Jake McLargeHuge
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Anton Sugar
Member
You're talking in circles, unless you're implying that your "deduction" is simply "everything is motivated by selfish reasons".
Devolution
Member
What does that have to do with taking sexualized pictures of people without their consent?
Girls
wearing sexy clothes in public is something i fully endorse. I cannot for the life of me understand how supposedly straight men can suggest that women should wear less sexy clothes in order to feel more safe from creepershots or harassment. That's so backwards. The creeps making girls feel uncomfortable are ruining shit for everyone else.
Some of the pictures are really hot though.
or guys
Some of the pictures are really hot though.
helloresolven
Member
Is there proof that the snorkeling picture is creepy? Couldn't that one just be someone taking a picture of his friend who is snorkeling? Maybe I'm crazy on that one.
I'm also dubious of the gym one, but yeah...
The rest are definitely creepy though.
I'm also dubious of the gym one, but yeah...
The rest are definitely creepy though.
phosphor112
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phosphor112
Banned
I've said that in nearly every single one of my posts.
I'm just saying if you don't want people seeing your thong, pass up on the leggings. That's what I'm getting at.
It won't guaranteeing anyone from not getting creeped on, but it'll prevent people from starring at your ass, because walking around with your underwear visible really isn't the "normal" thing.
Could it be that not the jeans are the problem but the tucked in shirts?
Byakuya769
Member
It doesn't. He's just curious and that's his smoothest way to ask.
It's time for Romney to show us his sixpack.
Devolution
Member
Some people have an ass you can spot regardless of their clothing choice, should they get surgery so people don't leer?
I usually don't have much to post if anything but as a woman, I know better than to wear anything suggestive if I'm not ready to be looked at. People taking the photos are creeps. Yes. This kind of voyeurism crosses a personal line for me but everyone has their own limits. It's not shaming to suggest I probably shouldn't leave a boob lying around. I wish other vocal women in this thread that are making blanket statements about women would stop speaking for me as everyone is different, everyone has their own lines, and your mileage will vary.
And yeah. It's not all about whether or not the dude taking the picture is attractive or not - that will make you ugly real quick - but a lot of women, a lot of them have that double standard so it isn't unreasonable to bring it up. Let's just be realistic here. I realize the irony with a username like mine.
And yeah. It's not all about whether or not the dude taking the picture is attractive or not - that will make you ugly real quick - but a lot of women, a lot of them have that double standard so it isn't unreasonable to bring it up. Let's just be realistic here. I realize the irony with a username like mine.
CrudeDiatribe
Member
1. You stop making generalizations.
2. Here are some generalizations.
2. Here are some generalizations.
phosphor112
Banned
No, that's impractical. Have you read ANYTHING I've posted, or do you just like slinging shit until something sticks?
Devolution
Member
How am I slinging shit, you've said don't wear stuff that brings attention to your ass. I'm asking you what people with obvious ass should do and now you're getting defensive because you don't have an answer.
Come on, I don't even agree with Phosphor but that's a pretty stupid example. Clothing is something you can easily choose yourself while your general body shape is not.
phosphor112
Banned
Look, I have an ass that girls like to look at. I'm a married man, so you know what I wear clothes that are a little more loose. If I get a comment? I get a comment. I'm not going to chop my ass off.
You're the one constantly bringing hyperbole. I'm only saying if you don't like attention to your ass then try not to wear something that would accentuation it, WITHIN REASON. And what's "reasonable" is up to that person.
For the love of God.
Creeps will be creeps. I've said this time and time again. If you want to chime in mid argument, get your facts straight first.
Devolution
Member
Uh yes that happens to be my point. If someone has a curvy body that a garbage bag can't hide, what do you say to them when creepers creep? You don't need to shame people for looking a certain way, you need to admonish the creeps for generally shitty behavior.
No, reasonable is up to you, you've made this clear about what clothing you deem unacceptable if worn by people who don't want attention.
Anton Sugar
Member
That's kinda Devo's point. If people stare at your ass even in "modest" clothing...then what?
yeah I was confused reading that.
and pho is now beginning to brag about his ass.
Truly this thread has hit low
depths20XX
Member
What about the people who end up on that mullet site? Should they be forced to cut their mullet to avoid having their pic taken?
nVidiot_Whore
Banned
Who is shaming the women though?
It's not shaming a woman to discuss the reality of what is likely to occur in situation A vs. situation B.
And you can shame a creep while still having that conversation.
Bottom line is though? It is hard for a lot of people to fathom why you'd care that people find you sexually attractive enough to be a little creepy about it.. I honestly can NOT relate to the idea. Even being straight and having homosexual men do the same to me isn't something that upsets me enough to where I demand they be ashamed of themselves.. or be shamed by society.
I can try to be sympathetic, but it also just seems like it's not something to get upset about. The reality is no matter what the intention you may or may not end up in someone's photo when you go outside. It's something to get over, not to spend too much effort being upset about.
