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LOST 06.07: "Dr. Linus" (108. Solo)

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Jack: "I wouldn't give up on him just yet."



Foreshadowing?

Or just some more cold blooded shit?



We'll know by May 24th!
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
They did so much to tease about Locke. They open the season with a big speech about how pathetic he was, and yet, he was different from the rest of them anyways. Special. Tracking shot with MiB on top and locke dead. Locke being carried all the way to the island to begin with.

If that shit doesn't come back around by the end of the season, then the writers really are some cold blooded mother fuckers. OG John Locke needs SOMETHING to hang his hat on, otherwise he's pretty much the most pathetic character I've ever known.
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On one hand, it would be nice to see a gratifying, meaningful, return.

On the other, its just really fitting for him to end up being a total nothing.

I'm fine with either way to be honest :lol
 
gdt5016 said:
Jack: "I wouldn't give up on him just yet."



Foreshadowing?

Or just some more cold blooded shit?



We'll know by May 24th!
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Even you're up on this shit.

If the series ends with Jack never knowing Locke was crippled pre-crash...goddam. :-


Seriously, John Locke and Jack Shepherd...friends in faith. It just has to end like this man, has to!
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Plus, we GOTTA have one final Locke/Jack exchange. One last time. It has to happen.
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Lindelcuse have said that we WILL get closure to the Locke/Jack stuff this season, so Locke has to come back somehow. Because Facob/Jack = copout, and Jack X/Locke X = copout.
 
What was the whole beef between the Others and the Dharma people. Was it the fact that they were fucking around with "their" island that prompted Jacob's people to take them out or was it something else?

And what exactly was Jacob's beef with Dharma? What exactly did the Others ever do? I think Richard is right that it just seemed like he walked around for centuries just doing shit for Jacob that never really amounted to anything.
 
I hope Smokey gets off the island, and the last shot of the series is Locke walking down a street in LA before turning to Smokey and tearing shit up.

LOST.
 
Charles Widmore is an anagram for..

Corsair Whelmed

Corsair - SWIFT PIRATE SHIP
Whelmed - To cover with water; to submerge

CHARLES WIDMORE IS COMING SWIFTLY TO SUBMERGE THE ISLAND

LOST
 
TheGreatDave said:
I hope Smokey gets off the island, and the last shot of the series is Locke walking down a street in LA before turning to Smokey and tearing shit up.

LOST.
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Instantly thought of Battlestar Galactica.:lol :lol


:-/
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Even you're up on this shit.

If the series ends with Jack never knowing Locke was crippled pre-crash...goddam. :-


Seriously, John Locke and Jack Shepherd...friends in faith. It just has to end like this man, has to!
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It's way too late for this reveal to have any impact on Jack whatsoever. Way too late.

Locke: Before I came back to this island...I was crippled!
Jack: ....
Locke: pretty amazing huh?
Jack: Bitch I just played chicken with a stick of dynamite. Is that supposed to impress me?
 
Solo said:
Lindelcuse have said that we WILL get closure to the Locke/Jack stuff this season, so Locke has to come back somehow. Because Facob/Jack = copout, and Jack X/Locke X = copout.
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Depending on how the X universe is resolved, Jack X/Locke X might not be a copout.

Yeah, MIB/Jack (while awesome on a billion levels) would not be any sort of resolution to the central Jack/Locke relationship.
 
gdt5016 said:
Depending on how the X universe is resolved, Jack X/Locke X might not be a copout.

Yeah, MIB/Jack (while awesome on a billion levels) would not be any sort of resolution to the central Jack/Locke relationship.
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They havent even met! Which is pissing me off!

Its too late for Jack meeting him and it being a mindfuck. Richard will just tell Jack "btw, the smoke monster is walking around the Island looking like John Locke"
 
gdt5016 said:
Depending on how the X universe is resolved, Jack X/Locke X might not be a copout.

Yeah, MIB/Jack (while awesome on a billion levels) would not be any sort of resolution to the central Jack/Locke relationship.
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The only way the X version wouldnt be a cop out is if somehow the Losties memories get transferred over to the 2004 X folk, which would be awesome.

Dead said:
Its too late for Jack meeting him and it being a mindfuck. Richard will just tell Jack "btw, the smoke monster is walking around the Island looking like John Locke"
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Its LOST. I can 100% guarantee you that Richard will forget to pass along this vital information :lol
 
Amazon comments are great:

Wow. After watching the complete series, including the yet-to-be-aired Season 6, all I can say is: that was a lot of sex.

Jack on Sawyer. Claire on Hurley. Charlie and Sayid going at at, Ben giving a Mexican Halloween to the Smoke Monster/Locke. Kate sitting back, watching it all, stroking a polar bear. Crazy.

The big reveal in the end that it was all a fried chicken-induced fever dream in Hurly's head...didn't see that one coming.

