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[Souldriver]

But they don't dress like doucheballs though.

edit:
I guess to put things into perspective, at least for myself, I've always been a fairly conservative dresser that judges books by their cover. I think I've said this story before but when I was like 10 my older brother bought some Kross Kolors bullshit. Even though I was younger than him I had the good sense to know he'd look like a complete buffoon. So my older sister, mother, and myself all conspired to shame him into not wearing that shit. It worked and he never wore it. So I don't mean to attack just hipsters. I think all people that dress kind of extreme are cum bubbles with absolutely no sense. Are you all thugged out? Does your tee shirt look like a miniskirt? Uggs and Von Douche your thing? Well, fock dat.

And you don't sense anything wrong with that while you wrote this?

I'm by no means saying you should refrain from saying to your brother that you think his clothes look stupid. You should be able to say that to close family members without it being meant to hurt one another. But conspire with the rest of your family to shame him into not wearing it? Yep, that's classic douchebag behavior.

 

[hsin]

I wanted that leather jacket for the longest.

I wanted the Gaspard one but it was way too pricey to order over. So I bought a Diesel Gold jacket to compensate.

 

[ice cream]

WHY DO THEY ALL WEAR THE SAME GLASSES?!
AHHHHHHHH

 

[Dali]

And you don't sense anything wrong with that while you wrote this?

I'm by no means saying you should refrain from saying to your brother that you think his clothes look stupid. You should be able to say that to close family members without it being meant to hurt one another. But conspire with the rest of your family to shame him into not wearing it? Yep, that's classic douchebag behavior.

Fuck off. We made fun of him about how lame the overalls looked. I guess 'conspire' was the wrong word to use as there was no agreement beforehand. He just showed them to each of us and we each in turn proceeded to make with the funnies.

 

[levious]

Fuck off. We made fun of him about how lame the overalls looked. I guess 'conspire' was the wrong word to use as there was no agreement beforehand. He just showed them to each of us and we each in turn proceeded to make with the funnies.

and I bet he would thank you now... perhaps the guy calling you a douchebag doesn't know/remember kross kolors.

 

[Souldriver]

and I bet he would thank you now... perhaps the guy calling you a douchebag doesn't know/remember kross kolors.

Can you link me to a pic of those Kross Kolors? Google doesn't seem to help me.

 

[Tony Rocky Horror]

Don't be dissing my Justice and MSTRKRFT gaf..

 

[levious]

Can you link me to a pic of those Kross Kolors? Google doesn't seem to help me.

it's hard to search for since you have to spell cross kolours differently everytime you type it... actually, I don't recall the official spelling.

 

[Dali]

Can you link me to a pic of those Kross Kolors? Google doesn't seem to help me.

Try it w/ 'C's. It was around the time Kriss Kross was big, so I spelled it wrong in my first post.

 

[Souldriver]

it's hard to search for since you have to spell cross kolours differently everytime you type it... actually, I don't recall the official spelling.

http://i35.tinypic.com/14tc8w2.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
My god! I hope you beat your little brother to shit for wearing that, Dali!



Seriously though, those clothes remind me of The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. :)
[IMG]http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/d/dj-jazzy-jeff-the-fresh-prince/album-homebase.jpg

 

[levious]

Seriously though, those clothes remind me of The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

I'm not sure if you think that makes it better or worse. TLC probably embraced the fashion more.

 

[speedpop]

This thread is a joke :lol

My friend is on the cusp of being labeled a hispter, he's also a twat and I tell him so everyday.

 

[AlternativeUlster]

... Do you know the difference between race and culture?

Yeah I do. I meant hipster in the culture term. I should have just said, "If you aren't part of it, you will fail to understand it." Which can be said about races or cultures or religions.

 

[Slurmer]

man some of those people look ridiculous.

 

[Jado]

GAF's sense of style

seriously, the above pictures have so many types of clothing there, you people have no idea how to fucking pin down what you hate. Do you hate J. Crew sweaters and jeans? Or do you hate v-necks and sleeveless shirts? Do you hate dress pants and slip on leather shoes? Or do you hate flip flops and retro tennis shoes? Do you hate scarves? Or do you hate necklaces?

If you all would fucking get out of your shell for a second, you would realize that most normal college kids where some of those things, to a degree. Sure, there are some that take it to the extreme, but that happens in EVERY. FUCKING. SUBCULTURE.

