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LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)

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I don't understand how people are so easily calling it a character drama thereby giving them a free pass to leave loose ends all over the place. Sure, at the end of season 6 with one episode left trying to tie it all up was impossible, but they wrote the fucking show, they could have paced season 6 differently to try to address the mysteries in a way that didn't say "fuck you" to anyone who was actually interested in an explanation for what was happening.

Examples:
"What are the whispers on the island?"

Well, for the entire beginning of the show the whispers were always accompanied closely by the others, but now that we need to tie all this up, they're ghosts!

"What is the special energy on the island / what's so special about it?"

It's a magical light that is inside all of us and if the light goes out here, it goes out in all of us!

"Why does Walt seem to possess crazy super powers?"

lolwut?

So basically they either just didn't answer or they gave it some bullshit spiritual whitewashing and called it a day. I am hugely disappointing in this ending. I think there are a lot of fans out there who have come up with better rationalizations / endings than the actual writing staff did.

Mystery/explanation and characterization are not mutually exclusive, people.
 
omg rite said:
You could probably see a glimpse of that at the beginning of Kimmel. Matthew Fox was obviously holding back tears when he first came out. The final scene hit him hard.

Yep. That awesome.
 
RubxQub said:
The Constant isn't an answer at all.

Everyone loves that episode because of the awesome love story is weaves with Desmond and Penny...not that Desmond's time-jumping can be cured by finding a constant. No one gives a shit about the cure to the time-jumping, they care that a man's life was saved because the love of his life still had feeling for him in her heart all those years ago.

The entirety of Season 1 was about the characters and their stories, so don't tell me this show hasn't always set out to be a character show first, and a mystery show second.

What makes this show great is the characters within the environment, not the environment.

...when it was revealed the Locke had been in a wheelchair, that wasn't an answer, it was the introduction of "how can this guy miraculously walk again?" mystery. The only reason that moment works is because you're so swept up in the emotion of this guy finally finding purpose in his life and being given a second chance...it has nothing to do with an answer for why Locke is the way he is...it introduces the mystery how how he got that way.

Actually the main reason I like The Constant is because it feels like a Twilight Zone episode. It takes a sci-fi concept and deftly explains its in's and out's in a single episode. The emotional thru-line is nice, but certainly not the sole reason that episode is popular.

And this whole revisionist nonsense about the show never being about the mysteries is just a total crock of shit. I can't believe you guys are seriously trying to delude yourselves into believing that. Losts characters are no great shake, they're certainly not better than a lot of what's out there. This whole community here has been built around theorizing on the mythology and being pulled in by the mysteries, and now you're trying to tell me it's all been character-driven from the start? Why don't you go back to the season 1 finale thread and compare the number of people talking about the hatch to the number of people wondering how Jack's daddy issues will manifest themselves in the coming season.
 
Liara T'Soni said:
Lets not forget about Jorge (Hurley).

I've always liked the character/person, but I've been pretty critical of his emotional stuff in the past (Hated when he told Claire about Charlies death). Last night, he made moves that were just....everything I ever wanted to see out of Hurley, he pretty much did last night.

The ONLY place where the Producers missed a reference was when he told Jack he was coming with him. I SOOOOOOO wanted to hear a "Live together, die alone" there, but I guess they felt they wore that out too much already....:D

Hurley is the PERFECT character to be the new Jacob, he's always been tied very heavily to the mythology, because of his relationship to the numbers. Not to mention that he, as Ben put it, is at his best when helping people. I have a feeling that his Island is going to be a great place.

Hurley will open an amusement park on the island and creepily bring children to the island like it's Neverland Ranch.
 
I really just don't know why they wasted so much screen time in XLA/Pur this season. They spent a whole episode on Jack's son... WHY. I thought that the finale was really good up until the were all dead in this world part. It made almost half of this season mindless wandering which only was resolved cause Charlie almost chocked on his heroin.

All the island stuff was fun and entertaining and a great ride to the end. I thought Kate shooting MiB was a little anticlimactic if only cause I didn't like their "surprise" ending.

My only island lore thing that gets me is I kinda feel bad for the MiB. I don't know why crazy not mom was terrible to him and turned him into this thing. People say that Ben is the tragic figure, but MiB is the ultimate tragic character. All he wanted was to get away from the person who killed his mother he never was able to know.