The musical episode, a la "Buffy". Also that time where Jin and Sun can only speak Spanish. Classic.

Anyways, the 6th season is certainly the most racist and sexist season of LOST, if not in the entire history of the ABC network (and we're counting Walt Disney's short lived summer of '59 "Mr. Walt's No Blacks No Jews" hour long variety show). Not only that, but the amount of nudity that ABC is allowed to get away with is remarkable. Nothing you'd ever really want to see (Hurly), but still interesting.

If you want my opinion, you should buy this boxed set. Buy it now, so that when your friends tell you things like, "Oh My God! I cannot believe that Claire and the Smoke Monster are married and she's birthing his child (S. 6 Ep. 10)!" you can say, "Pssshh...I've known that for months! Months!!!"

LOST. So many twists and turns....
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God bless Amazon for fast-tracking shipments of LOST's final season before it's even finished airing on TV! We watched all the episodes over 2 days and let me tell you....the twists and turns that pepper this final season will BLOW YOU AWAY!

HERE BE SPOILERS! Who would have thought alternate-reality Jack's explicit gay encounter with alternate-reality Hurley could even be screened on network TV? Unless the DVD version is unrated?

The final ending twist, being that the whole story from the beginning was just a dream of Vincent's (Walt's dog), a-la Pam from Dallas, was genius. In reality, the survivors are only on the beach for another 2 hours before a passing cargo ship spots them and they are rescued!

But the whole 'backwards talking' episode just fell flat in my opinion. HELLO? Twin Peaks anyone? And they had the good sense to do it for only one scene.....not the whole episode!

Other small touches, like the death of Jack halfway through the season, the musical episode, the Smoke Monster/Locke reveal, and the copious amounts of explicit sex, especially involving Hurley and Claire, really made the final season the most memorable. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
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:lol :lol
 
Dead said:
They havent even met! Which is pissing me off!

Its too late for Jack meeting him and it being a mindfuck. Richard will just tell Jack "btw, the smoke monster is walking around the Island looking like John Locke"
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Nah, not really.

This way, MIB can skip the explaining of who/what he is to Jack. We can get straight to the real shit.
 
the only thing i've ever been confused on as far as questions is this. how is it that Desmond doesn't remenber Faraday knocking on the hatch door when it happened years before? i mean, that's desmond's past and he hadn't time travelled.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
the only thing i've ever been confused on as far as questions is this. how is it that Desmond doesn't remenber Faraday knocking on the hatch door when it happened years before? i mean, that's desmond's past and he hadn't time travelled.
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He's special. They just explain it away with that.

It works fine, really.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
the only thing i've ever been confused on as far as questions is this. how is it that Desmond doesn't remenber Faraday knocking on the hatch door when it happened years before? i mean, that's desmond's past and he hadn't time travelled.
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His conscious experience of time is completely out of order. He's unstuck in time, Slaughterhouse Five style.
 
evil solrac v3.0 said:
the only thing i've ever been confused on as far as questions is this. how is it that Desmond doesn't remenber Faraday knocking on the hatch door when it happened years before? i mean, that's desmond's past and he hadn't time travelled.
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It makes sense because it hadn't actually happened yet, what doesn't make sense is that he didn't remember it until 3 years after Faraday did it.I chalk it up to destiny or specialness or whatever. Show's got bigger fish to fry.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
BOSS is an anagram for SOBS. Like a bitch. When he tried to kill himself. TWICE.

And failed!
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bionic77 said:
What was the whole beef between the Others and the Dharma people. Was it the fact that they were fucking around with "their" island that prompted Jacob's people to take them out or was it something else?

And what exactly was Jacob's beef with Dharma? What exactly did the Others ever do? I think Richard is right that it just seemed like he walked around for centuries just doing shit for Jacob that never really amounted to anything.
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Maybe it was Ben getting shot?
 
Educated guess about where the sub is headed and why--
thats the same place with the cages, brainwashing area and an underwater area where the sub docked in one of the earlier seasons. Lockes group is headed there so it makes sense that Widemore would be too. What would there be for them at the above water dock? Does this mean that Widemore is on team Locke?

bionic77 said:
This show is awesome at doing that to characters. I hated Charlie for the longest time and all of a sudden in the span of 4 episodes they made him likable at the end of season 3.

I was watching the Constant again the other day and I never could have guessed that Sayid would end up being so evil, but they really built up so well to that moment when he crossed over and when you look back at his character it made a lot of sense.

Now the same thing is happening to Ben.
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Well, he did try to murder young Ben in cold blood even if he thought it was for a greater good. He turned far earlier than at the pool.
 
Javaman said:
Educated guess about where the sub is headed and why--
thats the same place with the cages, brainwashing area and an underwater area where the sub docked in one of the earlier seasons. Lockes group is headed there so it makes sense that Widemore would be too. What would there be for them at the above water dock? Does this mean that Widemore is on team Locke?
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I agree. The person Jacob wants to get to the island? Desmond.

