silentspork
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NinjaCodah said:
I hope you aren't trying to inspire some insightful debate by calling people that liked the finale apologists.
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LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)
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I hope you aren't trying to inspire some insightful debate by calling people that liked the finale apologists.
BobFromPikeCreek
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Can someone explain for me:
What happened with the whole smoke monster being a security system thing?
Why did it sound all mechanical and roboty?
Why did it just randomly kill people and not assume one of their identities to begin his plan sooner?
Why was the smoke monster randomly killing to being with?
Or are these just things we're supposed to forget?
What happened with the whole smoke monster being a security system thing?
Why did it sound all mechanical and roboty?
Why did it just randomly kill people and not assume one of their identities to begin his plan sooner?
Why was the smoke monster randomly killing to being with?
Or are these just things we're supposed to forget?
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Give Matthew Fox an emmy, give the writers an emmy, best episode of anything ever. I have never been so sunk into an episode before, i lost it when Sun and Jin remember, totally lost it and i havent cried in 15 years, didnt even know i could anymore.
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Give Matthew Fox an emmy, give the writers an emmy, best episode of anything ever. I have never been so sunk into an episode before, i lost it when Sun and Jin remember, totally lost it and i havent cried in 15 years, didnt even know i could anymore.
BobFromPikeCreek said:
Well...it's obvious Smokey wasn't a security system. That was just a misconception by whoever said that.
Probably sounded mechanical due to electro lightning crap. Doesn't really matter.
Don't know why it randomly killed people...seemed arbitrary.
MIB was an angry person.
TheGreatDave
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Kimmel sounds clueless for a super fan.
The plane shacking in LA X was when Jack died? Really?
The plane shacking in LA X was when Jack died? Really?
The S-Word
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I understand some people not liking the ending but really there was no other ending for Lost. Did you all forget what Lost has been doing since it came along? It throws you questions that mostly never get answered and are left to your own theory...lost has had more "theory" culture than any other show ever and they left you with MORE theories. Otherwise it wouldnt be fucking Lost...i expected nothing less than going "WHAt?!@!#E?L" at the end.
They concluded the story of the Island that started with those people crash landing and the story of the characters about as well as I could have hoped for. I can understand people wanting more answers though.
I think he was trying to say the entire story on the island took place in a nanosecond and when jack died he started purgatory back on the plane as if it had never crashed.
TheGreatDave said:
I think he was trying to say the entire story on the island took place in a nanosecond and when jack died he started purgatory back on the plane as if it had never crashed.
Interfectum
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The S-Word said:
Sorry, I wanted a little more than an alternate reality where everyone waits for all the characters to die so they could go to heaven together. Maybe that's just me though...
He never was a security system. That was what Rousseau called it.BobFromPikeCreek said:
It probably was not human at least in part
MiB did not like people even when he was human. He used them when it was for his benefit. This is why he would have never adapted to society if allowed off the Island.
Just a theory, but he killed at random because he did not know who the candidates were at any given time and it also added to his mystery. Most were thinking he worked for Jacob (See Ben) which helped him in his long con
water_wendi
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A crazy French woman said it was a security system. Wtf does she know? She has no insight into the island. She just saw it patrolling around and thought thats what it was.BobFromPikeCreek said:
The question is why do mechanical things and robots sound like the smoke monster? See the end of BSG for the truth.
Who knows? MiB is like the epitome of the Xanatos Gambit thing.
Who is to say they were random?
You dont have to forget them. They just arent very important or meaningful is all.
Keylime
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Which isn't correct.Zoe said:
I think we can all agree that we knew life and death had some really strong meaning on the show, but ultimately the island wasn't any kind of hell or purgatory, but just some crazy magical place.
ErasureAcer
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Porkepik said:
Sure they are but they also exist elsewhere in the X timeline where TIME doesn't exist. This really isn't hard to grasp. There could be another you or even the same you already in this timeless state while you're here on NeoGAF on Earth this May 24.
Folks, Im going to aceept the ending as is.
There were a LOT of stuff missing that could have made the ending even better. But im going to aceept the ending as is.
That being said, the show works two ways - it works as an symbol on how we fear death and live our lifes like it was death. It also works in a weird way if they were the same "egyptians" that made the symbols and statues in the first place.
That being said, it ended well - but JJ and LindenCuse went to there animu grab bag and pulled out Anno's ending out of the hat...but hey, dont hate.
24 will have the better ending tho...
There were a LOT of stuff missing that could have made the ending even better. But im going to aceept the ending as is.
That being said, the show works two ways - it works as an symbol on how we fear death and live our lifes like it was death. It also works in a weird way if they were the same "egyptians" that made the symbols and statues in the first place.
That being said, it ended well - but JJ and LindenCuse went to there animu grab bag and pulled out Anno's ending out of the hat...but hey, dont hate.
24 will have the better ending tho...
