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[Magnus]

The Mary McNamara LA Times review is still up? :lol :lol :lol

 

[Dragon]

Ah ok, so he was just chilling as Christian's body for the entire day. Got ya. Now I see how they can get away with this. People will fill up plot holes for them.

Fill up plot holes? What's to fill up? I just posted something and you completely misconstrued my words on purpose to support your own opinion. Just stop.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

:lol How is this a suitable answer to anyone? I think I'm gonna write me a series of novels with all these mysterious and convoluted plot points, and then in interviews outside of the work I'm gonna say that answers to my mysterious and convoluted plot points are never coming and you're on the wrong track if you're looking for them. What a sweet gig.

But pretty much all the mysterious and convoluted plot points came together in the end. Pretty much everything that happened was in someway connected to the energy at the core of the island.

 

[StuBurns]

MIB didn't need to fool the dog at all. Stop making up stuff as you go along. It was probably easiest for him, just like it was easiest to appear as John Locke after he died.

Have you seen the clip? He speaks to a dog when no one is there.

It reminds me of Ben speaking to 'Jacob' when he turns the wheel despite apparently not believing Jacob was even in the cabin.

No, it's obviously supposed to be Jacob's brother, although your theory seems nice. Their goals are the same (to get off the island, etc).

The lesson is that some people who go into the golden cave you either have to be immune to electromagnetism, be Jacob, or you'll turn into a smoke monster.

I guess I didn't articulate that well, what I meant was he actually takes on the personality of the 'host' to some extent. Not that he pretends. That would go some way to explaining why he lied to a dog.

 

[DrBo42]

You're going to assume that this is my avatar out of fan adoration and not cosplay ridicule?

Stranger things have happened.

 

[The Elite]

So how does Lapidus explain the return of the Ajira flight to Air Traffic Control? Some of the people returning on that plane weren't even on it to begin. There's a whole shit storm that would happen on the mainland once Ajira returned. That would be interesting to see. :lol

 

[Zeliard]

By the way, the pseudo-science people who are pissed should also realize that the island's "magical power" basically is crazy electromagnetism. The show never really contradicted itself on that.

And we know this because Widmore and his team managed to apparently perfectly replicate it, since they tested it on Desmond. Desmond managed to withstand Widmore's machine in the same way that he withstood that magical electrified pool down in the cave. They are identical.

Now whether you want to buy that massive amounts of electromagnetic energy can cause the things it caused throughout the series, that's where one's capacity for suspension of disbelief comes into play (as well as how much you're willing to stretch the "pseudo-" prefix qualifier).

 

[criesofthepast]

Here you guys go:

Larger version: http://i49.tinypic.com/2dmgt38.jpg

Not high res (I'm working with what I could find online) but a lot better than the other one.


The version on my computer is 2048x2272 but tinypic resized to 1600.

Nice! Thank You. I'd love it without the watermarks but I guess it wouldn't be too hard to photoshop those out.

 

[Calcaneus]

Really? Hmm, I'm too lazy to do a search, but I heard from a Lost fanatic who followed the show religiously (and was disappointed with the lack of explanations at the end) who said that the 20 minutes was from the finale itself.

If anyone can confirm this, that would be cool.

Here's a news item about it

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

So how does Lapidus explain the return of the Ajira flight to Air Traffic Control? Some of the people returning on that plane weren't even on it to begin. There's a whole shit storm that would happen on the mainland once Ajira returned. That would be interesting to see. :lol

:lol

I hope Penny has an aircraft carrier.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Ceres]

Ditch the recap, make the final episode 4 and a half hours.

Ditch the separate episodes. Make the final episode 18.5 hrs.

 

[TheGreatDave]

I'm sure they're not done with explaining some mysteries. It's just that at this point they're not going to satisfy anybody but nerds. At no point in the finale did I think "fuck, what about the Cabin".

 

[Korey]

So how does Lapidus explain the return of the Ajira flight to Air Traffic Control? Some of the people returning on that plane weren't even on it to begin. There's a whole shit storm that would happen on the mainland once Ajira returned. That would be interesting to see. :lol

That stuff's not important. What is important is what happens to everyone after they all die!

 

[Dragon]

Have you seen the clip? He speaks to a dog when no one is there.

It reminds me of Ben speaking to 'Jacob' when he turns the wheel despite apparently not believing Jacob was even in the cabin.

Do you have a link to the clip?

 

[StuBurns]

Do you have a link to the clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuXzPnhhsJ0

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

By the way, someone asked a ways back if Miles made it off with the diamonds, yes he did.

 

[LCfiner]

That stuff's not important. What is important is what happens to everyone after they all die!

shot out of the sky as a rogue aircraft. they never even had a chance to land.

 

[Byakuya769]

Do you have a link to the clip?

Wow, so you're "explaining" shit you haven't seen.
:lol :lol :lol

 

[cory]

I don't know when I'm going to rewatch the series. Maybe next summer, maybe the summer after that, but definitely not now.

