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[MIMIC]

And I noticed: Locke didn't tell anyone about the countdown incident and Kate/Claire didn't tell anyone about the other hatch.

WHY??!!

 

[Mike Works]

I don't understand how there's any question amongst them if he's an other after the look he gave Jack (or was it Sayid) at the end of the previous episode.

 

[Mr Gump]

Those clothes in the locker, didnt the guys in the boat that took walt wear beanies like the one kate was holding? I think it's a tie-in to that.

Yes

I was thinking too about the leader without a beard in the flashback, has anyone worked out for sure if its the same guy from the confrontation? Its been a couple of months now i guess since they lost claire, clearly they decided to abandon the facility after that, still, probably not long enough for him to grow the face rug.

Yes its the same guy.

The Locke thing is interesting, i think the conversation about the prisoners good hearing 2 minutes before he went nuts outside was probably no coincidence. I think he touched a nerve, locke doesnt want to be told what to do, but im sure he was just playing up for the prisoners benefit.

No he just realised he's becoming the same type of person he used to be.

I don't understand how there's any question amongst them if he's an other after the look he gave Jack (or was it Sayid) at the end of the previous episode.

Only thing i can think of is that they didnt see it, similar to how when gollum gives that evil look to sam (after he overhears his plan to kill the hobbits) and frodo doesnt see it.

 

[Dan]

And I noticed: Locke didn't tell anyone about the countdown incident and Kate/Claire didn't tell anyone about the other hatch.

WHY??!!

You're just realizing that there's a distinct lack of communication among this group of people? No one's been telling anyone anything since day one. That's probably my main complaint about the series. Too many things are stalled just because people can't find time away from sitting in sand to tell everyone else about discoveries.

 

[h1nch]

You're just realizing that there's a distinct lack of communication among this group of people? No one's been telling anyone anything since day one. That's probably my main complaint about the series. Too many things are stalled just because people can't find time away from sitting in sand to tell everyone else about discoveries.

QFT

 

[Illuminati]

I was doing a google search to see if I could find a picture from the boat scene when Walt was captured to check out the bearded dude again. An interesting image was part of the results, maybe a major possible spoiler because it looks very convincing. Don't know if it was posted before, but it's probably old:

http://home.blarg.net/~wayule/graphics/lost_others_degroots_tn.jpg

Also something to think about when I drive to work in the morning the radio station I listen to has a Lost segement that goes over the previous night's show. Someone called up with a very interesting observation, when Claire\Russo\Kate went into the nursery there were dust marks on the walls. The things that used to be hanging there left dust outlines that looked like the hyrogliphic symbols on the countdown timer from the previous episode. Perhaps someone who recorded it could double check?

 

[MagicJackBauer]

I was doing a google search to see if I could find a picture from the boat scene when Walt was captured to check out the bearded dude again. An interesting image was part of the results, maybe a major possible spoiler because it looks very convincing. Don't know if it was posted before, but it's probably old:

http://home.blarg.net/~wayule/graphics/lost_others_degroots_tn.jpg

Also something to think about when I drive to work in the morning the radio station I listen to has a Lost segement that goes over the previous night's show. Someone called up with a very interesting observation, when Claire\Russo\Kate went into the nursery there were dust marks on the walls. The things that used to be hanging there left dust outlines that looked like the hyrogliphic symbols on the countdown timer from the previous episode. Perhaps someone who recorded it could double check?

Nope. They were different kinds of cartoon animals. You could clearly see them when Claire first entered the room with Ethan. Bear, zebra, lion, palm tree with a monkey on it, hippo, etc.

 

[teiresias]

What makes people think they don't communicate? So you want a five minute scene at the end of every episode where one of the characters basically repeats the episode we just saw just so you can be assured they told someone else? I don't see why this has to be shown explicitly. The facility they found was pretty small, abandoned, stripped, and emptied, there was nothing there. Kate probably told Jack, but there's really no reason for them to return there.

 

[Fuzzy]

What makes people think they don't communicate? So you want a five minute scene at the end of every episode where one of the characters basically repeats the episode we just saw just so you can be assured they told someone else? I don't see why this has to be shown explicitly. The facility they found was pretty small, abandoned, stripped, and emptied, there was nothing there. Kate probably told Jack, but there's really no reason for them to return there.

They didn't take the time to search the entire place and could have easily missed something.

 

[gigamex]

What makes people think they don't communicate? So you want a five minute scene at the end of every episode where one of the characters basically repeats the episode we just saw just so you can be assured they told someone else? I don't see why this has to be shown explicitly. The facility they found was pretty small, abandoned, stripped, and emptied, there was nothing there. Kate probably told Jack, but there's really no reason for them to return there.

It's annoying because the show gives you the impression that every character is keeping secrets for no discernable reason. Something amazing will happen and sometimes either no one will ever speak of it or they won't speak of it until 3 episodes later. It feels weird and lost does it on purpose unfortunately sometimes to keep "mystery". Lost is about the only show where I feel this frustration acutely and it feels palpable that characters don't seem to communicate or talk about important events. Good example is Walt and Michael. Nobody even mentions them practically. Stuff like that seems odd. You don't need them talking about it every night around the campfire but lost takes the opposite approach and the characters almost never reference things that are happening or from the past unless its germane to the current plot they exploring in a particular episode.

 

[Dan]

What makes people think they don't communicate? So you want a five minute scene at the end of every episode where one of the characters basically repeats the episode we just saw just so you can be assured they told someone else? I don't see why this has to be shown explicitly.

It doesn't have to be shown explicitly, but there are numerous explicit examples throughout the series of people not communicating. Just look at tonight's show, where we learn Claire had no idea what happened to the people Danielle arrived on the island with. Or there's Michael telling no one about what went on with the computer. Or Locke and Mr. Eko not discussing their encounters with the monster. The show consistently prevents characters from discussing the really big mysteries of the island.

