indigo-cyclops
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This may have been asked, but can I tie this to my Live account even if I don't have a One yet?
The free promo that is.
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Lost Odyssey |BC OT| A Thousand Years of Feels
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Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Also I'd just like to take a second and say that Jansen is the most "talks like an actual human being" character I've ever seen in a JRPG.
Thanks man, will give it another try.
Pretty common for JRPG's really since you often start the game with little access to healing magic and you have few healing items so it ends up being fairly rough til you get a few levels. I've noticed it a good bit prior.
NeOak
Member
moffattron9000
Member
So I just read the first dream. This is going to be how the game makes me feel, isn't it?
SlipperyFishes
Banned
A whole thousand years of them buddy. Get ready to feel
Android18a
Member
Haven't played this since it was new, but Jansen was always one of my favourite RPG characters. Secret best character from LO!
I forgot how Gongora's script is such mess... and it hurts a lot whenever he talks (no spoiler, it's in the prologue) :
Wise man : They say that you're an immortal ! How did you survive the meteor on the battlefield ?
Kaïm : I don't know...
Wise man : What ?! You don't remember ?!
Gongora : Err... it's because I used a spell to make him immortal, that's why he survived ! And you'll totally believe me right now.
Wise man : Oh, so you say that you can make people immortals ?!
Gongora : Err... yes.
Wise man : Then why didn't you used this magic for our army ?!
Gongora : You know, immortals are cursed, so that's why. I think.
Wise man : I see, we must then never speaks again of your ability to make people immortals.
Gongora : Phiew...
To be fair, Gongora and Tolten are, in my opinion, the worst written characters of the game but every other are great. In my current playthrough, I'm playing with english voices and they're great, way better than french ones (especially Gongora and Tolten voices) but whenever Jansen speaks, I think about ProJared (Jared Knabenbauer) !
EDIT :
And damn, tears came again at the first dream, just like in my first run.
Wise man : They say that you're an immortal ! How did you survive the meteor on the battlefield ?
Kaïm : I don't know...
Wise man : What ?! You don't remember ?!
Gongora : Err... it's because I used a spell to make him immortal, that's why he survived ! And you'll totally believe me right now.
Wise man : Oh, so you say that you can make people immortals ?!
Gongora : Err... yes.
Wise man : Then why didn't you used this magic for our army ?!
Gongora : You know, immortals are cursed, so that's why. I think.
Wise man : I see, we must then never speaks again of your ability to make people immortals.
Gongora : Phiew...
To be fair, Gongora and Tolten are, in my opinion, the worst written characters of the game but every other are great. In my current playthrough, I'm playing with english voices and they're great, way better than french ones (especially Gongora and Tolten voices) but whenever Jansen speaks, I think about ProJared (Jared Knabenbauer) !
EDIT :
And damn, tears came again at the first dream, just like in my first run.
Colbert
Banned
You need a Xbox 360 and a XBL gold subscription. With that you can move or copy your save file from your USB to the cloud save. I did it that way and had all my saves from my 1st playthrough at hand. However I started a new complete playthrough when the game went BC.
On the way to that boss you see that machines at the beach you can push and sometimes you get into a fight. One of these machines have a yellow band in it which grants you Anti-Paralysis. Train all your party members that skill and that boss fight is a walk in the park as you never get paralyzed. A good trick to trigger as many fights as you want is to use those machine pillars without looting them. Thats infinite fight triggers until everybody of the party has learned the skill.
Yeah he's great. The guy who voiced him in the US used to post on gamefaqs a lot. He said they let him adlib and that's why his character seems to be a little more natural. He always seem really nice, like maybe this was his first game so he really wanted to interact with the community. If they are archive see if you could check out some old gamefaqs threads. I'm on my cell now but if I can I'll try to find some.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Honestly, as well written as they are, they feel totally disconnected from the rest of the game.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Well it definitely wasn't his first game. He was Knuckles in Sonic Adventure, among other things.
Actually, Lost Odyssey was his last video game role.
