robertsan21
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About time they use one venue more than once! Stupid to have it in different location each year.
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London 2016? Plans to move Rio Olympics to UK amid concerns over Brazils preparation
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CharlieDigital
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Construction contracts, kick-backs.
If you don't need to build anything, there's no way to extract that kick-back.
It would just make too much sense to keep cycling through a set of countries and reusing infrastructure and sites, but then how would the IoC take bribes?
There are cities that have hosted more than once. The backup to the backup would avoid 2 in a row. Sydney? Beijing? Somewhere in the US? LA?
Avoid all that embarrassment completely and give it to Toronto. I still think that's a legit possibility.
SwiftDeath
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This is impressively worrisome.
Also #London will save the 2016 Olympics
cloud_sleep
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I hope this happens if only so there's a chance that Boris gets stuck on another zip line.
Fortunately (or unfortunately) it won't happen, many people are already tired of this protests because of how aimless they are. A protest against corruption is completely meaningless, of course anyone sane is against a corruption, these protests are redundant.
I was talking to a carioca friend and he said how for him the #novaitercopa thing is more of a fad than anything, and he finds it completely aimless as well. He made a very interesting comparison, this was like a robber that assaults you with a knife and people get outraged and throw the knife into prison while do little against the robber. The events are just the tools, they are not the problems, if anything they are huge opportunities, the problem is the shitty government.
If there is no Olympics the government will still keep robbing, neither hospitals nor schools will be made anyway. The Olympics are not the issue.
Deaf Spacker
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As much as I'd like to see London host the Olympics and Paralympics again I don't think that it will happen so soon.
Punchy4486
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Nuh-uh, Paris lost for hosting 2012, so they deserve to be the back-up for 2016.
(Won't happen, missing some/lot of structures that can't be built in two years)
Nuh-uh, Chicago lost for hosting 2016 to Brazil, so they deserve to be the back-up.
(Won't happen for the same reasons.)
Any bid that was 2nd choice is highly unlikely because no bid win meant no facility construction. It would have to go to somebody capable of hosting with minimal preparation and that means somebody who has already hosted.
Toronto is different because they're pretty much ready to host the Pan Am games.
Toronto is different because they're pretty much ready to host the Pan Am games.
Cow Mengde
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Yes, but not twice in a row; which is what's gonna happen here if it comes through.
The Brazilian government is corrupt. This could be a great wake up call to them.
Blood Red Sky
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"Nanny!"
terrisus
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FTFY
Goldrusher
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You'd think so. I've been reading a lot of stories about how the Brazilian population is being fucked over in favor of the World Cup. Despite how much they love football lots of people see it as a burden meant to entertain others at the expense of them.
thats a really nice logo
the hands are opening up the O to show how london is welcoming to people of all faiths, colors, and cultures
Nydius
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Worrisome but really not all that surprising, given how they've been bungling the preparation for the World Cup over the last few years (edit) and are scrambling to get things finished.
Meanwhile, in similar news today:
Brazil World Cup: Worker killed in electrical accident
Police in Brazil Threaten to Strike During World Cup
With only a month to go they're still trying to finish their stadiums, still trying to finish their infrastructure, and their public safety officials might purposely go on strike... The IOC needs to make a decision ASAP. The Olympics are a bigger beast than the World Cup (at least in terms of what needs to be built to support the various events) and Brazil's handling of the World Cup doesn't inspire any confidence that they'll be ready.
terrisus
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thats a really nice logo
the hands are opening up the O to show how london is welcoming to people of all faiths, colors, and cultures
And sexual orientations.
JehutyRunner
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Don't see it happening, although if - unlikely as it is - it did, I reckon London would be a lot more receptive to it. After they won the games for 2012, there was a lot of snark and cynicism (at least what I felt) down the line before the actual games, but after it was done, London would have happily have it back in town the day after the first games were done (again, that's what I felt).
That said, there are a few venue scenarios in the way. Obviously, there's the Olympic Park stuff, but that's not all. Earls Court, which hosted the indoor volleyball in 2012, is planned for demolition at somepoint within the next 18 months (it's hosting a few other events this year, including Eurogamer Expo 2014, though). I can see headaches massively developing.
That said, there are a few venue scenarios in the way. Obviously, there's the Olympic Park stuff, but that's not all. Earls Court, which hosted the indoor volleyball in 2012, is planned for demolition at somepoint within the next 18 months (it's hosting a few other events this year, including Eurogamer Expo 2014, though). I can see headaches massively developing.
Vancouver would love to host the winter olympics again. I believe Sydney would love to host again.
Hosts that continue to use the new facilities as sports facilities usually fair better than hosts that only plan for the one event. Not every olympics is a financial disaster for the hosts.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I assume it's because they know London just had the Olympics and assume they could prepare again quickly. My wonder is why they wouldn't be able to go to another UK city, give more people a chance to see it in their home town.