I also took issue with his father being the one to comfort and guide him considering what a douche he was.

It was a poor wrap up of something they started this season so I thought it kinda went out on a low note which makes it hard for me to recommend others to invest so much time just to feel as conflicted about the ending as I am.
 
I really hope Terry walks away with a second Emmy this year. He hasnt submitted the last 2 seasons, but I think hes going to this year since he was playing a different character.
 
RubxQub said:
Breaking Bad is entirely deserving for it's incredible drama and actors, but it just feels wrong to end LOST that beautifully and rob it of the only honor that TV industry really has.
It's a much, much, much better show. It (by way of Aaron Paul) was already robbed by Lost the previous year.
 
To me, Lost is a mixture of genre/drama, with really great characters, and okay to great writing. I mean, I don't see how people could separate one from the other. Without the genre stuff, it's basically just a survivors show...hate to say it, but a serious version of Gilligans or something. Without the great characters...it's just a shitty written sci-fi show (Many of those sci-fi originals look like this to me).

I wouldn't have been interested at all if it didn't have genre aspects, and I wouldn't have stuck around if it didn't have great characters.

I don't really follow many shows. Lost is one of those "right up my alley" things for me. I saw the first 4 episodes of V but never went back after the break, I might try to get back into it, I dunno. Not really that interested in anything else on the regular channels right now, heavily invested in True Blood, which I just got into a couple months ago and which will probably be what fulfill my need that Lost had been fulfilling. Really sad the show is finished.
 
Amneisac said:
So basically they either just didn't answer or they gave it some bullshit spiritual whitewashing and called it a day. I am hugely disappointing in this ending. I think there are a lot of fans out there who have come up with better rationalizations / endings than the actual writing staff did.
It's just a shame that what you ultimately wanted out of the show, it never intended to deliver.

If you didn't mentally shift from "what is this and how did it happen" to "how will these characters survive, what will happen to them" at some point, I can understand why you're upset.

False expectations led to disappointment for some people it seems, but I get why you feel that way.
 
Amneisac said:
"What are the whispers on the island?"

Well, for the entire beginning of the show the whispers were always accompanied closely by the others, but now that we need to tie all this up, they're ghosts!

MANY people thought they were ghosts since the first time we heard them. And hearing what the voices were saying made this even more clear. Don't act like "they're ghosts" was a "they pulled it out of their ass" answer.
 
Rabid Wolverine said:
Same.

What a change from old Jack seasons ago having such high regard/respect for Locke.

I also forgot another part of his defense, where he said Locke was right about everything. Good on you, Jack.
 
Things like why was Walt special are so strange to me, there is no why they could ever explain that. From the day we saw Miles get the cash from talking to a dead man, this show was going nowhere but crazy town. Once you walk away from pseudoscience, you have to just either bail on the show, or get comfortable and wait for "God did it" style answers.
 
Amneisac said:
I don't understand how people are so easily calling it a character drama thereby giving them a free pass to leave loose ends all over the place.

I don't think anyone is. For me (and I think most people who feel this way) it's just that the resolution for the characters was so perfectly executed and satisfying that it made all the mysteries and answers barely matter.

Do I wish we got more answers? Sure.

Do I wish they'd ended it differently? No.
 
Spire said:
And this whole revisionist nonsense about the show never being about the mysteries is just a total crock of shit. I can't believe you guys are seriously trying to delude yourselves into believing that. Losts characters are no great shake, they're certainly not better than a lot of what's out there. This whole community here has been built around theorizing on the mythology and being pulled in by the mysteries, and now you're trying to tell me it's all been character-driven from the start? Why don't you go back to the season 1 finale thread and compare the number of people talking about the hatch to the number of people wondering how Jack's daddy issues will manifest themselves in the coming season.
Character show first, mystery show second.

The hatch in and of itself is interesting, but how it's discovery affects John Locke and the Losties is what really drove the end of S1 to a perfect close.

...and what does S2 open with? The introduction of a new character to fall in love with. :lol

Hell, what does S3 open with? The introduction of a new character to fall in love with.

S4? Introduction of new characters to fall in love with and care about.

S5 is the characters walking towards the conclusion of their time on the island, and S6 is the conclusion.
 
StoOgE said:
Also, evidently when you die, all character development is lost and you reset to where you were before the show started so that you can have a tear jerking "awakening" for the audiences benefit.

