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Lota Vs Toilet Paper

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Barberetti said:
Yeah, and when you use the TP and babywipe method, there's .. ?



I'm not making it out to be any sort of deal. Like I said, it's just knowing how to get your arse clean, it's not fucking rocket science.


There is always some dried shit left in your ass crack that smells using the TP/babywipe method.

You want proof?

Use toilet paper one day, and take your shower in the evening. Stick a finger down there before the shower and see if it doesn't smell.
 
Honestly I think that whole lota thing is very odd. I could never take shit out of my ass using my bare hands.

Also, in the same vain as this thread, what do you guys perfer:

A western style toilet:
toilet030810.jpg


or


A squat toilet (common in east asian countries):

220px-Squat-toilet-with-tank.jpg
 
justin12140 said:
Honestly I think that whole lota thing is very odd. I could never take shit out of my ass using my bare hands.

Also, in the same vain as this thread, what do you guys perfer:

A western style toilet:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/toilet030810.jpg[img]

or


A squat toilet (common in east asian countries):

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Squat-toilet-with-tank.jpg/220px-Squat-toilet-with-tank.jpg[img][/QUOTE]


Well, from what I've read the squat style is more healthy for you.

But the western style is more comfortable. Though your legs can fall asleep during an extended stay.
 
Squat toilets are fucking barbaric. Not to mention unsanitary as fuck in public restrooms, where people basically shit and piss wherever they please.


Yes, I have used them.
 
Obviously all of this stems from the cultural differences (tied to environmental restrictions).
In hot, arid places (where trees & leaves are scarce) ppl. used their hands, sand, stones to wipe their ass, while Europe, Asia used vegetation (wat). This is most likely how toilet paper vs. hand+water developed.
At some point this crap became tied to religion was spread with islamic imperialism (and thus practiced in colder, wet places)
It's the same shit as with refusal of pork (because pork would spoil easier & cause disease in hot climate) or doing circumcisions (among other reasons: scarcity of water: hygienic reasons). Notice how Jews & Muslims, African tribal ppl. or say ancient Egyptians share the same practices..

Once I had a talk about this with former friend of mine (half Turk, half Tunisian). As a child, when he started to wipe his own ass his mom (Turkish) tried to make him use babywipes, but his dad (Tunisian) would force him to do the hand+water thing & even sent him to the Imam to get the Islamic toilet etiquette down (not sure to which extent).
Since his dad died he kinda tried to remember/honor his ways so he also started to do the hand+water thing. Once even did it at my place: took out a small bottle of water out of his backpack and went to the restroom (this is also when the whole conversation came up)..
 
Funky Papa said:
Squat toilets are fucking barbaric. Not to mention unsanitary as fuck in public restrooms.


Yes, I have used them.

Have a gander at the barbaric advantages:

Wikipedia said:
It is less expensive and easier to clean and maintain.

It does not involve any contact between the buttocks and thighs with a potentially unsanitary surface.

Squatting might help to build the required exhaust pressure more comfortably and quickly.

Squatting makes elimination faster, easier and more complete.

Elimination in squatting posture protects the nerves that control the prostate, bladder and uterus from becoming stretched and damaged.

Squatting relaxes the puborectalis muscle which normally chokes the rectum in order to maintain continence.

Squatting securely seals the ileocecal valve, between the colon and the small intestine. In the conventional sitting position, this valve is unsupported and often leaks during evacuation.

For pregnant women, squatting avoids pressure on the uterus when using the toilet. Daily squatting helps prepare the mother-to-be for a more natural delivery.

Squatting may reduce the occurrence or severity of hemorrhoids and possibly other colorectal disorders such as diverticulosis and appendicitis.

So actually more sanitary?
 
gburgess10 said:
Its not just as clean, that's the problem. Tell me it is just as clean after using the lota technique.

A day where I use public restrooms and come home to take a shower, I always notice some small residue of dried shit down there during my shower- no matter how much I've wiped.

Never notice that shit with the lota.



You have Superman's eyes bro. Get rich on that shit at a Casino- read someone's cards in a far off reflection or something.

Can you smell the shit too?

How the fuck is it not as clean? Do you understand how physics work? With baby wipe you're using something that has texture, something that has some absorbent qualities, and you're STILL USING YOUR HAND/FINGERS.

Are you sticking your finger all the way up your butthole or something? If so, there's nothing more to discuss.

Also, I don't even use babywipes and I NEVER have noticed a residue of dried shit in my ass. Ever. Not one time. Sound like you are a pretty incompetant asswiper. One whose opinions on ass cleanliness I simply cannot trust.
 
i don't understand. when i'm in the shower and i'm washing my ass, i use my hand and soap, but i'm naked so the water runs down my legs and is continuously washed off by more water so i feel clean.

if you're using one of these things, the water would run down your leg too. except you have shoes and socks on, and pants around your ankles, and you're not standing over a drain, and there isn't a ton more water coming to wash it all away. i would feel like a filthy piece of shit with shit water on my legs and pants and in my shoes and socks and all over the bathroom floor.
 