 

[Ferrio]

shot out of the sky as a rogue aircraft. they never even had a chance to land.

They were mistaken for a hijacked jet and shot down by fighter jets.

 

[faceless007]

Quoting this from back on page 4:

The unfortunate thing is, between Evangeline Lilly's comments about the final shot of the series, combined with Lindelof's comments about the final shot of the series (in the TimesTalk, which Cuse then yelled at him about), I feel like I know exactly what will be in it (if not the circumstances).

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Anyone know exactly what Lilly interview this is referring to, and what comments at the TimesTalk? I of course avoided all interviews before last night but now I'm curious.

 

[Nameless]

By the way, the pseudo-science people who are pissed should also realize that the island's "magical power" basically is crazy electromagnetism. The show never really contradicted itself on that.

And we know this because Widmore and his team managed to apparently perfectly replicate it, since they tested it on Desmond. Desmond managed to widthstand Widmore's machine in the same way that he widthstood that magical electrified pool down in the cave. They are identical.

Now whether you want to buy that massive amounts of electromagnetic energy can cause the things it caused throughout the series, that's where one's capacity for suspension of disbelief comes into play (as well as how much you're willing to stretch the "pseudo-" prefix qualifier).

But the kicker is that it wasn't just normal electromagnetism. It was "geologically unique". In S.O.S. the "healer" Bernard takes Rose to in Australia speaks of their being many special pockets of energy around the world. Each with different properties.

The island was perhaps big kahuna of all of them.

 

[Dragon]

Wow, so you're "explaining" shit you haven't seen.
:lol :lol :lol

Nope. I've seen it. Just not recently and would like to be able to review it.

Interpret it however you want, but finding continuity errors and being like: "omg they didn't explain this they suck as writers blah blah blah" is completely missing the point of the entire show. You might as well have not watched a single episode.

 

[Zeliard]

Quoting this from back on page 4:



Anyone know exactly what Lilly interview this is referring to, and what comments at the TimesTalk? I of course avoided all interviews before last night but now I'm curious.

I don't remember exactly which interview, but yeah, it was exactly as I expected and commented in that post. Both Lilly and Lindelof's comments alluded to the ending of the show basically featuring every character (that's why I said some might consider it a cop-out). I essentially knew that would happen, so I assumed that everyone would come together in the sideways and that would be ending. It's what ended up happening, but it didn't really take away from it.

 

[KevinCow]

I bet that duct tape was magical too.

All duct tape is magical. Mythbusters proved it.

So how does Lapidus explain the return of the Ajira flight to Air Traffic Control? Some of the people returning on that plane weren't even on it to begin. There's a whole shit storm that would happen on the mainland once Ajira returned. That would be interesting to see. :lol

They don't have to lie to keep the island from Widmore anymore, so I guess they can tell the truth now.

 

[DrBo42]

I find it interested that for the more recent seasons Jacob has been regarded as this god-like benevolent figure but in the end he's like some bizarro Jesus. Countless people die over the years for his sin against MiB. It cheapens the series for me.

 

[Alucard]

But the kicker is that it wasn't just normal electromagnetism. It was "geologically unique". In S.O.S. the "healer" Bernard takes Rose to in Australia speaks of their being many special pockets of energy around the world. Each with different properties.

The island was perhaps big kahuna of all of them.

Meh, we'll just have to accept the answer of "the island is special because it's special." It sucks, but it soothes the intellectual frustration a liiiiittle bit.

 

[Kunan]

can someone explain why David was eyefucking his mom's titties? They should've reshot that!

he was shooting Jack do me now glances a few episodes ago too,

 

[Lonestar]

By the way, someone asked a ways back if Miles made it off with the diamonds, yes he did.

 

[leroy hacker]

Christian missing from his coffin on the island. Did they explain that?

Never. Christian and Yemi's corpses very explicitly disappeared but Locke's explicitly did not. It's theoretically possibly something random happened to the bodies like a bear dragging them away and there is no inconsistency(though that's very unlikely given how Yemi's body was locked behind a large stone) but I think the writers simply changed or forgot about the rules for how the smoke monster works in order to do the reveal of the real Locke in the coffin in The Incident.

 

[StuBurns]

I don't remember exactly which interview, but yeah, it was exactly as I expected and commented in that post. Both Lilly and Lindelof's comments alluded to the ending of the show basically featuring every character (that's why I said some might consider it a cop-out). I essentially knew that would happen, so I assumed that everyone would come together in the sideways and that would be ending. It's what ended up happening, but it didn't really take away from it.

Until last season's finale I always thought it'd end with at Jack's eye again, but since then I thought we'd get a couple of 'our' characters at the beach speaking MiB/Jacob like.

As much as I loved the ending, I was a little put out that the 'final image' that's been hyped so long was nothing surprising. Unless the 'final image' is the wash of heaven running thru the church, but I don't think that's the one they meant.

 

[Veidt]

Thanks!