They were different in the flashsideways, most of them just had to make one more change to let go. Their development in the flashsideways was incredibly important to their characters. I don't believe it was purgatory like a lot of people, just another plane of existence crucial in their development.

Amneisac said:
I don't understand how people are so easily calling it a character drama thereby giving them a free pass to leave loose ends all over the place. Sure, at the end of season 6 with one episode left trying to tie it all up was impossible, but they wrote the fucking show, they could have paced season 6 differently to try to address the mysteries in a way that didn't say "fuck you" to anyone who was actually interested in an explanation for what was happening.

So basically they either just didn't answer or they gave it some bullshit spiritual whitewashing and called it a day. I am hugely disappointing in this ending. I think there are a lot of fans out there who have come up with better rationalizations / endings than the actual writing staff did.

Mystery/explanation and characterization are not mutually exclusive, people.

They aren't and weren't. Most of the mysteries were explained, just not all the mysteries were important. The character stuff was more important and that's just how the show worked. The writers have been very upfront about this for a long time.

It's not a cop out, it's the way they chose to tell the story. Which is legitimate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. But don't fault the show for something it isn't. Just say you don't like the show and let go.
 
RubxQub said:
Character show first, mystery show second.

The hatch in and of itself is interesting, but how it's discovery affects John Locke and the Losties is what really drove the end of S1 to a perfect close.

...and what does S2 open with? The introduction of a new character to fall in love with. :lol

Yeah, that was my reaction upon seeing the season two opening. "Oh boy, a new character to fall in love with! The reveal of the hatch is nice but whatever, there's a new player to include in my slashfic!".
 
omg rite said:
MANY people thought they were ghosts since the first time we heard them. And hearing what the voices were saying made this even more clear. Don't act like "they're ghosts" was a "they pulled it out of their ass" answer.

Obviously creepy whispers in the jungle make you think ghosts. I'm not saying that doesn't make sense, what I'm saying is, why were the whispers deliberately linked to the others when they have nothing to do with each other? That was just one example anyway, trying to explain that one away doesn't address the countless others.

I guess I should just get "That's how Jacob ran the island!" tattooed onto my chest so when I try to stare into my own little piece of the island's light inside myself for answers I'll be reminded that the answers were never important. Not sure how I missed that shift in the show that so many others seem to have mindfucked themselves into believing.
 
Amneisac said:
"Why does Walt seem to possess crazy super powers?"

I think they intentionally dropped that one on the floor because of how the actor was aging so quickly...it didn't fit into the story's timeline, so they needed to do something about it.

I think we have to remember, the writers supposedly had an end goal from the start of the show with key elements as guide posts...so it seems like everything they wrote to get from post to post was pretty much winging it.
 
I just typed up my thoughts on the finale itself and wanted to post it.
Some of it is a rehash of what I posted before I suppose, some of it has already been discussed, but just wanted to collect it in one place for myself.

Sorry it's so long.


The basic narrative of LOST as I see it:

At it's core, LOST is about a plane full of strangers who crash on a strange island (strangers in a strange land). Everything that is important to the narrative of LOST is seen through the eyes of these individuals. The setting of LOST is very important, but essentially it is a small snapshot in the whole timeline of this special island. The show was never about the creation or resolution of the island or its mystery, it was about a plane full of people who crash on this island and their reasons for being there. We saw their lives before the crash, during their stay, and the ultimate resolution of their very souls. To me, that's was really powerful and ultimately what moved me the most during the finale.

The Bilateral Ending:

In my eyes, there were two separate parts to the finale: one to satisfy the 'men of science,' and one to satiate the 'men of faith."

Plot Ending (science):

From a narrative perspective, the part of the overall mythology of LOST that pertains to our characters begins when a random pregnant woman is shipwrecked and by coincidence finds herself on our Island in 23 A.D. This is neither the beginning nor the end of the Island story, but it starts the events that are part of our journey. This women is ultimately murdered by a mysterious, very lonely woman who kidnaps and raises her two children. This confused and tormented women we later learn is a Guardian (someone who has been tasked with protecting the sanctity of this special place). Through a series of unfortunate events (that mainly was due to desperation and loneliness of our Guardian friend) one of these brothers is burden with the guilt of killing the other and by violating sacred oaths, brought into being the physical manifestation of the darkness in man - giving bodily form to the corruption inside who he murdered - and his desire to undue what he could potentially unleash to the rest of humanity. This takes place 2000 years ago and ultimately Jacob realizes his brother (Man in Black) will find a way off this island by removing him as a Guardian, and comes up with an elaborate job testing program to bring Candidates to the island who can replace him.