Face it you tards, you hate conceited people in general. That's normal. But you guys are so insecure with yourselves that you have to pick the most available subset to hate on.

Fucking let them live their lives, and continue to live yours as well in the basement.

I think you're arguing way too hard with the people making posts with the least substance. I dunno about your neck of the woods, but the hipsters in NYC are specific groups of people living in specific neighborhoods and they're disliked for very good reasons. Loud, annoying, snobbish, very self-centered, etc. I'm not at all condemning random college kids with unusual fashion tastes in whatever town you reside.

 

[Ginko]

I keep wondering who the fuck looked at a shemagh and said "nice scarf", you wear it on your head people YOUR HEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!

No. It all depends on the culture.

 

[lethial]

Great seeing Mugatus' Derelict line finally making mainstream appeal. Jesus they look like greasy unwashed street kids.

 

[Forceatowulf]

You know sometimes I stay up late at night wondering who I would kill if given the chance; a goth or a hipster. Hours I've pondered, and I still have no answer.

 

[Sniper McBlaze]

Do you know what I hate more than any subculture? People who dress so bland you just wanna puke on them, but they still bitch about how ugly everyone else looks.

 

[Forceatowulf]

Do you know what I hate more than any subculture? People who dress so bland you just wanna puke on them, but they still bitch about how ugly everyone else looks.

The look of a man wearing a plain t shirt and jeans makes you want to vomit? Really?... Ever think something is wrong with you, and not them?

 

[Sniper McBlaze]

The look of a man wearing a plain t shirt and jeans makes you want to vomit? Really?... Ever think something is wrong with you, and not them?

I rather have a world of people wearing ugly clothes than a world filled with bitching people in white tees.

 

[Slurmer]

Thread lacks pics:

Does this really qualify as hipster? It's just a shirt...and I have a few shirts like that :|

 

[Souldriver]

Does this really qualify as hipster? It's just a shirt...and I have a few shirts like that :|

OMG YOUR HISPTERR!

 

[Sniper McBlaze]

Is that the guy from Chromeo? <3

Edit: And if you think what he is wearing is ugly I feel sorry for you.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Is that the guy from Chromeo? <3

Edit: And if you think what he is wearing is ugly I feel sorry for you.

Yeah, it is (pretty sure). I don't think any of those people he posted are hipsters.

Jado said my thoughts pretty well, but I think my problem with it is that I just don't like imitation and fakeness. Some might define it as flattery or just really liking that look, but I think clothes, in a way, tell a lot about who you are, your background, your tastes. Most anyone with working class roots are going to hate hipsters; in a way, its trying to be something you're not. Not only are you not working class, not poor, but you also aren't doing anything artistic or creative. What's the saying? You gotta pay your dues to sing the blues. Through hardship comes solidarity among those who have experienced it. To see those who know nothing of what you have gone through, start imitating your way of life, there is a feeling of hostility.

This doesn't make it right. I mean, I for one think that anyone is entitled to wear what they want...But that doesn't mean I have to like it. It just seems culturally ignorant/dead to me, to wear something you know nothing about. I personally don't see any of this as some sort of cultural revolution, the way it could be considered in the early-mid 1900s. Kids aren't dressing this way to become immersed in any culture or use it to help them understand/develop art; they're doing it because it makes them look poor, ragged, "tough", or unique. They want to look like they have lived (and enjoy living) the "hard life". Sure, that's fine--but it's no better than spending $1000's of dollars to look cool, clean, "elite" or unique.

In my humble opinion.

 

[bggrthnjsus]

seriously, the above pictures have so many types of clothing there, you people have no idea how to fucking pin down what you hate. Do you hate J. Crew sweaters and jeans? Or do you hate v-necks and sleeveless shirts? Do you hate dress pants and slip on leather shoes? Or do you hate flip flops and retro tennis shoes? Do you hate scarves? Or do you hate necklaces?

If you all would fucking get out of your shell for a second, you would realize that most normal college kids where some of those things, to a degree. Sure, there are some that take it to the extreme, but that happens in EVERY. FUCKING. SUBCULTURE.