Yoboman
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Watching it reminded me a lot of why I loved it, and I did come near the waterworks quite a few times. As a character driven piece the last episode was one of the better resolutions I could have hoped for
I just think the whole direction of the island story arc went in a way that didn't appeal to me this season. It felt rushed, especially when you look at elements like Widmore. The island was it's own character, and the only major one not given justice in the end.
I just think the whole direction of the island story arc went in a way that didn't appeal to me this season. It felt rushed, especially when you look at elements like Widmore. The island was it's own character, and the only major one not given justice in the end.
It made sense to me. I don't think he was saying that's when Jack literally died, though. I was thinking it's where Jack's consciousness took him to the moment he died. It took him to the place in his life where it branched towards the path leading to his death....which is when the plane started shaking and ended up crashing. Only this time it shook and when it didn't crash, when this path effectively "split" from what actually happened... that was his post-life consciousness filling in and beginning the journey to reunite with "the most important people he ever knew" in the afterlife.TheGreatDave said:
Hari Seldon
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Anyone else find it really funny that the "Holy Grail" last supper chalice was a shitty plastic water bottle? :lol
The S-Word
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Like what though?Interfectum said:
More Flashbacks? Already did that
Life After the Island? Already did that
Just a random reality with no purpose? Why?
Them finding their alternate reality selves and merging? More confusing than really necessary
I understand not liking what was presented but it's going to have you talking for a long long time so it had it's purpose i guess
BobFromPikeCreek
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It'd have just been nice if things seemed even remotely planned.water_wendi said:
so the "happy" parrall universe thing was actually a pleasent purgortory, built for the lost to all meet up in once they died, when ever in their lives that ended up being, and then once all togeather (dead) they all go into heaven. well ..except for ben.
the other stuff..well i'm OK with them just giving them a happy ending .not everything in lfe needs to be explained..stuff just happens.
thats life.
the other stuff..well i'm OK with them just giving them a happy ending .not everything in lfe needs to be explained..stuff just happens.
thats life.
ostrichKing
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TheDuce22 said:
I think his theory is that the alt timeline was Jack's purgatory/mind trying to let go, make sense of it all before he died at the end of the main timeline. I still think the entire alt timeline was Jack trying to come to terms with dying...it would help explain the MASSIVE plot holes in the X timeline and the oddities of how it was structured...
I didn't like the direction they answered some things with either. But they came together for the finale. I can't tell the writers what to do, but they perfected what I didn't agree with in the finale.Yoboman said:
One weird thing is that Aaron, who was a boy when we last saw him may have grew up got married and died of old age but reunites with them as the baby they remember him as. I get why especially since time and place don't matter (For all we know he'll be grown the next day, just like Locke was able to walk same day), but it's still weird.
The S-Word
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The theory culture will be left with it's theories and even more theories as to what happened after the events:lol :lolMeier said:
Interfectum
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Perhaps Jack Bauer will run into his dead wife, zombie Tony, Palmer, Michelle and the rest tonight and they can chill in a cafe until Kim dies then move on to heaven. :lol
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KevinCow said:
An understated scene for me was Ben sitting outside the church. Convo with both Hurley and Locke was perfect. And it FIT his character so well. Everyone else inside, him on the outside, not ready to move on because of Alex, but I also sense a bit of embarrassment as well. Ben is "one of them" without truly being one of them because of all the shitty things he did to them in life.
BobFromPikeCreek said:
That's what really gets me. It's alright when critics say "it's up to interpretation" and leave it at that when we're discussing classic literature or a work where the majority of the plot threads FEEL planned, but when I get the sense that it's nothing more than an excuse, I'm disappointed. It may sound strange but if I knew Darlton had the answers and they had them from the beginning- even if I never got to see them- I'd feel better about the show.
BenjaminBirdie
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besada said:
Just finished it again. I was concerned it might really have just been the awesome or just general enthusiasm but, nope. Totally delivered again. For my money, there's not a single thing I would have changed except one: Hurley should have had a moment to say goodbye to Sawyer and Kate.
And it really is mystifying that people thought they all died in the crash.
"Some of them before you, some of them long after you."
Do they need to color it onto a placemat for people? Jeepers creepers.
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You're creating realities that didn't necessarily exist.Meier said:
For you (and others), you were theorizing because it was fun to think that you were going to figure it out. You were going to be able to figure out how the show was eventually going to portray itself and you could pat yourself on the back for being the best theorizer of them all...
...like I said, I would be just as theory heavy as the next person before...but at about halfway through this season (and I've said this to my co-workers and wife), that I no longer really cared to theorize. It was obvious (through the podcast and interviews) that this show was not going to be about those answers, but about the journey of the characters.
I re-baselined my expectations, and enjoyed the shit out of the show I love.
I don't feel cheated by what was given to me, and I accept that we'll never know the answer to all those questions this show created. Others aren't so willing to accept that, and I get it.
I'm much more adaptable to change than most.
Nothing about the way the show wrapped is going to change the ride I enjoyed throughout the entire series or will stop me from rewatching the show a thousand times over before I die.
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