Our story ends rather simply, by Jack Shepard electing (very importantly, since Jacob himself was never given any choice - thus he created all these rules to maintain his Candidates free will) of taking up the reins of Guardian and finally killing the Man in Black. Desmond was needed here since he had the unique ability to withstand large amounts of electromagnetic energy, i.e. the physical source of the 'special qualities' of this Island - he was the only one who could remove the cork to seal up MiB's Smokey powers). This was his ultimate destiny and he gave his life to do it, and thus he died after fulfillment of his task. Hurley was given Guardian duty, and he elected Ben to be his "Richard" - so the two of them lived untold years together protecting the island. Kate and Claire and Sawyer with a handful of other people escaped on the downed Ajira plane and lived out the remainder of their lives in 2007 and onward. That's the end of LOST.

Spiritual Ending (faith):

There was never any parallel universe or timeline ... the bomb never worked, and as Jack said, "he's been wrong before." This was part of something the Losties faced constantly - they were mistaking coincidence and fate, and so were the audience. Anyway, The 'flash sideways' name is a red herring - what we were really watching was a form of purgatory where the souls of all who went on this Island journey in life gathered after their ultimate deaths. Here these special individuals were rewarded in death, as they got to spend some time together before their souls were ready to 'move on.' It was really touching. Michael wasnt there since he hasnt forgiven himself (or been forgiven for) for the murders he committed, he was still trapped on the island, helping out others in the form of ghostly whispers etc. While Ben is now aware he is actually dead, he hasn't finished atoning and wasnt ready for the afterlife either - he was content spending more time inside this purgatory, waiting till he was cleansed enough "being good" to complete his soul's journey. Same with the other characters such as Ana Lucia (as Desmond said, she "isn't ready yet"). That story was resolution for the 'men of faith' out there, but had no bearing on the actual story itself.

I can see people being disappointed since the flash sideways had nothing to do with the show narrative - the real resolution was Jack's sacrifice, a few people making it home alive, and Hurley ultimately inheriting the duties of Guardian ( to something we wont ever fully understand ) but the "flash sideways" gave us beautiful, spiritual resolution. They've been stuck in this place between worlds for who knows how many life cycles, till Desmond was able awaken them to accept their deaths and become aware of, as Christian said, the 'single most important thing in their lives' - the acceptance of what their fate was. They were then given peace and closure so they can move on.

I think this works brilliantly since, as they said all along: Everything on the island, happened. That was the factual events of Lost. The sideways was simply the close of our character's karmic cycle, and some people are not yet ready for resolution (Another example, Eloise Hawkings obviously was the first of all of them 'awakened' first when she saw her grownup son and having not killed him - asking Desmond not to end it for Faraday), but I loved it.

But... What about THE ANSWERS?!:

There are lots of 'mythology' stuff you can dissect if you put enough thought/discussion into it - The Others, Dharma, the Egyptians, etc - and there are lots of "expanded universe" stuff made specifically for the Internet - such as the Valenzetti Equation videos about what The Numbers are - but ultimately these things weren't seen by or important to the eyes of our characters in our initial plane crash, so wasn't touched on in the ending itself. I can see some disappointed here myself, but I think a lot of that would have been out of place given what the finale focused on.

Rambling now so will stop, but I'll miss ya LOST
 
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Have we had gifs yet?
 
Meier said:
That really was an amazing scene. I was disappointed though that when it came back from commercial it didn't play out that way.. they had cut the scene differently. :(

Yeah it looked so totally awesome the first time, with Jack coming down on Locke like a badass. Then when they came back they showed the side-shot and it looks like Jack is about to take a face plant and looks in no way like a badass.
 
Wes said:
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Anyone who wants to make an avatar gif of those frames of Claire giving birth where it looks like she's getting a wailing, please do so and allow me to have it.
 
Spire said:
Yeah, that was my reaction upon seeing the season two opening. "Oh boy, a new character to fall in love with! The reveal of the hatch is nice but whatever, there's a new player to include in my slashfic!".