Face it you tards, you hate conceited people in general. That's normal. But you guys are so insecure with yourselves that you have to pick the most available subset to hate on.

i don't think it's so much about clothes (hell i wear a lot of clothes like that) as much as attitudes and lack of identity really. i would say those two articles jado posted are pretty accurate...the first one talks too much about the clothing, but it is right about the things that have been appropriated from other cultures and slowly drained of meaning. like you might wear a keffiyeh for solidarity with palestine, but purchased from an urban outfitters which has spent a lot of money marketing these cultural items to you (or worse yet, without even knowing what it represents). or what that second article mentions about flannel. although i wouldn't really say that you have to know a culture to like its clothing, drink, food, etc...but it doesn't really help not to. again, i don't think it's the specific clothes that have everyone up in arms (although they make the easiest examples), it's more about their attitudes and their consequences later on in the cultural timeline.

they identify with this subculture, but usually a subculture exists to avoid the image marketed towards the larger culture they exist within. but instead, this hipster subculture is actually carefully marketed towards, and is a really effective way to make new fashion trends...everyone i see these days is wearing hi tops, hipster or otherwise, skinny jeans are now the norm. i see that as more of an issue with identity rather than the clothes themselves, because in creating these trends in a grasp at an identity, they inadvertently end up homogenizing themselves. same with the gentrification deal...you can't really blame somebody for wanting to live somewhere cheap and interesting/authentic, but at the same time it forces out the poorer original occupants because of the raised property values (but hey, that's good for other people).

i don't think it's necessarily their fault...we're all susceptible to advertising, overt or otherwise, and we all want to live somewhere cheap, look like an individual, and set trends. the vast majority are probably perfectly nice and unpretentious about it too...they probably don't even realize the end result of the grasp for identity, but there are definitely ramifications. the only thing that actually bothers me is that eventually when they are 30 or so and tire of the subculture they contributed to, they'll just go back to being regular middle class people, which i think again robs their own subculture of its identity. middle class kids who want to be interesting playing interesting for awhile, then going back to their lives.

any musical arguments are stupid though

 

[joelseph]

I gots me that Heaps Decent tee and it kills! I would also have Wes's babies.

 

[hXc_thugg]

This thread is such an interesting piece of sociological drama.

I feel like I can understand where both sides are coming from. Yeah, a lot of young kids are absolutely annoying and over the top just for attention. However, you can't just decide that everyone you see wearing something you wouldn't wear is a complete doofus with a set of false interests and disingenuous beliefs. It certainly is absurd to be able to pin these ideas on any abstract group of people that has no clear definition, but only a set of loose cultural affiliations. Isn't it possible that some of these people really are just interested in fashion, music, and culture? Couldn't they actually have a genuine love for any of these things, and just because you don't know them personally you will never understand that? Do you really think that because of how they dressed on a certain day (or month, or year, or lifetime, etc.) that you came across them you would be able to understand the intimate details of their beliefs?

You all seem to be utterly concerned with your supposed personal individuality, but I'm sure that based on appearances we could use the same technique and turn this all back around on you and dissect all of your possible ideas and feelings. Then we could all decided that you stand for everything we don't stand for, because as humans we need a tribal enemy, or some shadowy cultural figure that is responsible for the imminent demise of our own ideas. I think everyone is being way too primitive in this discussion and falling back on old arguments for anything or anyone they have ever hated.

That all said, I can comfortably say I am a hipster, but only based on what I think that means to me. I suppose it mostly goes against Western culture (Maybe all human culture. I can't say for certain, as I am only part of this culture.) to label yourself, or allow yourself to be labeled, but it is clearly happening all the time anyways. That of course doesn't mean I attach my self-identity to an abstract idea of subculture, or that I knowingly allow myself to be pressured by what others think it could mean. I certainly don't feel any sense of self-deprecation, or guilt in saying it. As many similarities as I likely share with BrandNew or other GAF members who I can see my relation to, I doubt we have the same idea of what a hipster is. I obviously don't see it the way you all present it here, I also can't stand hipsterrunoff.com. Most of the kids I do see near-campus, or at shows, or at record shops, or at bars, or wherever, look ridiculous to me as well. I would never hold that against them, though. I couldn't even rely on a few brief conversations I've had with them to suss out a vague idea of who they are. If I thought I could do that I would be an asshole. I don't really hang out with any other "hipsters" either, I suppose. My friends just share common interests in certain media and ideas, so maybe I am just not exposed to the hive-mind mentality that many of you have expounded upon.

