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LINCOLN |OT| (dir. Spielberg; Daniel Day-Lewis)

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Ended up going with a friend to see this yesterday at the 12:45 showing. got there at like 12:40 not expecting much on a weekday mid day. Huge line that i figured was for Skyfall showing at 1. Go into theater and was shocked at a near fullhouse midday.

Movie was good. It was interesting and hit the right cords. School in the US kinda washes over the period pretty quickly with no real depth of detail just boom emancipation proclamation, war, 13th amendment, Lincoln dead. Movie was fantastic in bringing the whole thing to life and exposing some of the more grittier details.
 
Secret Fawful said:
Filth is a strong word.
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Would you prefer feces, crud, or fecal matter discharge? They can all apply to Both of SS' movies released last year.



Anyways, I really like the small touches that this movie has. Especially having to do with what shaped Lincoln's character. Did anyone else think the ending was weak though?
 
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CaptYamato said:
Oh so you get to see not too long after it officially comes out here. Oh I'll officially eat crow when it comes to Lincoln. Spielberg did great. The ending is kind of redundant though.
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Will wait till I see it. A lot of people complained about the ending to Munich - which I loved.
 
Oh yeah another thing. There were tons of teens and younger people at my screening. Asked the guy working there and he said that's how it has been all week. Thought it was pretty cool.
 
CaptYamato said:
Oh yeah another thing. There were tons of teens and younger people at my screening. Asked the guy working there and he said that's how it has been all week. Thought it was pretty cool.
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Ran into my younger brother's friends on the way out. Thought they were gonna see Twilight, but they were all there for Lincoln. A 2 and half hour movie about old white guys talking politics.

That was pleasantly surprising.
 
Was pleasantly surprised, expected to just want to rip it apart like most Historical movies. Spielberg had a perfect shot to end the film too, but he's always gonna run-on like his life depends on it. So much bs sentimentality.

And really, give Tommy Lee Jones the oscars. All the oscars, throughout time. Never thought Daniel Day would get stood up in a movie.
 
Amir0x said:
And really, give Tommy Lee Jones the oscars. All the oscars, throughout time. Never thought Daniel Day would get stood up in a movie.
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I don't get comments like this. DDL was fantastic. Just because he wasn't as bombastic and over the top as he was in There Will Be Blood or Gangs of New York doesn't mean he's not as good. His performance in the film was exemplary, and I wouldn't be surprised if he won another Oscar.
 
Amir0x said:
Was pleasantly surprised, expected to just want to rip it apart like most Historical movies. Spielberg had a perfect shot to end the film too, but he's always gonna run-on like his life depends on it. So much bs sentimentality.

And really, give Tommy Lee Jones the oscars. All the oscars, throughout time. Never thought Daniel Day would get stood up in a movie.
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I know exactly which scene you're talking about.
 
I saw this late last night and thought it was great. Some of the best acting and writing I've seen in a while. I was also glad to see a few young kids in there with their dad (or adult).
 
Amir0x said:
And really, give Tommy Lee Jones the oscars. All the oscars, throughout time. Never thought Daniel Day would get stood up in a movie.
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DDL completely melted into the role of Lincoln, and every time Tommy Lee Jones appeared all I saw and heard was Tommy Lee Jones. In no way did Lewis get stood up.

Edit: That's not to say I didn't think Jones was great in the film, he was, but there is a massive canyon separating Lewis and Jones in this film in terms of acting.
 
Draconian said:
I don't get comments like this. DDL was fantastic. Just because he wasn't as bombastic and over the top as he was in There Will Be Blood or Gangs of New York doesn't mean he's not as good. His performance in the film was exemplary, and I wouldn't be surprised if he won another Oscar.
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Zebra said:
DDL completely melted into the role of Lincoln, and every time Tommy Lee Jones appeared all I saw and heard was Tommy Lee Jones. In no way did Lewis get stood up.

Edit: That's not to say I didn't think Jones was great in the film, he was, but there is a massive canyon separating Lewis and Jones in this film in terms of acting.
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Guys, Daniel Day Lewis was fantastic. My comment wasn't, like, discrediting his performance at all. But Tommy Lee Jones was just another dimension. Tommy Lee has this really recognizable cadence that probably is why you couldn't see him disappear in the role, but he totally evaporated for me. Every movement and expression on his face told a billion stories. The dude was practically born for this role, you ask me.

DDL is my favorite actor, he doesn't even need my praise. Dude is a golden God as far as I'm concerned. The "Lincoln walk" and "Lincoln hunch" he always had was really just remarkable performance acting. There's no negatives to his performance at all.

CaptYamato said:
I know exactly which scene you're talking about.
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Yeah I actually was starting to prepare my stuff to leave because it was just such a perfect way to end this story (which really should have been called THE STORY OF THE THIRTEENTH AMENDMENT), and then it went on. I mean it's hardly terrible for that extra few minutes, just really unnecessary. The previous shot I felt should have ended the movie was beautiful and poignant and said it all.
 
Amir0x said:
Guys, Daniel Day Lewis was fantastic. My comment wasn't, like, discrediting his performance at all. But Tommy Lee Jones was just another dimension. Tommy Lee has this really recognizable cadence that probably is why you couldn't see him disappear in the role, but he totally evaporated for me. Every movement and expression on his face told a billion stories. The dude was practically born for this role, you ask me.

DDL is my favorite actor, he doesn't even need my praise. Dude is a golden God as far as I'm concerned. The "Lincoln walk" and "Lincoln hunch" he always had was really just remarkable performance acting. There's no negatives to his performance at all.
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When he gets up to present the reason for his support is probably my favorite part of the movie. The scene afterwards were his friend was telling him that he betrayed himself and he looks up at him. His face just screams "that doesn't matter as long as it passes."
 
