Smiles and Cries
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AzureRonin said:
in Japan Wii will print much Yen
but I'm also saying the Art Style would be killer on Wii if animated well
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Level 5 announces brand new game in Tokyo today
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in Japan Wii will print much Yen
but I'm also saying the Art Style would be killer on Wii if animated well
AzureRonin
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Smiles and Cries said:
True enough. The art style is pretty cool in an "appeals to the whole family" way. Seems like the game would transfer nicely to the Wii.
Die Squirrel Die
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Bluemercury said:
Level 5 have done.
Dark Cloud - published by Sony for PS2
Dark Cloud 2 (aka Dark Chronicle) - published by Sony for PS2
Dragon Quest VIII - published by SquareEnix for PS2 (Level 5 did the grunt work on this, not the designing)
Rogue Galaxy - published by Sony for PS2
They were also developing True Fantasy Live Online to be published by Microsoft for the Xbox, but it was canned.
Forthcoming games from Level 5, so far announced are....
Jeanne D'arc - published by Sony for PSP
White Knight Story - published by Sony for PS3
and now Professor Layton and the Mysterious Village - published by themselves for DS
Level 5 are not owned by Sony, as has been said quite a few times in this thread. However of the 8 games they've been involved with, all but 3 have been published by Sony, so the impression that they are Sony owned is easy to come by. And of those 3 non- Sony games, one was PS2 exclusive anyway, one was canned, leaving Professor Layton as their only non-Playstation game that will actually be released (probably).
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Die Squirrel Die said:
N.B: this is the first time they edited by themself a game. And guess what ? This is his first game for a Nintendo's console. I would not call this a concidence...
Resident NeoGAF Level 5 fanboy is here! 
Anyways, this announcement doesn't really surprise me, as there's been major hints in the last while that L5 was ready to self-publish their first title. I actually wasn't sure if they would go DS, but since they did get dev kits some time ago (Hino's talk that the game was in dev before BT is probably taking into account pre-vis concept work), and they registered a couple DS friendly trademarks a few months back, it's not hard to understand why, especially since it's easily the most financially feasible platform right now for them. Plus, what else is left? Anything Sony will be done with SCE, working with MS will never happen again, and self funding a console game, even if it was for Wii, just doesn't make sense for them yet.
I think the game looks pretty damn awesome too. It's not what I was expecting or necessarily hoping for, but it still looks great. Supposedly the dev team is super small for this too, at less than 20 people. The entire game seems to be engineered for maximum profit it seems, which makes sense. I'm extremely happy to see them finally able to publish a title on their own, and I can't wait to get my hands on it.
And while I'd love to say this has now confirmed a DS purchase for me (which it has, sorta) I want to wait to see what happens with an NA localization. I'm not sure who would pick this up (I doubt NoA would), and I'm not sure many will see this as very viable for NA. I really hope the Level 5 name is enough to spark the interest of someone. Anyways, I hope this game does really well (though not too well, I want L5 to stay with their vision of making realistic and massive console games; though I've heard that SCE and L5 will be starting a second PS3 game soon, so that's good), as it'll be a great boon for the company.
Anyways, this announcement doesn't really surprise me, as there's been major hints in the last while that L5 was ready to self-publish their first title. I actually wasn't sure if they would go DS, but since they did get dev kits some time ago (Hino's talk that the game was in dev before BT is probably taking into account pre-vis concept work), and they registered a couple DS friendly trademarks a few months back, it's not hard to understand why, especially since it's easily the most financially feasible platform right now for them. Plus, what else is left? Anything Sony will be done with SCE, working with MS will never happen again, and self funding a console game, even if it was for Wii, just doesn't make sense for them yet.I think the game looks pretty damn awesome too. It's not what I was expecting or necessarily hoping for, but it still looks great. Supposedly the dev team is super small for this too, at less than 20 people. The entire game seems to be engineered for maximum profit it seems, which makes sense. I'm extremely happy to see them finally able to publish a title on their own, and I can't wait to get my hands on it.
And while I'd love to say this has now confirmed a DS purchase for me (which it has, sorta) I want to wait to see what happens with an NA localization. I'm not sure who would pick this up (I doubt NoA would), and I'm not sure many will see this as very viable for NA. I really hope the Level 5 name is enough to spark the interest of someone. Anyways, I hope this game does really well (though not too well, I want L5 to stay with their vision of making realistic and massive console games; though I've heard that SCE and L5 will be starting a second PS3 game soon, so that's good), as it'll be a great boon for the company.
Die Squirrel Die
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LevelNth said:
Dark Cloud 3 next, please.
Smiles and Cries
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good thing the DS is region-free
now to get back to learning Japanese
now to get back to learning Japanese
Mithos Yggdrasill
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neo2046 said:if Nintendo is smart enough
they should help Level 5 to publish the game in US and Eur
at the same time they should "request" Level 5 to develop RPGs for Wii or DS
I don't think it is only a money's problem. Anyway, Nintendo is not traditionally a RPG's developer: so they should buy some studios and Level 5 could be a right decision.
The problem is that, this is not the Nintendo's strategy anymore. Iwata doesn't like Second Parties too much like Yamauchi did.
I think that sounds cool with the brain teaser author being brought in. This means that hopefully we will get puzzles other than the pushing crates around kind or pixel hunts and inane trial and error puzzles so rampant in point and click adventures.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Error2k4 said:
I know. But Intelligent Systems's RPG are not traditionals: more strategy (Fire Emblem) and RPG like Paper Mario: not traditional.
What I mean, is that nintendo need some games like Golden Sun (but Camelot is working for Handy) or Final Fantasy.
So, Level 5 could be an excellent target, but it is not in Nintendo's plans I suppose.