Additionally, the fact that many of you are so vitriolically opposed to these "hipsters" if they are male, but can somehow find the female ideal in "hipster" girls is really interesting to me, as well. It seems to point back to the biological root of this whole argument. That being, as we are males we are predisposed (Be it socially, or biologically.) to see all other males as a threat to ourselves and our position in the social structure. This thread is really just the usual twenty-something masculine insecurity that many GAF threads eventually dissolve (or initially appeal to ...) into.

Hopefully, you don't all just read that I was willing to say I am a hipster and then try to build a straw man argument around that, and can actually honestly think about any of the points I've made.

 

[Skittleguy]

http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/index.htm
Wow...it's like a field guide.

 

[Flek]

Does this really qualify as hipster? It's just a shirt...and I have a few shirts like that :|

i think the only reason he is a retard is because he puts fucking stickers on his laptob... i kinda hate peoble ike that.... I mean ok a fucking ugly pc cant be runied with stickers but when i see peoble putting a "sticker" on a macbook pro iam going to throw up...

 

[Anton Sugar]

i think the only reason he is a retard is because he puts fucking stickers on his laptob... i kinda hate peoble ike that.... I mean ok a fucking ugly pc cant be runied with stickers but when i see peoble putting a "sticker" on a macbook pro iam going to throw up...

Why?

 

[Skittleguy]

Why?

Cause he's a Macster probably.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Cause he's a Macster probably.

I have a few friends who plaster their Macbooks with stickers :|

 

[myDingling]

truth

Nice post. Of course you'll be derided for taking this too seriously and bombarded with "we just think they dress a little funny is all, geez" posts. Hipsters are hipsters, cynical message board nerds are cynical message board nerds. I fall somewhere in between and live happily. The music is pretty damn awesome, too.

 

[Flek]

Why?

because most of the stickers look retardet. Putting stickers on everything is something kids do. Adding a sticker to a product makes it look cheap and worthless. When sticking a sticker to a nicely designed product like a macbook pro or a dell adamo or whatever you even DESTROY the product....maybe its just me but i hate this...

 

[etiolate]

I don't care about your territorial pissings, I just care about what looks good. So I'm going to do some Project Runway on this bitch.

Thread lacks pics:

I like this shirt. The colors are warm and glowing, and work with the skin tone. Some are opposed to plaid/flannel patterns, but it doesn't bug me here.

Drab. Drab, drab, drab. Not horrific, but just too drab. Why the hoodie over the trucker hat? Choose one head adornment please.

This is just a slogan t-shirt and fetish piercings. The ensemble is not trying for much and achieving it.

[/quote]

Hip Where's Waldo, angry wu-tang clan, ecstasy girl and dude who looks like he just walked through a wyrm hole and ended up as confused as I am.

Pros: Confused dude's hat.
Cons: everything else in this picture. No deep V necks!

 

[lunarworks]

I agree with the post up there: NeoGAF is probably one of the least qualified sites to criticize fashion. (Certainly better than Slashdot, though.)

But, full-fledged hipsters do wear stupid shit. I see it all the time downtown.

 

[etiolate]

I'm guessing these are hipsters...?

These clothes just look thrown on. Get some tuck and fit before you fuck and tit. You just emasculated all of germany with that heiny bottle.

Guy in the yellow has too much danging off his torso. This outfit needs a jacket to keep it together and all the crap piled on him to have some body to it.

This is the worst I've seen so far, though I sympathize with their plight. Not the gay bit, but looking so atrocious you have to get shitfaced to deal with it.

Guy in the white is savior! Saving all these lazy dressing fashion hoppers and saving me from their slopped together shit. The white rimmed glasses and white suit work awesomely. Kudos brother.

This is not hipser. This is just a dude pimping it old school for massive points. Great sweater, cap and jacket. Not sure about the collared shirt, but I suppose it makes it hip.

Asian girl has sense enough to wear asian scarf that works. Best duo so far.

This has nothing good in it, but I'm point it out as an example of the lazy dressing. I've seen pregnant women care more.

Nice green jacket, but wrong dress. Or right dress and wrong jacket? Either way, no match!