It's not shaming a woman to discuss the reality of what is likely to occur in situation A vs. situation B.
And you can shame a creep while still having that conversation.
Bottom line is though? It is hard for a lot of people to fathom why you'd care that people find you sexually attractive enough to be a little creepy about it.. I honestly can NOT relate to the idea. Even being straight and having homosexual men do the same to me isn't something that upsets me enough to where I demand they be ashamed of themselves.. or be shamed by society.
I can try to be sympathetic, but it also just seems like it's not something to get upset about. The reality is no matter what the intention you may or may not end up in someone's photo when you go outside. It's something to get over, not to spend too much effort being upset about.
phosphor112
Banned
I already said it's in the eye of the beholder. If she thinks leggings are reasonable, she should expect responses because having a nearly visible ass isn't a norm in most western social protocols.
Shrug it off, give harsher reactions to those idiots making stupid comments.
they're not creepy they're just sorta fucked up. It's like that reddit thing of making fun of that Sikh woman. Voyeurism isn't really a good thing.
depths20XX
Member
Another good point. Is this even really a big deal? No, it's not. No one cares when people get their photos ridiculed online and I don't really care about some butt shots online either.
Accept that you don't have power over other people
This thread is all over the place I think.
Taking pictures of women, without their consent is creepy.
Believing that women can't wear what they want to, whenever they want to, is small minded.
Believing that a women can wear whatever she wants to and that should not draw any attention, regardless of what that is, is unrealistic.
Note, that last statement does NOT imply that women deserve to be raped, molested, photographed w/o their knowledge or in any other way harmed for what they wear. All it means is that if a women is showing all the curves of their body, someone is bound too look, EVEN if that wasn't what she was aiming for. To be honest though I don't think a woman has to to be wearing anything provocative for a "creep" to want to take a stealth photo though.
All that being said, I will never take a picture of a woman without her consent, but I do appreciate the female form, so I got nothing against women wearing yoga pants or pretty much anything really. And not because I want to run home and fap to them either; I don't think it's that hard to appreciate a woman's beauty AND believe she can contribute more to life than just leaning over for you.
Taking pictures of women, without their consent is creepy.
Believing that women can't wear what they want to, whenever they want to, is small minded.
Believing that a women can wear whatever she wants to and that should not draw any attention, regardless of what that is, is unrealistic.
Note, that last statement does NOT imply that women deserve to be raped, molested, photographed w/o their knowledge or in any other way harmed for what they wear. All it means is that if a women is showing all the curves of their body, someone is bound too look, EVEN if that wasn't what she was aiming for. To be honest though I don't think a woman has to to be wearing anything provocative for a "creep" to want to take a stealth photo though.
All that being said, I will never take a picture of a woman without her consent, but I do appreciate the female form, so I got nothing against women wearing yoga pants or pretty much anything really. And not because I want to run home and fap to them either; I don't think it's that hard to appreciate a woman's beauty AND believe she can contribute more to life than just leaning over for you.
But they can be just as lewd and revealing as candid yoga pant shots?
Dude.
It doesn't matter what she's wearing, see through or not. That doesn't make it ok for some jerkoff to go and blatantly take a cell phone pic of her ass.
How so? They're there posted on sites like peopleofwalmart for the sole purpose of making fun of them. Not sexualizing them.
doesn't make it right either.
Devolution
Member
Yeah this. People are gonna look but if anything they don't have to leer or go the full creep of taking candids without permission. I don't see how shaming people about what they wear really tackles the creep problem. If you got everyone to wear sweats tomorrow, creeps would still creep.
This post is attractive.
phosphor112
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I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
I NEVER SAID THAT.
Understood?
K.
phosphor112
Banned
Exactly my point. Is it because they are not attractive?
phosphor112
Banned
Then.
I ask this.
I can't see the picture. What is it/what does it say?
phosphor112
Banned
Lol that doesn't help. =P
It's only very annoying when people keep trying to say I think creeps should be allowed to take pictures of girls in leggings because they deserve it.
I've never said that.
It's only very annoying when people keep trying to say I think wearing "modestly" would prevent creeps from being creeps.
I've never said that either.
Sorry for being obnoxious.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Out of curiosity, I checked Reddit creepshot.
This is pretty creepy (they even known which ones are repost). And I have no idea how can people navigate reddit, such a badly designed website, barely know how it works.
This is pretty creepy (they even known which ones are repost). And I have no idea how can people navigate reddit, such a badly designed website, barely know how it works.
Uno Venova
Banned
So people have been arguing with the guy not knowing what his point even is.
Are you familiar with reverse image lookup?
GraveHorizon
poop meter feature creep
No way.
phosphor112
Banned
Yes, because, those have actually been my points the whole time.
Women should be raped for having vaginas. They should have sutured their privates up.
Yup.
That's exactly what my point has been. Criminalizing the victim. Thanks for breaking it down for me.
Byakuya769
Member
No. I understood exactly what he meant, and there isn't some huge distinction he keeps crying about.
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