Better pic of the new logo:
I liked the old one, the stylish 5 was kinda cool, but I totally understand and agree with the change (I think it looks pretty sweet too, nice and simple). It's better to put the focus on the whole name, rather than just the number 5. It's more specific.
I liked the old one, the stylish 5 was kinda cool, but I totally understand and agree with the change (I think it looks pretty sweet too, nice and simple). It's better to put the focus on the whole name, rather than just the number 5. It's more specific.
Chris Michael
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duckroll said:
Ok this game is starting to sound pretty cool... it's oozing with style too. One thing needs to be cleared though: is it a collection of puzzles or is it an actual adventure game ala Myst?
typhonsentra
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It looks cool, but what is it exactly? Are there any examples of the kinds of puzzles that'll be in the game yet? Also, why are the animation shots in widescreen?
typhonsentra
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So it's like Myst or something?
SuperSonic1305
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ethelred said:
Did you miss the part where someone is murdered in the first few minutes?
Conrad Link
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For some reason I thought they were under Sony's control :lol so you can imagine my surprise coming into this thread and seeing its for the DS.
typhonsentra
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He probably means story-driven RPGs, in which case Nintendo only really does Fire Emblem. Earthbound and Pokemon don't really take themselves seriously.jarrod said:
Pureauthor
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Derps said:
Of course, which is why Megaman ZX reversed the downwards trend of the MMZ games, Castlevania sold better on the DS than any of the GBA iterations, and SE literally cannot get FFIIIDS carts into production fast enough.
*checks your post history*
I just wasted 30 seconds of my life.
And Typhon, since when did RPGs have to 'take themselves seriously' to be RPGs?
typhonsentra said:
An RPG is an RPG. Where the hell did the distinction come from that only RPGs with serious stories count as RPGs now?
And the Mother series puts every bit as much emphasis on story as Dragon Quest. Not to mention that one of Square Enix's big three is a game starring Disney characters like Donald Duck and Goofy.
Pureauthor said:
:lol No kidding. On all counts.
..pakbeka.. said:
I'm in favor of banning for stuff like this. It annoys me when people do this in general, but neo is probably one of the best posters on the forum and if someone doesn't know that already, they're obviously not contributing much themselves.
Game looks fantastic btw -- hope it makes it out here! Nintendo should publish it in America if L5 isnt ready to take the next step and do it themselves here. Get buddy buddy with them.
typhonsentra
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ethelred said:
It puts an emphasis on story? Care to describe the story of Earthbound for us then?
Pureauthor said:
They don't. I was just putting out what I thought that one guy might've meant.
typhonsentra said:
Have you even played the games?
Yes, it puts every bit as much emphasis on story as Dragon Quest.
Other Nintendo-published RPGs: Ogre Battle 64, Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis, Golden Sun, Golden Sun 2, Magical Vacation, Magical Starsign, Tingle RPG, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Archaic Sealed Heat...
Magicpaint
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Pureauthor said:
Actually, Circle of the Moon sold better than dawn of Sorrow, but of course that was a launch title. Dawn still did better than Aria and Harmony.
typhonsentra
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I played it, yeah. It had a variety of events that occured but the justification for what was happening was always purposefully left pretty lose, with some alien lifeform scheming to take over earth from. You had to go to elemental based dungeons around the world to get items/abilities in order to encounter him/it. Of course I was 10 years old when I played it, it could've been really deep and I was just looking at it from my simple perspective.ethelred said:
As for the other examples you added later, I don't think Nintendo should get credit for Ogre Battle or Final Fantasy CC just for publishing the game outside of Japan. That's akin to praising Capcom for GTA.
Magicpaint
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ethelred said:
Sure, sure. I just remember Circle of the Moon doing bigger numbers than even Symphony in NA and assumed he was referring to worldwide sales figures.
Chris Michael
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Derps said:
Go to bed, junior.
Pureauthor
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Hardly surprising, considering we know next to nothing about it.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Yes, I know. I mean RPg with deep storyline, only that. I would like to see more games like Golden Sun, for example. And the Mother's Series has never come in Europe.ethelred said:
Last I checked, Quest created the Ogre Battle series. Last I checked, they released their Ogre Battle games on Nintendo hardware first. Last I checked, Yasumi Matsuno was practically the genius behind the saga.typhonsentra said:
Last I checked, there was a rumour floating around that he is developing a game for Wii.
I'm not even going to bother elaborating the complex story issues behind the acquisition of Crystal Chronicles.
IMO they deserve to have those series lined up under their belt.
typhonsentra said:
Nintendo published Ogre Battle 64, Tactics Ogre, and Crystal Chronicles inside Japan -- my point had nothing to do with them publishing it outside (they did publish FFCC worldwide, but Atlus published OB64 and TO:KOL in the US). They funded the games, published them in their native regions, and marketed them. Thus they get credit. Your analogy is flawed.
Er... since when has any SRPG ever really been "story driven". Mother's far, far more "story driven" than Fire Emblem, who's storyline is really just a set piece to frame it's deep simulation scenarios.typhonsentra said:
Anyway, looking at Nintendo's strong, continuing internally made RPG/ARPG/SRPG/SIM/DUN/etc series...
-Legend of Zeda (EAD)
-Mother (Ape)
-Fire Emblem (Intelligent Systems)
-Pokemon (Game Freak)
-Custom Robo (Noise)
-Paper Mario (Intelligent Systems)
-Animal Crossing (EAD)
-Magical Starsign (Brownie Brown)
...plus there's all the collaborative projects with developers like Alphadream, Camelot, Skip, Capcom, Square enix, RED, Hudson, Monolith and others. Basically they outclass every Japanese developer/publisher but Square Enix in terms of quantitiy, quality and brand strength. Historically Nintendo's significance is pretty apparent too, being the primary shaping force behind the SRPG and ARPG subgenres.
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