I bought the game for my best friend, and she's convinced me more that Gongora is better than I initially gave him credit for. He's actually quite a bit more manipulative than I first thought, and his ways of torturing the immortal heroes emotionally can become legitimately sadistic.
Tolten though... Man, I love Tolten. He's such a pathetic, simpering, spineless puppet...
and eventually evolves into a strong, capable leader who idolizes the tough, salty Sed and becomes a legitimately great king.
They are a bit, I agree... but it's still a part of the game, gives the game a much-needed dose of well-executed pathos and emotion without bogging down the present narrative, and I think only feel so disconnected because they are legitimately amazing short stories that stand all on their own. I'd buy an English book of them if I could.
Yeah. There's an inner thick circle and then a larger circle shrinks down. Then the two line up, that's when you
You are supposed to press the trigger before the 2 rings line up, then release the trigger when they line up. The closer you are, the more damage you do and you get a higher chance to activate any secondary effects on the ring.
Gai Murakumo
Member
This is my first time playing it I am about a couple of hours in and man those "Thousands Years of Dreams" hands down are the best writing in any JRPG let alone gaming I have ever experienced. A couple have made me tear up already. Kaim is slowly becoming my favorite protagonist of all time because of the shit he has gone through. I cannot wait to play more, depending how the rest of the game goes this may be placed in my top 10 games of all time.
He becomes really respectable later when Cooke and Mack are introduced.
CrichtonKicks
Member
To me it's more than that. I don't feel I get any additional insight about the world or characters from the stories. It feels like the gave the shorty story writer carte blanche to write whatever he wanted given only a very high level guidance of "sad immortal." Which IIRC may have been exactly how that went down.
It feels like you'd get the same effect inserting sections from Shakespeare in the middle of Final Fantasy X.
who designs this shit -____-
4 and half hours in. digging the game so far. nothing special, but I haven't played a new turn based RPG in forever
I forgot about this lol
If you look closely you can see veins.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
Can someone briefly explain how the "rings" work during battle? I missed what it said in the tutorial and now I'm messing it up every time. What are the actual button inputs to make it work? I know it's timing based...
EDIT: never mind its right on this very page.
EDIT: never mind its right on this very page.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Just got to the part where you meet
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Holy shit. That certainly got real VERY quickly.
Cooke, Mack, and Lirum
Holy shit. That certainly got real VERY quickly.
-Stranger-
Junior Member
Loving this game 
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Valkerionseven
Member
who designs this shit -____-
4 and half hours in. digging the game so far. nothing special, but I haven't played a new turn based RPG in forever
Yeah, Ming's design was really odd imo. The other ladies are fairly conservatively dressed, but the queen of a huge nation, nah, tits, and a thong which completely clashes with her more timid personality. -shrug-
I could never forget the veiny boobs.
Just yet another friendly reminder that Holy Cow This Game is FREE right now!
... And to keep spreading the word.
... And to keep spreading the word.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
This is what will make me pull out my 360 and play this again. Thanks.
I actually REALLY REALLY enjoyed how difficult the first bosses were. This, FFXIII, and SMTIV were the only jrpgs that really challenged me in the last... 5? 10? years.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Man, this game is so clearly the Final Fantasy Sakaguchi always wanted to make.
Not yet, gotta wait until late Disc 3 or 4 before they really open up.
Don't miss getting Gamble though in that one village with the Kelolon statues (though tbh, it does trivialise the game)
GreenMonkey
Member
I enjoyed Lost Odyssey. It had a good amount of difficulty IMO. My last FF game was FFX on PS2. I died ONCE in the entire game (to that tentacled enemy that does random paralysis/stone/confuse/etc). And I don't grind at all (I did do all the side quests).
If you like Lost Odyssey's adult story and difficulty you might also like Radiant Historia on the DS. I'm about halfway through that but got distracted a while ago with DQ7 and Dark Souls 3.
Neff
Member
One of the most emotionally hard-hitting scenes of any game I've ever played. The performances and the music really push it and make it surprisingly difficult to bear.