OG Kush said:
you must have some retarded hands.. i took a shit an hour ago and smelled them right after i washed them WITH SOAP and they didn't smell. Infact I just smelled now again and they smell fine.


ITT people admit to getting shit all over their hands
 
justin12140 said:
Honestly I think that whole lota thing is very odd. I could never take shit out of my ass using my bare hands.

Also, in the same vain as this thread, what do you guys perfer:

A western style toilet:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/toilet030810.jpg[img]

or


A squat toilet (common in east asian countries):

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Squat-toilet-with-tank.jpg/220px-Squat-toilet-with-tank.jpg[img][/QUOTE]With the western style you also have to specify whether it's the awful one where your poop splashes right into the water or the superior one where it hits ceramic first and you don't have to worry about anything
 
Timedog said:
How the fuck is it not as clean? Do you understand how physics work? With baby wipe you're using something that has texture, something that has some absorbent qualities, and you're STILL USING YOUR HAND/FINGERS.

Are you sticking your finger all the way up your butthole or something? If so, there's nothing more to discuss.

Also, I don't even use babywipes and I NEVER have noticed a residue of dried shit in my ass. Ever. Not one time. Sound like you are a pretty incompetant asswiper. One whose opinions on ass cleanliness I simply cannot trust.


Well, I don't carry baby Wipes with me either. I'm talking about plain TP in public restrooms.

As for the TP + Wipes, that does take longer then a simple rinse + hand.

diddles said:
i don't understand. when i'm in the shower and i'm washing my ass, i use my hand and soap, but i'm naked so the water runs down my legs and is continuously washed off by more water so i feel clean.

if you're using one of these things, the water would run down your leg too. except you have shoes and socks on, and pants around your ankles, and you're not standing over a drain, and there isn't a ton more water coming to wash it all away. i would feel like a filthy piece of shit with shit water on my legs and pants and in my shoes and socks and all over the bathroom floor.


Yea, that never happens.
 
Why is it an either/or thing? All the countries I've been to with squat toilets have had both bidets and toilet paper, keeping you as clean and dry as possible.

And squat toilets are more comfortable imo.


diddles said:
i don't understand. when i'm in the shower and i'm washing my ass, i use my hand and soap, but i'm naked so the water runs down my legs and is continuously washed off by more water so i feel clean.

if you're using one of these things, the water would run down your leg too. except you have shoes and socks on, and pants around your ankles, and you're not standing over a drain, and there isn't a ton more water coming to wash it all away. i would feel like a filthy piece of shit with shit water on my legs and pants and in my shoes and socks and all over the bathroom floor.

Dude, you're supposed to be squatting when you pour the water down your backside....
 
gburgess10 said:
Have a gander at the barbaric advantages:
Squat toilets are more often than not surrounded by all kinds of nastiness. There's no way I'm dropping my pants in a hole-in-the-floor restroom, let alone slipping in one of them. If a toilet seat is nasty:

a) I move to the next one
b) I use a paper cover (which I do anyways)

Also, I urinate like a racehorse, so I'd rather not splatter my shoes with fucking piss.
 
gburgess10 said:
There is always some dried shit left in your ass crack that smells using the TP/babywipe method.

You want proof?

Use toilet paper one day, and take your shower in the evening. Stick a finger down there before the shower and see if it doesn't smell.
I always wipe and fold and wipe again until they stay near white. So no, I don't have shit left in my ass crack that smells.
 
Timedog said:
That doesn't even address the main point of my post.


Let's see then:

I feel like my hands are still clean despite the use of the lota method. As clean as they would be with Wipes + TP.

Wipes cost more money than water.

You save on TP with the lota method.

How I was raised = I don't see a problem with the lota method.

If you think my hands are more dirty than yours (they aren't), then I guess that could be a problem.
 
gburgess10 said:
As for the TP + Wipes, that does take longer then a simple rinse + hand.
I fail to see how it's faster or superior to spray your ass with that water can, wipe your ass with your hand, and, with your hand drenched in smelly water and your asshole dripping shitty water all over, take the time to dry off your dripping ass with TP anyway, then pull up your pants and fasten them with your dry hand if you HAVE a dry hand that is, then wash your hands extra well.

Versus spending maybe 20 seconds wiping and flushing with a wet wipe...

Dirty dirty Americans, amirite?
 
gburgess10 said:
Let's see then:

I feel like my hands are still clean despite the use of the lota method. As clean as they would be with Wipes + TP.

Wipes cost more money than water.