But still, even if we don't always need to be shown that these discoveries are being discussed by the survivors, some of these would seem pretty damned relevant and interesting to everyone. Like Claire remembering a whole bunch of shit about Ethan and crew's motives and what happened to her. After all, the guy did kill Scott.

Any bets on how many episodes it takes before Kate mentions to anyone that she found Zeke's clothing, a fake beard and glue?

 

[SFA_AOK]

Any bets on how many episodes it takes before Kate mentions to anyone that she found Zeke's clothing, a fake beard and glue?

I think that's a pretty integral clue to the "Who are the others?" question being posed, I'm sure it will come up at some point.

My mind fills in some blanks... sometimes information isn't passed on purposefully, sometimes not much time has passed and so the information hasn't travelled etc etc.

Locke's reaction made me rethink some of his motives in the first season. When he and boone were working on the hatch he didn't tell anyone - he's a control freak who wants things done his way and he wants to be in charge all the time.

 

[Great King Bowser]

That damn foghorn kept scaring the crap out of me. Consider I was watching on my laptop in bed, half-asleep and with the lights off. :lol

 

[Illuminati]

The facility they found was pretty small, abandoned, stripped, and emptied, there was nothing there. Kate probably told Jack, but there's really no reason for them to return there.

There was an escape hatch in the wall in the hallway, I must learn the significance of it.

I think that's a pretty integral clue to the "Who are the others?" question being posed, I'm sure it will come up at some point.

I'm convinced that they are members of Dharma. Why they are putting on a performance and acting like they are survivors is another question because clearly when they took Claire they looked and dressed normal. I also wonder if there are two groups of others, the one Ethan and the boat people are from, and then the other group that walk barefooted around stealing people. Then again Ethan and the other guy were talking about the list and the barefoot people also had a list so they could be just one group. Hopefully some of this crap is cleared up soon.

 

[Memles]

There was an escape hatch in the wall in the hallway, I must learn the significance of it.

I also noticed this, and was also extremely intrigued. It doesn't make any sense, in a way, to have an Escape Hatch. It was a weird way of referring to it, in my mind..."Emergency Exit" would have worked the same way. How exactly it is classified as an Escape Hatch I am unsure.

I think the largest fallacy I'm seeing right now is Rousseau. I love the character, and to an extent things make sense because she's kind of insane, but she's been on this island for 16 years. She should have managed to find a lot of these things a bit easier than she did. It just seems like she's a convenient plot point when she needs to be there, but her role on the island is just gone otherwise. She should really know the entire island by heart now, and she apparently hasn't spent much time searching for her daughter if that hatch thing was sitting right in front of her.

 

[Illuminati]

I think the largest fallacy I'm seeing right now is Rousseau. I love the character, and to an extent things make sense because she's kind of insane, but she's been on this island for 16 years. She should have managed to find a lot of these things a bit easier than she did. It just seems like she's a convenient plot point when she needs to be there, but her role on the island is just gone otherwise. She should really know the entire island by heart now, and she apparently hasn't spent much time searching for her daughter if that hatch thing was sitting right in front of her.

The other unanswered about her is, where is the repeating radio message she made located at? Her home was blown up.

And how did that old ship (Black Rock I think) she found get in the middle of the island?

 

[GilloD]

There was an escape hatch in the wall in the hallway, I must learn the significance of it.

I'm convinced that they are members of Dharma. Why they are putting on a performance and acting like they are survivors is another question because clearly when they took Claire they looked and dressed normal. I also wonder if there are two groups of others, the one Ethan and the boat people are from, and then the other group that walk barefooted around stealing people. Then again Ethan and the other guy were talking about the list and the barefoot people also had a list so they could be just one group. Hopefully some of this crap is cleared up soon.

I guess the intent is to conceal their purpose. Both hatches were pretty well hidden. I think the whole 'mountain man' thing is a show to keep the survivors from poking around, a kind of 'Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain'-thing. They were cool around Claire because A- She was high 24/7 and B- They were going to kill her. What I'm confused about is that they all seem to be doctors AND military combat experts. I'm not alledging super-soldiers, but they seem to be very good at a lot of things.

My theory: There are a lot of sociological and scientific experiments that are completely unethical to try, well, anywhere with a system of law. The island is a great place to give them a run, provided they keep it secret.

 

[Juno]

One of the better episodes I've seen this season. Some good info coming out - like the glue, hat and fake beard. That threw me...

I'm wondering, what episode has this video featuring 3 scientists?

I've just checked What Kate Did? and that only has the main scientist (looks Korean, pardon my ignorance if incorrect) and just him. I can't find any footage featuring other scientists on the video.

If someone could post the episode and when-abouts I'd much appreciate it.

 

[Mr Gump]

One of the better episodes I've seen this season. Some good info coming out - like the glue, hat and fake beard. That threw me...

I'm wondering, what episode has this video featuring 3 scientists?

I've just checked What Kate Did? and that only has the main scientist (looks Korean, pardon my ignorance if incorrect) and just him. I can't find any footage featuring other scientists on the video.

If someone could post the episode and when-abouts I'd much appreciate it.

Would have to be the 3rd episode of the season with desmond telling them the film is in the bookcase right?

 

[Quadrophenic]

The other unanswered about her is, where is the repeating radio message she made located at? Her home was blown up.

And how did that old ship (Black Rock I think) she found get in the middle of the island?

The French Lady told Hurley or Sayid or someone where the transmission was being sent from, however it is in the Other's territory and she cannot return to it. For some reason I thought the transmission was being sent from the Black Rock, but I might be mistaken.