:lol

Totally agree with you on what you wrote in that earlier post, by the way.
 
VistraNorrez said:
Flashbacks were crucial from episode one. They had nothing to do with mysteries. And then atleast half of the on-island story was about character development. So the show was more character based than mystery based since the beginning.

There was no great switcheroo going on.

I remember after all the main characters had their flashback. I said, "Finally! Let's get to the good stuff!" But no. Then Jack had another one. It was all downhill from there.
 
Spire said:
Yeah, that was my reaction upon seeing the season two opening. "Oh boy, a new character to fall in love with! The reveal of the hatch is nice but whatever, there's a new player to include in my slashfic!".
You just don't seem all that open to accepting that your idea of what the show should be isn't what it ultimately was.
 
StrikerObi said:
Yeah it looked so totally awesome the first time, with Jack coming down on Locke like a badass. Then when they came back they showed the side-shot and it looks like Jack is about to take a face plant and looks in no way like a badass.

I thought they both looked great.
 
RubxQub said:
You just don't seem all that open to accepting that your idea of what the show should be isn't what it ultimately was.

I'm not going to say the writers couldn't have mislead you into thinking that the show was going to be about the mysteries and the island primarily, but like I said, at some point during the show you needed to mentally switch to "what is going to happen to these people" and not "why is the island like this" otherwise you were going to be disappointed.

It's not invalid to think that you were cheated, it's just your ultimate endpoint wasn't in line with what was intended to be given to you.

Well, I understand what you're saying, but I don't think the writers throwing a u-turn halfway through and expecting everyone else to follow along is really a fair explanation for what we've experienced here.

It's like someone invites you over to their house for tea. They brew the tea, pour you a cup, sweeten it to your liking and right as you're about to drink it they stab you in the neck and you die. Well, they intended to kill you all along so why are you upset?

And so there's no confusion in the analogy, the stabbing in the neck doesn't kill you right away, you just bleed for two seasons and then get to meet all your friends in heaven.
 
Deadly said:
So who did Hugo and Ben lead exactly? Were there still other people left on the island or did they actually keep bringing people to the island?
Probably already answered. Yes there were still people left on the island.

Plus it's possible the Island would be easier to find making it likely that more people would arrive. Someone had to replace hurley at his death or else he would not be in the final scene.
 
RubxQub said:
It's not invalid to think that you were cheated, it's just your ultimate endpoint wasn't in line with what was intended to be given to you.

Maybe. I didn't dislike the finale, but I wasn't ultimately fulfilled. Everyone everywhere dies...what if they had the same ending on ER? Would that be lauded? Why can this happen on LOST and everyone thinks it's genius?

I'm sorry, but I feel they snookered us with the alternate timeline. The main story I did not mind at all, Jack laying down where he got up was awesome...but man...that alternate timeline was pure bullshit. That time could have been spent to either answer a few mysteries or flesh out the overall arc a little more.
 
RubxQub said:
You just don't seem all that open to accepting that your idea of what the show should be isn't what it ultimately was.

I'm not going to say the writers couldn't have mislead you into thinking that the show was going to be about the mysteries and the island primarily, but like I said, at some point during the show you needed to mentally switch to "what is going to happen to these people" and not "why is the island like this" otherwise you were going to be disappointed.

It's not invalid to think that you were cheated, it's just your ultimate endpoint wasn't in line with what was intended to be given to you.

So what did happen to those people? They all eventually died, found each other through a self constructed alternate universe and stayed together happily ever after in heaven? They could end any TV show like that. They could've had all the characters in The Sopranos meet in a church, hug, kiss and go into the light.
 
If this show is only character driven as some apologists like to say, I would argue that they left out one of the most important character of the show: the island itself.
 
Interfectum said:
They could end any TV show like that. They could've had all the characters in The Sopranos meet in a church, hug, kiss and go into the light.

THANK YOU! EXACTLY MY POINT.

See my post above about using the same bullshit sequence for another finale like ER.
 
Amneisac said:
Well, I understand what you're saying, but I don't think the writers throwing a u-turn halfway through and expecting everyone else to follow along is really a fair explanation for what we've experienced here.

