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Lightning Returns: FFXIII screenshots and extended Jump Festa trailer
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Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I don't even know what people are banging on about in this thread anymore.
Warm yourself by the fire, son. The morning will come soon. Tell me stories of a better time in a place that you once knew.
So, uh, what happened in the hours between your first post and your second post?Killdozer said:
Warm yourself by the fire, son. The morning will come soon. Tell me stories of a better time in a place that you once knew.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Yup.
More drinking.
I once know a place where JPRGs didn't suck. Totally devoid of Webaoos and Moe fanatics. It was about story and combat mechanics. Recently, the entire generation has been devoid of that. Overall it seems like they have entirely ignored the story, and replaced it with some gimmiclty combat mechanic that wasn't persistently applicable through the story.
TransTrender
Gold Member
OH yeah. Not banging on thread anymore. Just pointing out that Novala Crystalisis is over and FF XIII Versus is over with Lightning has taken the place.
Exentryk
Member
Take another drink and come back, I need a good laugh.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Guessing this guy doesn't play handhelds..
I'm liking you.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Pointing out that FFXIII as we know it is over. It's dead. Done. Some emo dude in a limo has been replaced by Lightning with a huge vago. Transcending time and shit.
TransTrender
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Tried but the super low resolution and pixels per inch have turned me away. Enjoy your Final Fantasy Agito, oh whoops wait, I mean Zero card game shit.
You have got to be joking...
TransTrender
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I can play Chrono Trigger on my 1440P monitor but Ace Combat Zero is not acceptable.
Yeeeah, that's why they've been putting a shitton of effort into their next gen game engine (for which they won't see any return in at least 1-2 years, if even then if whatever games use it flop) as well as doing what is probably the biggest fixing- a-broken-product a game has ever and will ever see in XIV 2.0. They might be trying to avoid risks of releasing games that simply have everything against them being profitable (JRPGs are a niche genre, 3DS is a niche platform), doesn't mean the company itself is taking zero risks. Mobile/Browser games are easy money for them, so sure, why not pursue that direction as well. It doesn't mean they are doing nothing else in the meanwhile
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Man, and I thought I had a bit too much.
Edit: Waiiiit, from before you think the three FNC games in their original state were supposed to be linked together in a chronological fashion? Oh nonono. They just share mythology (English translation here). FF13 is its own thing (so now it's its own subseries). FF Versus 13 is its own take on the foundation of the mythology. And Agito--now Type-0--has its own interpretation of the mythology. They are not chronological.
We've had enough. Is there even anything left to explain?
Which Japanese-developed RPGs have you played this generation, because therein may lay your problem. Also, are you talking about consoles or handhelds or both?Killdozer said:
Edit: Waiiiit, from before you think the three FNC games in their original state were supposed to be linked together in a chronological fashion? Oh nonono. They just share mythology (English translation here). FF13 is its own thing (so now it's its own subseries). FF Versus 13 is its own take on the foundation of the mythology. And Agito--now Type-0--has its own interpretation of the mythology. They are not chronological.
Here arm-in-arm, we parade these streets and sing our songs.KeasbyKnight said:
We've had enough. Is there even anything left to explain?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I realize you're just trolling, but the last 6-7 years on handheld in terms of rpgs has easily matched and even outdone whatever cute memories you have of FF7 and the good old rpg days.
But what does this mean?
Sadly, some people are pathetic like that.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Shit, I didn't even see that last one. Hahahaha.
I... need sleep.
Maybe we've outgrown all the things that we once loved?
I... need sleep.
Maybe we've outgrown all the things that we once loved?
Tizoc
Member
...yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
I wouldn't call people pathetic for that, but modern handhelds, phones and tablets have more than enough ppi for any gaming needs. If you insist otherwise, you are just proving to have an agenda.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Star Ocean, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Final Fantasy XIII.
I appreciate your enthusiasm but aside from English, Spanish is my only secondary language, and while I understand a lot of the French, a lot of the delicacy is gone.
Personally I like seeing all the dirty pixels.
1:1 pixel art is so much better on these lower ppi handheld anyways.
This isn't giving up, no this is letting go.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Probably, but I can't handle handhehedls at this point. Not ergonomic and not comfortable enough for me.
TransTrender
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Not to mention sprite art ages loads better.
Haunted
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I wonder why people always bring up pedophilia in these discussions.But anyway, case in point:
baffling
TransTrender
Gold Member
It's mostly the 1:1...
Guy, I hate moe crap as much as the next person, but you do realize these characters, along with the emo douches, have plagued JRPGs since the beginning?
Though, it is a shame these characters have stayed while others, such as the kick ass animal creature bro, have more or less faded.
Hey, Tarutarus aren't creepy, they are designed nice.