More the reason for it to happen!
killer_clank
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You can't just give the Olympic games to any old place, the amount of planning that has to go in from booking of hotel rooms, to transport, to ticketing is literally astonishing. It would probably only be possible for London to host if they made the decision now, so there's basically no chance of this happening. It'll be Rio, for good or for ill.
fredrancour
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They probably expect faciities to get re-used in london to slash prep-time. Moving it to another uk city takes away any advantage of using the country.
Brilliant logo!
Blood Red Sky
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Slough 2016! Let's make it happen!
Not many places could ramp up the infrastructure in time. Even London might need tonrejig a few things as they've started redeveloping some areas already.
But we do seem to be pretty good at holding backup olympics. 2012 was only our first proper one really.
Grenouille
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It would be hilarious. Do it.
It's not very original. One could say it's not easy to be very original when it comes to logos, but still this might be too similar.
If the Rio Olympics have one good thing above London is that their logo is actually decent.
The explanation of the logo is pretty interesting. I didn't realized at first it was not only Sugar Loaf, but it also spelt "rio". Not to mention is an actual 3D logo.
It's not very original. One could say it's not easy to be very original when it comes to logos, but still this might be too similar.
It would be hilarious. Do it.
It's not very original. One could say it's not easy to be very original when it comes to logos, but still this might be too similar.
Thats reaaally stretching it. I guess everyone just copied Matisse then.
MattPeters
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Title is pretty misleading.
They arnt planning on moving the olympics, the IOC inquired to London about their facilities, and if they are still able to be used for events.
They arnt planning on moving the olympics, the IOC inquired to London about their facilities, and if they are still able to be used for events.
Casual Gamera
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The logistics of it is one thing, but nothing happens without the proper sport facilities. Most major cities have gyms and stadiums. You got an olympic size pool with diving facilities? How about a velodrome for the cycling events? Even if a city can handle the traffic and accommodations, nothing happens if they can't host all the olympic sporting events.
HoodWinked
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do it for the lulz!
SpacePirate Ridley
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Now the countries that were up for the running can get mad at the olimpic comitee.
It's going to be glorious if this happens.
It's going to be glorious if this happens.
curlyfriski
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It's not going to happen, and you should never take anything someone in the IOC says at face value.
Specially when it comes from "a friend of a friend who told me" as source.
It does make the IOC look stupid for their selection process. They want diversity and have it on different continents, even if it might not be the best bid. They picked Athens because of the historical significance, but that games almost never happened. Now they've got another bid that might not happen.
A little less self-importance and a little more logical practicality is needed.
A little less self-importance and a little more logical practicality is needed.
I listened to TalkSPORT earlier (for those who don't know its a radio station that you guessed it, talks about sport) and they had the former Olympic correspondent on from the Telegraph, she now works for an Australian paper as the European correspondent.
She said this will not happen for a few reasons and that one of them is that it takes around 7 years for a nation to prepare for the Olympics. She said that London couldnt do it again so soon because stuff like the athletes village is no more and certain venues are no more.
She did say however, with two years to go a city should be looking at being around 60% complete in its preperations. She said that Athens was 40% complete (and this was a concern), London 60% complete and Rio is currently at 10% complete. They have not started the golf course. She said it's more likely that they will look to move certain events out of Rio to another location instead of pulling the plug entirely. She went on to say they will just prioritise getting the logistics right for the athletes and the fans will find it difficult getting around the city etc.
Bear in mind Brazil host the world cup in less than 6 weeks and 4 stadiums are not finished.
She said this will not happen for a few reasons and that one of them is that it takes around 7 years for a nation to prepare for the Olympics. She said that London couldnt do it again so soon because stuff like the athletes village is no more and certain venues are no more.
She did say however, with two years to go a city should be looking at being around 60% complete in its preperations. She said that Athens was 40% complete (and this was a concern), London 60% complete and Rio is currently at 10% complete. They have not started the golf course. She said it's more likely that they will look to move certain events out of Rio to another location instead of pulling the plug entirely. She went on to say they will just prioritise getting the logistics right for the athletes and the fans will find it difficult getting around the city etc.
Bear in mind Brazil host the world cup in less than 6 weeks and 4 stadiums are not finished.
WHAT!?! Wow. These are going to end up being more like the South American Summer Olympics and not the Rio Summer Olympics at best, aren't they?
Tallshortman
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If you are going to have 4 years between events then having it at the same place two events in a row is an awful idea. Overseas attendance would drop dramatically, a lot of the appeal for travelers is getting a different cultural take on the venue every year.
On a side note, I wonder if the world cup or olympics lack of preparation is going to surpass what happened when India hosted the commonwealth games.
As a random aside: It'd never happen for both business and ideological reasons, but I've often wondered if Walt Disney World could host the Olympics. They've a ton of space, accomodation, sports facilities, transport infrastructure...
And undeveloped land the size of Manchester.
Edit Walt Disneyworld Olympics would be awesome, give a suitable reason to go again since I don't yet have kids lol
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