It's like someone invites you over to their house for tea. They brew the tea, pour you a cup, sweeten it to your liking and right as you're about to drink it they stab you in the neck and you die. Well, they intended to kill you all along so why are you upset?
My apologies, I don't get that analogy at all. :lol

Again, I'm not saying people are wrong to be upset, I'm just saying that it's a shame that not everyone transitioned their expectations of what to ultimately expect out of this show at somepoint before it ended.

I've been knee-deep in theory like I'm sure everyone else has in the past, but like I said before, if you look back at the moments that made this show great, it has never been about the answers, it's been about characters.
Interfectum said:
So what did happen to those people? They all eventually died, found each other through a self constructed alternate universe and stayed together happily ever after in heaven? They could end any TV show like that. They could've had all the characters in The Sopranos meet in a church, hug, kiss and go into the light.
The ending for others works because we care about the characters. This show's method of flash-forward/flash-back/flash-sideways is what allowed the ending to take place and be constructed as it was for the final season.

I'm not going to be able to fully verbalize how/why this type of ending wouldn't really work for other shows, but I'll admit fully that you're right, the ending didn't have anything to do with the events that led up to it prior. It was a beautiful way to portray the characters and to reunite everyone through all the hardships they've faced together.

Just because the ending wasn't something you could have predicted from the start or was eluded to, doesn't make it a shitty ending.

It's the "...and they lived happily ever after" sentence drawn out over the course of a season.
 
A finale that churned my emotions like a meat grinder. Brilliant to the last T.

Thank you LOST for making television a riveting experience.
A splendid, splendid, splendid time investment these past years.
 
RubxQub said:
You just don't seem all that open to accepting that your idea of what the show should be isn't what it ultimately was.

I'm not going to say the writers couldn't have mislead you into thinking that the show was going to be about the mysteries and the island primarily, but like I said, at some point during the show you needed to mentally switch to "what is going to happen to these people" and not "why is the island like this" otherwise you were going to be disappointed.

It's not invalid to think that you were cheated, it's just your ultimate endpoint wasn't in line with what was intended to be given to you.

I know what the show was for the early seasons anyway, and it was very much about the mysteries. The fanbase, the marketing, pretty much everything was geared around the mysteries the show was presenting. Even if the show wasn't about the mysteries, the writers knew that a very large part of the shows success was due to them, and should have come up with something satisfy that portion of their fanbase. Claiming the show is about the characters is not an excuse for subpar mythology, I don't know how many times I have to say this. The two aren't mutually exclusive, you can have a character driven show with a satisfying mythology, it just appears Losts writers weren't up to the task.
 
I can't find a transcript, but based on what Christian said to Jack, I think what happens in the group at the end is really left to what you believe happens. The series while having plenty of faith and lots of ideas about religion, is never grounded in a single belief. Someone with a christian background may believe they go to Heaven while someone with a Buddhist background might believe they find Nirvana. In the Buddhist faith, Nirvana is considered a reawakening or enlightenment so there's certainly a case to be made with the characters realizing what happened in their life. Along with Locke being at peace. And can also explain why Ben and other characters weren't ready to go.
Reading up on Nirvana makes me lean towards that ending but it is in no way a definitive possibility and that is what makes it great.
You could probably also make a case for some form of reincarnation if you really wanted.
 
So after having a night to sleep on it and read the explanations, I'm starting to come around to the ending. Still have major issues with the whole sideways world arc, but the resolution of the Island actually turned out better than I thought it would. Love the Hurley Ben ending.

So yeah..still not a huge fan of the sideways resolution, but it didn't ruin the series for me or anything. Still my favorite TV viewing experience ever and unlikely to be surpassed.
 
Deadly said:
So who did Hugo and Ben lead exactly? Were there still other people left on the island or did they actually keep bringing people to the island?


BTw are'nt ROse and Bernard still on the island as well?
 
As a huge John Locke fan I think one of my favorite moments of the episode was when Flocke and Jack are looking down the waterfall/pit that they just lowered Desmond into. Flocke tries to compare what is going on to something that Jack and Locke had previously done together (can’t remember what exactly it was).

Jack responds by saying, “John Locke was right about everything. You disrespect the man by wearing his face (or something along those lines).” The line was flawlessly emoted, executed, and Flocke’s response was great. Before this episode I was hoping (when I thought that side ways storyline was an alternate time line) that some how LockeX would take over Flockes body and gain some sort of redemption, but that line, especially considering who uttered it, was far more satisfying to then what I had previously hoped would happen.
 
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