Lalafell on the other hand are actually more human-like, but all of FFXIV race designs are like that. Don't really like Lalafell myself.
Mithra were more of an actual cat race, but in FFXIV, they are kinda just humans with cat ears.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Star Ocean 4's narrative was offensive to the senses. And you know what half of us think of FF13 and its sequel (ie: negatively). Haven't played the other two. This stuff has been in Japanese-developed RPGs, though, but voice acting and directed cutscenes have made a difference, I guess.
My advice is to probably try your hand at other stuff. Not... stuff like Neptunia or maybe other NISA-published games or anything like that because that would irritate you further.
-Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll (PS3)
-The Last Remnant (PC version, please)
-Tales of Vesperia (360) (yes, it might look cutesy and anime and whatever, but the narrative is decent for 2/3s of the story)
-Dark Souls (PC, 360, PS3)
-Resonance of Fate (360, PS3)
-Xenoblade (Wii)
See if those do anything for you.
Sounds hot.demidar said:
If you don't understand the past, you'll never learn the fun now 'til you're standing at the gate.
You can't truly love until you've given up on it.
TransTrender
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Not quite since the beginning, but since FF VII. Also, don't call me guy,friend.
Faded? More or less, have transformed, which is OK for the narrow future set about for Final Fantasy.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
So the problem is you and your extraordinary pickiness, not the actual game quality
The games I want already exist? They have for years? I..I can't play them. Because.
Just because! Ok, guy?
It's been years, since our luck ran out and left us here, like broken mirrors, ten million shards of glass and tears, but now we are awake enough to shatter what we hate.
I don't even know what this threads about anymore.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
How unbelievably fun the 13 trilogy is/will be.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
A new Gundam series whose next OP song is going to be by Rise Against, obviously. It's been mentioned that the main character looks like a Gundam.
Time out, let's stop and think this through. We've all got better things to do than talk in circles, run in place; answers('re) inches from our face.
Tarutarus were way better than lalafells. I actually made a Taru before, but can't stand the lalafells.
Most of the race re-designs for XIV were a step down.
The best idea would have still been to make it Ivalice Online and use the FFXII/FFTA/etc races. Make it a world like XII's and expand it. You have established lore and races already, can put more people into working on gameplay and such. Could have had side-quests of POLITICS and INTRIGUE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs
Most of the race re-designs for XIV were a step down.
The best idea would have still been to make it Ivalice Online and use the FFXII/FFTA/etc races. Make it a world like XII's and expand it. You have established lore and races already, can put more people into working on gameplay and such. Could have had side-quests of POLITICS and INTRIGUE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs
Is that first Trinity one actually good? I like basically every other game in your list a lot, though a bit underwhelmed by Resonance of Fate, but Trinity always looked super meh and got pretty bad reviews.
Though Last Remnant PC got bad on most sites outside Gamespot because no one bothered to re-review the new version and slapped on the 360 score, even when it's insanely improved. Whenever I recommend it to my friends, they just look a the review and scoff it off, at least one of them got it at a steam sale and loves it, so I don't want to repeat that mistake.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Fuggin Last Remnant.. terrible memories. Was at a conbini, saw the PS3 version of Famitsu with that on the cover, next day I bought a PS3 with Valk Chronicles. Those two games were my sole reason for getting back into consoles after like an eight year hiatus. And then I waited..and waited..and waited..then I played Dead Space. =D
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
A mere Peon who knows nothing about what he speaks of.
Meccanical
Member
Killdozer is angry with himself and lashing out at everything because of it.
It's okay man. We're here for you.
You are (not) alone.
It's okay man. We're here for you.
You are (not) alone.
Yeah, what he really needs is the power of friendship!
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Which is a theme that makes Final Fantasy what it is yet Square does not see that as what makes Final Fantasy which means the old concept of friendship overcomes any obstacle is dwindling.
And with this game I fear Liberator of Souls will mean Lightning will kill off her old allies.
Is that first Trinity one actually good? I like basically every other game in your list a lot, though a bit underwhelmed by Resonance of Fate, but Trinity always looked super meh and got pretty bad reviews.
Though Last Remnant PC got bad on most sites outside Gamespot because no one bothered to re-review the new version and slapped on the 360 score, even when it's insanely improved. Whenever I recommend it to my friends, they just look a the review and scoff it off, at least one of them got it at a steam sale and loves it, so I don't want to repeat that mistake.
There's a demo on PSN. Just like you I was interested in it but after playing the demo and the bad reviews I lost all interest. Character movement feels super clunky and since it's an action RPG...
not to mention I could never find it in any stores here, if I had I might have out of sheer boredom.
Meccanical
Member
It'll be back in Versus, that's why Noctis actually starts the game with three close friends.
Let Lightning liberate herself out of my life.
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