 

[Door2Dawn]

Damn,being a hipster can score you white women!? Sign me the fuck up.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

i think the only reason he is a retard is because he puts fucking stickers on his laptob... i kinda hate peoble ike that.... I mean ok a fucking ugly pc cant be runied with stickers but when i see peoble putting a "sticker" on a macbook pro iam going to throw up...

here we go with the bullshit....

 

[Souldriver]

here we go with the bullshit....

It's quite unbelievable don't you think? :lol

Gaf is so opinionated about everything, they even managed to slip a little mac vs pc discussion into this thread.

 

[gutterboy44]

So many people are missing the point with hipster fashion and music taste. There is no such thing as hipster music or hipster clothing, there are only current trends in hipster fashion and music. The problem with hipsters lie in the fact they are completely without identity because they have become so far removed from anything of meaning. They have become so forcibly ironic of things that they no longer even know what they are being ironic off. Modern hipsters stems from nothing. It is the epitome of anachronistic vapidness

Everything that is sacred to their identity today is uncool and lame tomorrow. When people site bands like Animal Collective as "hipster music" they are equal parts right and wrong. Animal Collective used to be a hipster darling band but now they are popular thus no longer hip.

All of these photos people are posting have so much in common it is hard to deny the blatant hipster trends. Thick rimmed black glasses have surged and will then eventually dwindle out again. So yes you can confidently classify them as hipster garb. Not everyone who wears a keffiyeh is a hipster, but all hipsters were a keffiyeh.

I have nothing wrong with people having eccentric tastes in dress or music, however, if you claim these to be defining characteristics of your personality, stick with it. Don't follow the heard like mindless fuckheads. That is why hipsters are so frustrating and worthless. There is no such thing as hipster culture because the group is inherently devoid of any cultural significance or origin.

Going to Williamsburg is like walking into a clone factory. If this fashion is so expressive and identity defining explain the sea of identically dressed twats who like to believe they are rebellious. Another important thing about hipsters is local. If a small town had a few hipsters they could easily fit into the group of subcultures but they really aren't a true hipster. Major metropolitan areas predominantly Portland and Williamsburg, Brooklyn are the hipster epicenters. I feel like you cannot accurately comment on threads like these unless you have actually been immersed in a proper hipsterville. Those select few "silly" dressed kids go from a outcast minority to an overwhelming majority in wich their unique "fashion" is just as trendy and omnipresent as a business suit.

My next hipster fashion prediction, back to ultra baggy 90's rap clothes. Invest in Silver Tab jeans people. You heard it here first.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

I think the hipster look is ridiculous but whatever. They can wear what they like.

 

[Kevtones]

I love that I actually need the glasses I wear. I'm so fucking legit.

 

[gutterboy44]

I love that I actually need the glasses I wear. I'm so fucking legit.

Oh god I forgot about faux glasses. The worst.

 

[7Th]

I still think that cute girls with ridiculous clothing are always extra-cute. I really like that careless outfitting of theirs, it's very Nadja.

 

[gutterboy44]

I still think that cute girls with ridiculous clothing are always extra-cute. I really like that careless outfitting of theirs, it's very Nadja.

I totally agree that hipster chicks are very cute (the only redeeming outcome of hipsterdom) but trust me dude, it is the complete opposite of careless outfitting. Their attire is incredibly contrived. Think it like the person who spends 30 minutes on their hair to make it look like they just woke up.

 

[Flek]

here we go with the bullshit....

i said ugly pc...ive never said that there arent any nice looking pcs out there. I mean how could i? The dell adamo is pure sex

 

[Haruspex]

I still think that cute girls with ridiculous clothing are always extra-cute. I really like that careless outfitting of theirs, it's very Nadja.

There's nothing surrealist about 'hipsters'.

 

[Kevtones]

Oh god I forgot about faux glasses. The worst.

It was an odd coincidence for me about two years when I had to start wearing them. This girl I had been seeing had no idea I was getting them and I hadn't seen her for a few days but we had planned for a dinner date and what not the night I was to get them. I showed up with my new glasses and she loved the way they looked. The only was that she also had gotten glasses (dark trim, thick, big frames) since I'd seen her. Problem was her choice was a fashion one, mine was necessity. Needless to say I wasn't thrilled :lol