Also, maybe it's the romantic in me, but I like to think Kate didn't have sex for the rest of her life and died holding a locket with Jack's picture on it ^_^.

re-host though, I dunno for how long they'll be up.

 

[Zeliard]

But the kicker is that it wasn't just normal electromagnetism. It was "geologically unique". In S.O.S. the "healer" Bernard takes Rose to in Australia speaks of their being many special pockets of energy around the world. Each with different properties.

The island was perhaps big kahuna of all of them.

The world is interconnected through this type of unique electromagnetism, and the island is essentially the nexus. It's the center. It's what links everything. That's probably why it couldn't be destroyed - the "light" going out would have been as everyone had predicted: the end of the world.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Eh, but if The End is sufficiently strong enough, wouldn't it tip the scales?

You're working under the "each episode has to be awesome, but it's not the level of awesome that counts" I guess.

Well yeah, isn't that how you should rate a season of a TV show? :lol

Ugh guys I'm getting depressed now. I mean what show out there even comes close to the awesomeness of LOST?

In terms of all shows in general? Plenty of good stuff out right now like Breaking Bad.

In terms of fantasy/genre/whatever shows? Supernatural comes close. Seasons 4 and 5 surpass it, often. (Okay, it doesn't surpass season 1 of Lost.)

 

[criesofthepast]

Landing Party:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7LPXH0a1Mo

This kills me...every...damn...time. :/

My last.fm profile must look ridiculous right now. Non stop Giacchino since February.

 

[Lonestar]

All duct tape is magical. Mythbusters proved it.



They don't have to lie to keep the island from Widmore anymore, so I guess they can tell the truth now.

Though, there is an obvious problem with this, beyond the fact that They (O6) lied about it in the first place.

The problem is the same problem we have when trying to explain what's happened in Lost.

They think we're talking CrazyTalk.

 

[Y2Kev]

That stuff's not important. What is important is what happens to everyone after they all die!

Well it is about the characters!
:lol

The show made very clear (unsatisfyingly to me) that the time on the island and the relationships formed on the island are the most important part of each respective character's lives. I mean, no, that's not easily digestible in every instance, but it's true. I don't buy that Shannon's 40 days were the most important in her life...but they might have been considering how utterly worthless she was.

I'm a little curious as to why they went with Baby Aaron in the church. That seems to be clearly a figment of Jack's own imagination/perception. Claire should arrive in heaven with a real understanding of what happened in real life-- Kate knew she loved Jack, for example. Claire should have had real Aaron, who was not a baby. Seems like everyone in the chapel might have been as Jack imagined them.

...which means they might not really have been there at all...

 

[Gyoru]

 

[cory]

Exposé redeemed(Storyline-wise, it was always a good episode).
Miles is rich bitches!

 

[Alucard]

So, how would you give a Cliff's Notes to someone who would want LOST quickly summed up?

-Plane crashes on an island
-Strangers who mostly suck at life have to work together to survive
-Strangers come into contact with stranger inhabitants
-Strangers develop friendships and feel the island is important to their lives
-Polar bears
-Strangers discover themselves and their purposes on the island
-Time travel, good and evil
-Strangers die but realize the island was the most important part of their lives after death
-Strangers remember who they were in life, and their time on the island
-Hugs and tears

Wait...how did Jacob know that flight 815 was going to crash on the island? Because it's ALWAYS happened and there were other Jacks, Kates, Sawyers, etc. before the ones we see now?

 

[Mercury Fred]

More later, but damn, I loved the episode. It was pretty much perfect until the last 15 minutes which were awful and out of step with the rest of the show. I'm just choosing to treat the ending as something that's not actually attached to the series.

 

[Salsa]

nope nor did they explain the webisode of Christian telling Vincent to wake up his son after the original crash, since he has work to do (which was cannon).

making up shit as they went along.

ha, i remember that

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmZMy8x5VL8&feature=related oh well

 

[BertramCooper]

All of you are going to be shocked when you discover that this thread is actually GAF Purgatory.

 

[Slacker]

Though, there is an obvious problem with this, beyond the fact that They (O6) lied about it in the first place.

The problem is the same problem we have when trying to explain what's happened in Lost.

They think we're talking CrazyTalk.

Yep, telling the truth will sound something like this:

 

[Korey]

*comic*

Who does these and where can I see all of them?

 

[jamieson87]

Just watched the last 20 minutes again.

Beautiful ending. All the characters we came to love over the past 6 years were all at peace with one another. As a non religious person, that idea of an afterlife seems very nice. Welled up when jack was hugging everyone.

Satisfied with the ending. The scene between hurley and ben at the end was particularly touching.

 

[Gyoru]

Who does these and where can I see all of them?

http://twitpic.com/photos/nedroid

It's a goldmine.

 

[Mobius 1]

Yep, telling the truth will sound something like this:

Perfect :lol :lol

 

[ZeoVGM]

Yep, telling the truth will sound something like this:

:lol

Pretty much sums up why yes, season 6 is the weakest in my eyes, no matter how amazing "The End" was.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

:lol

Yes!!!!