Agreed. It's nice to be suddenly game over'd by a RPG boss and have to come back to it and actually think about what you're doing, rather than just blaze through it by using the expected tactics. Makes success all the sweeter.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I'll add to this by saying that one of the things I really love about Lost Odyssey is that so far, no battle has felt "easy". And that includes random battles. Every single battle, I've felt like I actually had to pay attention and exploit enemy weaknesses and properly defend and not just mash Attack as is so common in JRPGs.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
Thanks for the reminder.
SonofdonCD
Member
Yo, me too! I lost my mom a few years ago, so this in particular hit home. It might be the only scene in a video game to make me shed a few tears.
Just got to disk 4, and I'm loving it. The story, while it hasn't revealed all of its secrets, is way more adult than I'm used to seeing, especially in JRPGs, which lean towards having young heroes in their first real struggles. And I actually love Cooke and Mack. They act like real kids, but are rather strong-willed. They don't act hyper, or annoying in the way most storytellers tend to portray kids. Even though I don't feel like I'm Kain like you would your Commander Shepard, I do feel protective of them. I actually wish more games had that dynamic, where you had a cold and they develop the relationship in the game to the point that you naturally want to protect them.
All of the immortals have varied, interesting histories, add any bring that had lived for 1000 years would.
Overall just really enjoying my time with the game so far.
I just experienced that scene (my 1st run ever), goddamit dem feels. :'(
I'm still amazed that MS actually published that game.
Gai Murakumo
Member
Yeah I got to that part a few days ago. Man that scene hit me hard. Scenes like this along with the 1000 years of dreams stories have made me cry more than any other game in my life.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
One of the absolute best games I've played in recent years. I love this game to death.
dickroach
Member
just finished disc 2. the game's starting to lose me.
battles are becoming so tedious. the game only wants you to get to X level in any certain area, and you get there after like 5 battles, so there's a dozen meaningless battles in every area that aren't hard, but drag on. and the flee rate seems to be like 15%, even with that one ability that's supposed to guarantee a flee.
wtf's with rings? the first thing you get in the game is a ring that gives you Damage Up Lv 1, and you don't get a ring that gives you Damage Up Lv 2 till the end of the second disc? the hell is that? and all the rings you can assemble in the menu or with the NPC who does it seem pretty useless, and I've got a ton of stones/elements/whatever.
also it seems like 90% of the story in this game comes from the dreams, but I really don't wanna read a 10 minute short story once or twice every hour. I'm sure they're great but why couldn't they have just been cutscenes? at the end of disc 2 I had a whole lot of "wait, what?" from what whatshisface was saying to Seth.
that town that the gang stops in right before going to that last dungeon or whatever you wanna call it was awesome. I hopethere's more weird shit like that.
battles are becoming so tedious. the game only wants you to get to X level in any certain area, and you get there after like 5 battles, so there's a dozen meaningless battles in every area that aren't hard, but drag on. and the flee rate seems to be like 15%, even with that one ability that's supposed to guarantee a flee.
wtf's with rings? the first thing you get in the game is a ring that gives you Damage Up Lv 1, and you don't get a ring that gives you Damage Up Lv 2 till the end of the second disc? the hell is that? and all the rings you can assemble in the menu or with the NPC who does it seem pretty useless, and I've got a ton of stones/elements/whatever.
also it seems like 90% of the story in this game comes from the dreams, but I really don't wanna read a 10 minute short story once or twice every hour. I'm sure they're great but why couldn't they have just been cutscenes? at the end of disc 2 I had a whole lot of "wait, what?" from what whatshisface was saying to Seth.
that town that the gang stops in right before going to that last dungeon or whatever you wanna call it was awesome. I hopethere's more weird shit like that.
Langdon Alger
Banned
A long, bad stealth section. Followed by picking flowers, gathering sticks and lighting torches. Followed by getting poorly voice acted children in your party. And the girl, who's like seven, gets dressed in a mini-skirt and high heel boots. I don't even. This game is losing me fast.
That's the low point. I quit the game once for months at that point, might not have ever gone back to it but I'm glad I did because after that part it's awesome until the finish, and it's now one of my favorite JRPGs.