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Listen UP podcast - 05/29/09
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Yep. This is the last straw for me. I'm done with this podcast. Too much misinformation and they basically picked the worst of the worst posts from that GAF EA thread. Then the whole TF2 is done with content comment sent me over the freaking edge. Not only are Valve not done with the weapons updates I don't think there is any evidence they will stop. Hell they just put in new clothing starting with helmets.Danielsan said:
The top 3 Wii game picks were kinda laughable. Also Can't tell me Madworld would sell on any other console and I have no reason to believe that The Conduit is the Wii's savior. All this and NMH is Suda's best selling game and the only one receiving a sequel. Then the whole talk about how even if developers made good games on the Wii they wouldn't buy them. Two minutes later they are talking about how they would rather buy the Wii version of Ghostbusters. Does not compute.
Then the whole EA sequel talk. They were trying to make the point that EA was moving away from it and then Garnet goes off on his list. Half the games there were sequels or games in a series that was new in the last year or so. Also not one mention of EA's statement when they said maybe it wasn't a good idea to release all those new IPs in such close succession in a holiday window. In the end they just cut it off and moved on and no one knew what they were talking about.
Brad was a shining light though. I do love the Bombcast.
Splash Wave
Member
What the hell is wrong with Garnet these days?
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VASPER said:
i agree
he didnt help that his voice was incredibly annoying
gnarkill bill
Member
I couldnt believe how trashed that guy sounded towards the end. Pretty good E3 hype building podcast except for that :lol
Garnett/Blazyr reads these threads and gets insight out of them. I'd say first and foremost limit the alcohol - unless its at an event where its incidental anyhow. The fact that gamepro douche intonates the way he does, slurs, can't complete sentences/train of thought...etc made this podcast very very aggravating. Any number of established GAFFERS can offer their opinions more succinctly. The fact that this was a 3hour podcast was exciting. The fact that it was about E3 was exciting. The podcast however was a fucking mess
GARNETT, surely there are people on the 1up crew you can bring onboard. I don't know who else is left but surely sharky/jeremy ...etc can sit in. As much hate as Tina gets here, If she occassional gets on the show, I find her perspective on games interesting. Sam should have been on THIS SHOW to clarify/drop clues to his retarded Megaton story.
GARNETT, surely there are people on the 1up crew you can bring onboard. I don't know who else is left but surely sharky/jeremy ...etc can sit in. As much hate as Tina gets here, If she occassional gets on the show, I find her perspective on games interesting. Sam should have been on THIS SHOW to clarify/drop clues to his retarded Megaton story.
overthehill99
Member
This episode was an absolue trainwreak. Garnett and that Gamepro were basically just spewing absolute nonsensical bullshit the whole time. Thank God for Ellis and Brad.
Splash Wave
Member
The Gamepro dude sounds exactly how I would expect a Gamepro writer to sound.
rollingstart
Banned
Jimmy Stav said:
I thought the same thing :lol
All I could think about was someone yelling "GAMEPROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" throughout the podcast.
Hachimaki said:
Before that IMO. Around 20mins before the end of hour 2.
It wasnt all that bad anyway. Just kinda awkward. I for one am usually for the drinking, but obviously its an unknown quantity and create a variable where sometimes it just doesnt work out. All depends on the people (obviously).
On a positive note, Im waaay fucking excited at 1ups plans for podcasts next week. I think they will do an amazing job as always. Same goes for Giant Bombcast and salivate at the prospect of another all-in podcast ala xmas 08.
TheLegendary
Member
Man, I really think some people are overly critical in a way that's not really helpful. The way I view it (please excuse the sad metaphor) listening to this podcast is like listening to 4 friends talking. Friends say stupid shit all the time...you don't critique every word they say and tell them how to improve the dynamics or how to voice their opinions or whatever else people complain about here. It's conversation...it's not perfect. You just listen to them riff and focus on the good comments that you're interested in and go from there. I do understand people getting upset about plain incorrect statements and interruptions which make it unlistenable...but otherwise, my view is let it flow and let them be themselves. If Davids a dick, let him be. As long as the rest of the group doesn't get offended and he doesn't interrupt I don't see anything wrong with it. Hell if the others felt he was being a dick they should call him on it. I'm just a proponent of people being natural. You don't want them to be sitting there with a list of "Things GAF told me not to do or say." I really feel like that's the point we're getting to here. I will say though, it is Garnett's "job" to lead the discussion in the right direction and he definitely wasn't afraid to set the discussion back on track in this one. Although I guess he had to with the drunk in the room :lol .
I dunno...I mean I enjoy listening to the gamers discuss games while I'm bored off my ass at work. As long as they're discussing games I'm interested in (something they can't control), stating factual information (something they need to work on in some cases), and not interrupting each other (again, something they should work on) I think everything is fair game.
I dunno...I mean I enjoy listening to the gamers discuss games while I'm bored off my ass at work. As long as they're discussing games I'm interested in (something they can't control), stating factual information (something they need to work on in some cases), and not interrupting each other (again, something they should work on) I think everything is fair game.