Got tickets to see this tomorrow morning. Very excited for it and hoping that the early show time will guarantee me some good seats.
 
Sorry, I don't understand your praise of Tommy Lee Jones. I thought he's playing the same generic Tommy Lee Jones characters I saw in most Tommy Lee Jones movies while I was watching. The "fuck my job, now hear my put down" character.
 
There are plenty of roles where he doesn't play that "character" (whatever you think it is), and he's also fantastic just like this one. No Country for Old Men, for example. Coal Miner's Daughter. Etc.

I mean it doesn't bother me one way or the other whether you "get" how someone can like his performance, but it's demonstrably false that "generic fuck my job, now hear my put down" character is all he plays well.
 
Jimothy said:
This guy was a fucking douchebag, but damn was he charismatic:

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The supporting cast of this movie was great.
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Throughout the whole movie this is what I was thinking "Me and that dude have the same hair."



massoluk said:
Sorry, I don't understand your praise of Tommy Lee Jones. I thought he's playing the same generic Tommy Lee Jones characters I saw in most Tommy Lee Jones movies while I was watching. The "fuck my job, now hear my put down" character.
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I don't really see that here. In fact he seemed to really care about what he was doing.
 
One of my favorite scenes was when it was becoming clear that Seward and his crew were failing to get the required votes, so Lincoln got his hands dirty and advised the operation directly. It made him seem like such a master politician.

Sorry, I don't understand your praise of Tommy Lee Jones. I thought he's playing the same generic Tommy Lee Jones characters I saw in most Tommy Lee Jones movies while I was watching. The "fuck my job, now hear my put down" character.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=V7Brh9iWajc#t=0m30.55s
 
Great movie, but like many of you said, it ended 10 minutes too late.
 
DDL will get the Oscar. Movie was great, but needed some tighter editing, it was too long and could have had some scenes cut without affecting the story and impact.

I liked the opening scene a lot because it stopped people from thinking about the Lincoln from their memory and open them up, mentally, to get the rest of the actual film/screenplay started.
 
yellow submarine said:
DDL will get the Oscar. Movie was great, but needed some tighter editing, it was too long and could have had some scenes cut without affecting the story and impact.

I liked the opening scene a lot because it stopped people from thinking about the Lincoln from their memory and open them up, mentally, to get the rest of the actual film/screenplay started.
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DDL isn't a lock. Phoenix and Jackman are going to be strong contenders too.
 
Pretty wonderful movie. Fantastic performances, especially from DDL (duh) and Tommy Lee Jones. Extra shoutout to David Strathairn. The script was so good that Spielberg mostly just shot it and got the hell out of the way. I agree that it went on a little too long, though -- I would have ended it with
Lincoln walking out of the White House for the last time.

That final Stevens scene was beautiful in so many ways.
 
Just watched, really fantastic, DDL was just wow and the supporting cast was great. I loved the scene with the two telegraph guys and the scene where he tells the George Washington joke.
 
It's a great movie. Maybe one of the best i've seen all year if not the best. Of course you shouldn't go into this movie thinking that the historical aspects are 100% on point as, again, it's a movie.

This article sums up my views pretty well: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig13/rossini4.1.1.html


"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union."- Abraham Lincoln
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First and foremost Lincoln did what he did for political reasons.
 
Kad5 said:
It's a great movie. Maybe one of the best i've seen all year if not the best. Of course you shouldn't go into this movie thinking that the historical aspects are 100% on point as, again, it's a movie.

This article sums up my views pretty well: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig13/rossini4.1.1.html




First and foremost Lincoln did what he did for political reasons.
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I like how they bring this up when the radicals are debating whether or not they should trust Lincoln or not. I mean it's a quick and small line of what seems like throwaway dialogue but if you know this quote and the history behind it that scene adds a lot of depth to Lincoln's character.
 
CaptYamato said:
I like how they bring this up when the radicals are debating whether or not they should trust Lincoln or not. I mean it's a quick and small line of what seems like throwaway dialogue but if you know this quote and the history behind it that scene adds a lot of depth to Lincoln's character.
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Good point. I guess i'm saying that while it was a really good movie I think they could have portrayed Lincoln a tiny bit more realistically.
 
Watched this yesterday, Enjoyed it but a little slow. If I'm going by my enjoyment level of recent Spielberg movies I'd put it above TinTin but below War Horse.

TLJ was fanatastic.
 
Kad5 said:
Good point. I guess i'm saying that while it was a really good movie I think they could have portrayed Lincoln a tiny bit more realistically.
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I think part of the problem is perception, because most of us know Lincoln was a complicated figure relating to his feelings on slavery.

The issue is that the film though mostly takes place after Lincoln had decided on which action would work best for the Union, and so the internal struggle Lincoln had on the topic of slavery is only highlighted in the most cursory fashion. This leads some to think it's another one of those overly rosey portrayals of Lincoln, and in some ways it is, but I think it's also overstated due to the period the movie takes place during. It simply wasn't the same type of issue by this point of time in Lincoln's mind.
 
Kad5 said:
It's a great movie. Maybe one of the best i've seen all year if not the best. Of course you shouldn't go into this movie thinking that the historical aspects are 100% on point as, again, it's a movie.

This article sums up my views pretty well: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig13/rossini4.1.1.html




First and foremost Lincoln did what he did for political reasons.
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Clicked on the link expecting a libertarian circlejerk. Was not disappointed.
 
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