You save on TP with the lota method.

How I was raised = I don't see a problem with the lota method.

If you think my hands are more dirty than yours (they aren't), then I guess that could be a problem.

That's fine, I guess. If it were a choice between rubbing my fingers into my poopy ass and getting poop lodged underneath my fingernails or spending money on TP, I personally would choose the latter.

Also, yeah, your hands are dirtier. You have way more microscopic poop particles on your hands than other people do. That is a fact. Go rub your hands in freshly pressed garlic. See how many hand washings it takes for you to get all the microscopic particles off so that it doesn't smell.

Sick.
 
cakefoo said:
I fail to see how it's faster or superior to spray your ass with that water can, wipe your ass with your hand, and, with your hand drenched in smelly water and your asshole dripping shitty water all over, take the time to dry off your dripping ass with TP anyway, then pull up your pants and fasten them with your dry hand if you HAVE a dry hand that is, then wash your hands extra well.

Versus spending maybe 20 seconds wiping and flushing with a wet wipe...

Dirty dirty Americans, amirite?

Using your hands is fucked up. Most people use toilet paper to get the large particles, then spray it with water using a bidet to completely eliminate any tiny particles of poop and even remove some dingleberries, then they dab with toilet paper until it's completely dry.

Their is no superior method that only uses the lota or only uses toilet paper.

Using pitchers of water is too clumsy most of the time, I'd just use a handheld bidet that actually has some pressure.
 
doesnt wet wipes clog up the toilet?
and seriously someone for the love of God answer me how ppl with hairy arses can clean their arses with just TP?
 
Timedog said:
You carry Iota around with you all day just so you don't have to use toilet paper. Interesting speech.
I carry wet wipes with me when I use the public restroom but those are easily place in my pocket. Watching someone carry a fucking Kool-Aid jugg into bathroom stall with them would be some funny ass shit.
 
OG Kush said:
doesnt wet wipes clog up the toilet?
and seriously someone for the love of God answer me how ppl with hairy arses can clean their arses with just TP?
More paper and more wipes. I'm a bit of a hairy beast, so in my case I just resort to the bidet for those stubborn shits.
 
OG Kush said:
doesnt wet wipes clog up the toilet?
and seriously someone for the love of God answer me how ppl with hairy arses can clean their arses with just TP?

poop almost never gets in the hair, and I have a super hairy ass. I have literally PERFECTED the art of shitting though. I could write a fucking book on it. HOLY SHIT THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT IDEA.

I officially have 2 books I'm now working on.
 
I've never heard of lota things. But it kinda makes sense. I always feel wiping with papers is not enough...

justin12140 said:
Honestly I think that whole lota thing is very odd. I could never take shit out of my ass using my bare hands.

Also, in the same vain as this thread, what do you guys perfer:

A western style toilet:
toilet030810.jpg


or


A squat toilet (common in east asian countries):

220px-Squat-toilet-with-tank.jpg

I prefer using a squat one in public toilets.
 
Cleaning your poop by rubbing it with your hands is absolutely barbaric and disgusting. No telling how much feces is under your fingernails even after washing with soap; I hope you don't prepare food for people.
 
No man should have to touch his own shit. I would imagine, the people who use Lota aspire to one day use toilet paper.
Those Asian toilets look terrible too. Wouldnt the area around the hole in the ground be covered in urine in many public toilets? The risk of slipping would be quite high wouldnt it? Also, what would old people (with bad knees) do? Piss all over the floor before falling into the hole?
 
LordCanti said:
They totally clog any toilet I've ever used them in. Worth it though, for the cleanliness that they provide compared to awful TP.
You're doing it wrong. You use TP first and then wet wipes for clean up. I've never used more than two wet wipes total.
 
MWS Natural said:
You're doing it wrong. You use TP first and then wet wipes for clean up. I've never used more than two wet wipes total.

I've foregone TP entirely. It's easier to just deploy the baby wipes from the start. Yeah, it'll clog a toilet, but it's worth it.
 
Maybe he's using big wet wipes? Maybe he could rip the wet wipe in half before using it.

I need to try the wet wipe method for my book. I need to live and breathe shitting.
 
Hoya Destroyer said:
The risk of slipping would be quite high wouldnt it? Also, what would old people (with bad knees) do? Piss all over the floor before falling into the hole?

if you don't use it you lose it

westerners are so used to sitting on their arse that a simple squat gives them the shits :P
 
Timedog said:
Maybe he's using big wet wipes? Maybe he could rip the wet wipe in half before using it.

I need to try the wet wipe method for my book. I need to live and breathe shitting.

Big, thick wet wipes that prevent any and all hand to shit contact, while blissfully gliding across your ass like a silk sheet.

