there are plenty of fantastic american whiskeys.
 
sharkmuncher said:
Ryan's Irish Cream - Every bit as good as Baily's at about $5-10 less per 750mL
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Also try Carolans... It's about half the price of Bailey's, and is better, imo. Smoother, silkier, creamier... Irisher.

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Wthermans said:
If you want a cheaper version of Capt. (SJ is tons better on quality but usually a buck or two more than Capt), just look to Admiral Nelson or Burnett's (yes I am endorsing a Burnett's product). Both of those are crap when it comes to rum, but they taste just alike (watered down vanilla with a hint of caramel) and I think that speaks towards Capt's quality more than anything. :lol

SJ is my favorite for spiced rum, but if I'm going to have distilled sugar water, I'm drinking Angostura 1919. Best rum I've ever had. Only $30 for a fifth and it is by FAR the smoothest rum I've ever drank. Their 3 year isn't up to par, but the 1919 is awesome. Mount Gay Sugar Cane is a good daily drinker for a non-spiced gold rum.

I'll have to remember that. Hmm, where I go to college SJ is usually like 3-4 bucks cheaper/fifth than CM. i'll have to try that Angostura.
 
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