CartridgeBlower
Member
Someone needs to give David a taste of his own medicine and bark right back at him when he starts raising his voice from his high chair. It's fucking embarrassing for Garnett when Ellis goes off and yells at him and I have no idea why Garnett lets that kind of crap continually fly from him. While I agree we on GAF can sometimes be overly critical of podcasts and don't realize it's mostly just 'four guys talking,' there is something to be said about professional discourse. Ellis needs to learn how to pick his spots better. He really believes he has something interesting to say about EVERY SINGLE TOPIC. That's almost as juvenile and immature as the Gamepro dude. Teenagers act that way.
And the Scottish guy wasn't half as bad as this Gamepro dude. The Scottish guy was so over-the-top it was funny. But this Gamepro dude kills every serious conversation that the show is trying to have in the second half. Way to blow your one shot on this show, pal.
And the Scottish guy wasn't half as bad as this Gamepro dude. The Scottish guy was so over-the-top it was funny. But this Gamepro dude kills every serious conversation that the show is trying to have in the second half. Way to blow your one shot on this show, pal.
GhaleonQ
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TheLegendary said:
At this point, I'm nearly trolling, but it needs to be reiterated. Has no one on NeoGAF ever participated in a debate, group discussion, or forum? By those standards, no one was belligerent, no one cut anyone off before the person reached the last few words of their last sentence, few statements were unnecessarily mistaken, and the pace was spot-on. I won't pull the anti-social card, but I encourage some people to find out what yelling, verbal hostility, digressive statements, and aggressive ignorance are like in spoken conversation. This episode didn't have it. (I'm done. I swear. Sorry.)
BigBlackGamer
Member
It's probably been said numerous times but ellis sounds like he want's to be Luke.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
You know, maybe it's just because I find David to be the most reasonable person of the three regulars, but I don't notice his interruptions.
I can't stand to listen to this week's episode again, but I'll see if I can pick up on it next week... but it just never stood out to me.
I can't stand to listen to this week's episode again, but I'll see if I can pick up on it next week... but it just never stood out to me.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Travis was definitely out of it from 1 hour >, I honestly felt embarrassed for him, you have people like this on the podcast and it really shows how much more learned Garnett, David, and Brad are compared to the average gaming journo, yeah we may not agree with them all the time and now again they get the odd thing wrong but at least they have the vocab and intellect to conduct a concise argument here and there, Travis drunk or not just can't couldn't compete bless him, overall I enjoyed the show, I don't mind the odd drunk episode now again tbh, can't wait to hear the E3 coverage shows.
EternalGamer
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firehawk12 said:
Ellis is my favorite podcast member. Mainly because he plays the role John used to play: he is willing to explore and analyze what makes something good and trys to maintain a framework of consistency.
That said, he certainly could tone it down a bit. But I just think that his personality + alcohol. I have no problem dealing with it. It seems persnickety next to the likes of drunk Gamepro guy. I feel for drunk Gamepro guy. I think he is just too young to be reflective and can't yet hold his alcohol. But he definitely doesn't need to be on the show for a good while again.
Cat in the Hat
Member
Garnett, thank you for revealing Sly 4, i'm sure you caught shit for it. I for one appreciate it.
Valkyr Junkie
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Cat in the Hat said:
He's revealed it every week for the past few months it seems.
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Garnett: "They've already done a dedicated Mario for the Wii. It was a fantastic game".
Gamepro dude: "Well no Galaxy was dedicated to the Wii and that was a great game!"
Garnett: "That's what I'm saying"
Brad Shoemaker indeed comes off best. He doesn't cut people off, he doesn't scream and he makes valid points. Although his 'in a while' sounds weird!
Gamepro dude: "Well no Galaxy was dedicated to the Wii and that was a great game!"
Garnett: "That's what I'm saying"
Brad Shoemaker indeed comes off best. He doesn't cut people off, he doesn't scream and he makes valid points. Although his 'in a while' sounds weird!
T.M. MacReady
NO ONE DENIES MEMBER
Drunk Gamepro guy needs to STFU. Ruined this show for me
HamPster PamPster
Member
Fourth Chair should now be the Giantbomb Chair
Each week a different GB fellow steps in
This week: Brad
Week after E3: Vinny
Then: Drew
Then: Ryan
Then: Jeff
Then: Brad again!
and so on
Each week a different GB fellow steps in
This week: Brad
Week after E3: Vinny
Then: Drew
Then: Ryan
Then: Jeff
Then: Brad again!
and so on
D
Deleted member 21120
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Agreed. I'm trying to stick with it, but I just can't. I haven't listened to any of the Bombcasts yet, but I'm about to download one, I guess.TeethMummy said:
rollingstart
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Polk said:
Considering that Wii Music is probably the only "Wii *blank*" game that didn't sell shit-tons and was their big reveal at E3 last year, it's fair to call it a failure. I'm sure you can say the same about games on the PS3 or 360 that were meant to be big but still underperformed.
This show was one of the weakest 1upyours/ListenUPs ever. It's sad when Ellis is the voice of reason of an episode, and speaks the quality of it. Although I agreed with him with the sequel thing, he needs to tone his act down, yelling at people like that. He's trying to play the role that Luke played way back when, but he can't pull it off.
Well, anyways, sounds like the MS and Sony conferences are going to be great.
Well, anyways, sounds like the MS and Sony conferences are going to be great.