The pinnacle of shit removal technology, especially when combined with a bidet (which I don't have, because I'm an American and we don't spray our assholes with water for some reason).
 
No question the first step toward collective hygiene is taking rubbing feces and water all over your hand off the table. Sure, I trust myself to wash my hands three times with soap and boiling water like a surgeon. But do I want to live in a society where I have to trust that everyone else takes the same care with their feces-covered hands? No - so that leaves the lota out of the running.

TP removes that problem but can be rough and do an incomplete job, so it's a step up but not perfect. As has been wisely observed by others, wipes are the best of both worlds and the truly civilized manual option.
 
gburgess10 said:
Well, from what I've read the squat style is more healthy for you.

But the western style is more comfortable. Though your legs can fall asleep during an extended stay.


Honestly can't imagine your legs falling asleep unless you are

A. Morbidly obese and your gut on top of your legs makes them fall asleep?
or
B. Insanely sick with food poisoning so that you are on the toilet half a night.
 
Verendus said:
Man, bunch of nasty people in here.

It's 2011, why the fuck would you only use toilet paper?

Toilet paper to wipe your ass. Then an ass-washer or bidet to finish off. Then some paper to dry off. Filty ass twats. Get to it.

Pretty much this!! Use toilet paper first, then a bidet to wash the rest/remove toilet paper crumbles.
 
LordCanti said:
... used my hand.

Wait a minute....

FUCK

This was my first real experience with the 'lota'. I was quite anxious and hesitant, actually. But I convinced myself I'd rather not get up with shit in my ass, so poured water. A lot of water. The thinking was the worst, or in other words, the most would be washed away by the gush of the water. Then I quickly splashed my hand (whilst pouring water with the other hand) and within three seconds all you can feel is your smooth butt, and so the rest of the effort feels like washing any other part of your skin. After pouring more water and getting up, there was nothing on my hand - or at least nothing visible. Spent a couple of minutes washing my hands and I felt silly for being so disgusted initially.

We tend to presume the worst, and so conjure some Jurassic Park level shit (remember that scene?) in our minds and wonder how we'd ever manage to go through that with our lovely, civilised, hands. But it's nothing like that. You get used to it after a while and you always walk out with your ass cleaner than your face.

I hope someone actually attempts this for the first time after reading this thread and gives their impressions afterwards. It'd be my most eagerly anticipated review.
 
Barberetti said:
Dude!

Meus, happened once and I had to use a plastic bag. That's all I'm sayin' :p

I was in a public restroom, which I never use (but I didn't have much of a choice). I got in there, did my business, and then opened up those stupid TP protectors they have in some restrooms to find that there was no TP. My options were really my hand, or some combination of my underwear and socks (which I would have left in the trash to smell up the bathroom, I guess). I opted for my hand. I scooped poo up as best I could, and then flushed. In the clean water post-flush, I cleaned the poo off of my hands (without soap obviously) so they were clean enough to present myself to the room full of other dudes. I washed my hands, casually, and then sauntered back into another stall (which probably seemed odd to people, but whatever) to finish the job of actually completely wiping.

Not pleasant, for sure.

Smellycat said:
ITT people who jack off everyday and get cum on their hands try to bring down people who use tp and water to wash their asses.

Pfft, that's bush league. I've got a fancy Japanese contraption that captures all of it for me.
 
Smellycat said:
ITT people who jack off everyday and get cum on their hands try to bring down people who use tp and water to wash their asses.

Wonder how many opposing voices here smoke, too.


LordCanti said:
I was in a public restroom, which I never use (but I didn't have much of a choice). I got in there, did my business, and then opened up those stupid TP protectors they have in some restrooms to find that there was no TP. My options were really my hand, or some combination of my underwear and socks (which I would have left in the trash to smell up the bathroom, I guess). I opted for my hand. I scooped poo up as best I could, and then flushed. In the clean water post-flush, I cleaned the poo off of my hands (without soap obviously) so they were clean enough to present myself to the room full of other dudes. I washed my hands, casually, and then sauntered back into another stall (which probably seemed odd to people, but whatever) to finish the job of actually completely wiping.

Not pleasant, for sure.

You had no water? Not a fair comparison then. Would you be willing to 'restart the level' with water? Lol @ combination of socks and underwear
 
Meus Renaissance said:
You had no water? Not a fair comparison then. Would you be willing to 'restart the level' with water? Lol @ combination of socks and underwear

If I'm going anywhere that requires a bag of some kind, I usually just throw a package of wet wipes in there so that such a situation never occurs again.

Also, no, I'll never touch my bare asshole with my hands again.
 
Toilet paper and baby wipes for me. If i get even a speck of shit on my hands, I wash my hands repeatedly. Can't imagine using just my hand and water. Think of all the fecal matter that gets trapped under the fingernails!
 
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