Hurley's podcast has Michael Emerson on, classic confirmed.
 
gdt5016 said:
Well, IIRC there are two docks, one at the barracks and one at The Hydra. So either or.
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"The Galaga was originally part of the DHARMA Initiative infrastructure on the Island. There were docking facilities around the Island, including those near the Barracks, the Processing Center, at Hydra Island, and at the Looking Glass station underwater. It was used to travel between destinations on the Island and from the Island to the outside world."
 
Alright, now don't get mad at me for asking this because of the debate in that other thread -- I'm not here to try to annoy anyone, I'm just curious. I haven't seen the episode yet but I read that stuff about them training polar bears to turn the wheel under the island. Is that true?
 
itsinmyveins said:
Alright, now don't get mad at me for asking this because of the debate in that other thread -- I'm not here to try to annoy anyone, I'm just curious. I haven't seen the episode yet but I read that stuff about them training polar bears to turn the wheel under the island. Is that true?
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Basically, yes, but it has never been explicitly stated and has nothing to do with this episode. But when you see a (skeletal) Dharma polar bear at the exit point of donkey wheel mechanism, what other conclusion can you make other than a polar bear having been sent down to turn the wheel?

When the DI first came to the island, they were probably doing other experiments on the bears.
 
Yaweee said:
Basically, yes, but it has never been explicitly stated and has nothing to do with this episode. But when you see a Dharma polar bear at the exit point of donkey wheel mechanism, what other conclusion can you make other than, at the very least, the polar bear was sent down to turn the wheel?
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Ah, sorry, I haven't seen the last two-three episodes yet. I guess I'm a bit curious about why they'd opt for a polar bear specifically. I'm sure it can't be on the basis of the room being cold alone.

beelzebozo said:
guys, i realize this is the last season, and that this was ten years ago, but i juston heard kristin shot j.r. is this true?
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Har har har, seeing as it was discussed here I thought something new had been shown about that. Admittedly, I didn't even think about the possibility of using a polar bear to turn a handle.
 
itsinmyveins said:
Ah, sorry, I haven't seen the last two-three episodes yet. I guess I'm a bit curious about why they'd opt for a polar bear specifically. I'm sure it can't be on the basis of the room being cold alone.



Har har har, seeing as it was discussed here I thought something new had been shown about that. Admittedly, I didn't even think about the possibility of using a polar bear to turn a handle.
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I want to know more as well. Those god damn answers! show them.
 
Yaweee said:
Basically, yes, but it has never been explicitly stated and has nothing to do with this episode. But when you see a Dharma polar bear at the exit point of donkey wheel mechanism, what other conclusion can you make other than a polar bear having been sent down to turn the wheel?

When the DI first came to the island, they were probably doing other experiments on the bears.
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Also they found a polar bear cadaver in tunisia in you-know-where
 
Chipopo said:
It's way too late for this reveal to have any impact on Jack whatsoever. Way too late.

Locke: Before I came back to this island...I was crippled!
Jack: ....
Locke: pretty amazing huh?
Jack: Bitch I just played chicken with a stick of dynamite. Is that supposed to impress me?
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Exactly...


One of the things I love about this show, it doesnt wrap everything up in a nice bow. Not all loose ends need tying.
 
Mediocre episode, not terrible but certainly not mind-blowing either. This season so far has been a bit of a let down, are we really half way through?
 
BitchTits said:
Mediocre episode, not terrible but certainly not mind-blowing either. This season so far has been a bit of a let down, are we really half way through?
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Nah, we'll be half way by Episode 9 (which will be quite possibly be the BEST episode of LOST, ever).
 
gdt5016 said:
He's special. They just explain it away with that.

It works fine, really.
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there's nothing inherently special about him. The reason he's "special" and why time works differently for him is because he turned the key at the hatch.
 
woodchuck said:
there's nothing inherently special about him. The reason he's "special" and why time works differently for him is because he turned the key at the hatch.
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....and that's what made him special.
 
Prediction: I'm calling it, end of an upcoming episode, Ben suddenly gets shot, camera pans to Desmond appearing out of nowhere, LOST.
 
itsinmyveins said:
Ah, sorry, I haven't seen the last two-three episodes yet. I guess I'm a bit curious about why they'd opt for a polar bear specifically. I'm sure it can't be on the basis of the room being cold alone.
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Can't be that. The DI had the polar bears (as suggested by Candle when he threatened Hurley with cleaning polar bear feces) and were experimenting on them before they had even discovered the donkey wheel. They would have had no idea that the chamber was cold.

I think why they chose polar bears specifically is not so relevant. I guess it might have something to do with testing how cold-weather animals deal with hotter temperatures a la global warming. The DI's mission was to change the numbers in the Valenzetti equation after all.
 
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