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[agrajag]

Do you seriously believe that everyone is religiously making sure their hands don't come into contact with the fold of the paper that will eventually touch their anus? Hell, who is to say that toilet paper is even sterile to begin with?

This is really a moot point that should be dropped, I think. It's not like there's been a major anal infection outbreak either among TP users or hand scoopeers.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

You scrape the shit out of your ass with your bare hands??

wh..

why would you do that that is nasty

we're done here.

wtf.

someone please list the countries that use this tea kettle system. so that I know to never shake hands there or eat anything prepared by hand.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Pot, meet kettle.

Poo, meet hand.

 

[neutralgamer02]

Do you seriously believe that everyone is religiously making sure their hands don't come into contact with the fold of the paper that will eventually touch their anus? Hell, who is to say that toilet paper is even sterile to begin with?

Just like there are some people who don't wash their hands after using the restroom, I am sure there are people who don't do that.

It doesn't really matter if toilet paper is sterile or not since you would be using a baby wipe afterwards.

 

[LordCanti]

This is really a moot point that should be dropped, I think. It's not like there's been a major anal infection outbreak either among TP users or hand scoopeers.

I'm just trying to save people the time they spend washing their hands before they shit, and then wipe the shit off with their hands and water. That's all I'm attempting to accomplish here.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I'm just trying to save people the time they spend washing their hands before they shit, and then wipe the shit off with their hands and water. That's all I'm attempting to accomplish here.

Trying to argue people out of their rituals, especially when they're harmless and by all standards possibly beneficial, is a prettttttty tough task.

IDK, I don't wash my hands before poop. Hell, half the time I don't even wash afterwards. I don't eat a lot of meat or bread so its usually smoooooooth sailing.

 

[neutralgamer02]

I'm just trying to save people the time they spend washing their hands before they shit, and then wipe the shit off with their hands and water. That's all I'm attempting to accomplish here.

Even if you save that time, it still takes longer to use a lota compared to any of the other methods of cleaning your ass other than taking a shower.

 

[zoukka]

Hell, half the time I don't even wash afterwards.

Please. Do it for the sake of your loved ones.

 

[DJ88]

Man, I can't believe the level of overreacting in this thread. I had never heard of this method before today, and at first it did sound pretty disgusting. But after reading, and having an open mind (unlike a lot of people) it doesn't sound as bad as many of you are making it out to be. Christ, judging by some of the reactions, you'd think people were scooping the shit out of their asses and eating it.

Sounds like the water from the lota washes most of the shit out before having to use your hand. I honestly don't see it that different than cleaning your ass in the shower. Now, I still prefer using TP and wipes whenever possible, and I'm not gonna rush out today to go get me a lota for the bathroom, but damn I'm not going be a little girl about other people using it either.

 

[vatstep]

someone please list the countries that use this tea kettle system. so that I know to never shake hands there or eat anything prepared by hand.

I can't help but notice how many guys in public restrooms don't even use soap, and instead just rinse their hands quickly with water. I refuse to believe that everyone who uses the lota method is cleaning their hands as well as they should. Disgusting.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Please. Do it for the sake of your loved ones.

I have no loved ones.

I have awesome hygiene. I prepare a lot of food. I wash my hands all the time. I also pretty much exclusively poop sometime between 9am and 10am. Which is pre-shower anyway. NeoGAF now knows way too much about me.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I can't help but notice how many guys in public restrooms don't even use soap, and instead just rinse their hands quickly with water. I refuse to believe that everyone who uses the lota method is cleaning their hands as well as they should. Disgusting.

I agree, but even then...there's a difference between holding your dick with 2 or 3 fingers...and scooping shit out of your ass.

fuck man, urine is sterile. shit, on the other hand...

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I met a german dude who was living in thailand and he said the hose by the toilet that you wash your asshole with is the greatest invention, it's just cleaner.

I labelled him crazy and never tried it, because water in my ass at someone elses place, it just seemed like disaster potential.

 

[Klyka]

Man, you people shit into TOILETS?

Here in Germany we shit on eachother's chests, try cleaning that stuff up, it's an ordeal I tell you!

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I just pooped and had an interesting observation.

With indoor toilets and plumbing being the norm in our culture poop has disappeared from our everyday lives. I couldn't understand why people were acting so disgusted and appalled, but I realized its because we've become so abstracted from our poop that for intents purposes we've made it cease to exist. I bet its totally the norm to not even see your own poop. You sit down, do the deed, clean up, then you stand and flush. The whole process is so polite. You go in your little white room with a picture of a single lone sailboat hanging on one of the few places there is actually exposed sheetrock and browse the internet on your phone for a while. The poop has become completely incidental.

Oh man, and then you get to thinking about baby poop. They just feed off the mother's breastmilk and process it and then shit it out real quick. Its like the mother's breast milk is just flowing through their body. AHHHHHHHH this is weird.

 

[Britprog]

Reading this tread reminded me of a song in Diary of a bad man 8 The Lota Riddem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn3OpQez8DU&feature=youtu.be&t=6m54s

NO TUNDA PHANI YOU KOTA!!!

 

[Jeels]

Could you warn me plese: Which half of the world? So I don´t touch their hands :/

Asia

Also, come on, this is the entire reason Japanese toilets squirt out water. Water > Paper

 

[RustyNails]

No. Are you seeing things?

As a side note, squat toilets were popular in Europe a long time ago.

Not at all. I think it's a fairly liberal use of the word to describe the manner in which half the world uses to relieve themselves. Not every country in the world has 5 gallons of water sitting on tanks which they can use to flush away pee or poop. Squat toilets are extremely efficient and environmental conscience for countries where water is a valued commodity, or where the infrastructure cannot afford to waste so much water.

 

[Xeke]

I just pooped and had an interesting observation.

With indoor toilets and plumbing being the norm in our culture poop has disappeared from our everyday lives. I couldn't understand why people were acting so disgusted and appalled, but I realized its because we've become so abstracted from our poop that for intents purposes we've made it cease to exist. I bet its totally the norm to not even see your own poop. You sit down, do the deed, clean up, then you stand and flush. The whole process is so polite. You go in your little white room with a picture of a single lone sailboat hanging on one of the few places there is actually exposed sheetrock and browse the internet on your phone for a while. The poop has become completely incidental.

Oh man, and then you get to thinking about baby poop. They just feed off the mother's breastmilk and process it and then shit it out real quick. Its like the mother's breast milk is just flowing through their body. AHHHHHHHH this is weird.

I always look at and admire my poop.

 

[F#A#Oo]

Reading this tread reminded me of a song in Diary of a bad man 8 The Lota Riddem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn3OpQez8DU&feature=youtu.be&t=6m54s

NO TUNDA PHANI YOU KOTA!!!

lol...

 

[Sennorin]

Damn asia. But France and Italy also have nasty toilets, the ones where you cannot sit down but have to hover above a hole. Had me terrified when I was on holidays there. Always sneaked into the women´s toilets at like 5 a.m. so nobody saw me.

Man, you people shit into TOILETS?

Here in Germany we shit on eachother's chests, try cleaning that stuff up, it's an ordeal I tell you!

What Germany are you talking about? Certainly not mine :/

 

[Dark Stalkers]

Man, you people shit into TOILETS?

Here in Germany we shit on eachother's chests, try cleaning that stuff up, it's an ordeal I tell you!

Try shitting into each other's mouths. Greatest American invention ever.

 

[cakefoo]

Not only are wet/baby wipes less gross overall, but they're considerably more effective, they're much easier to use, they're faster and more convenient, less embarrassing, and there's no chance whatsoever of making a mess during the process.

 

[Barberetti]

Don't really need a defense force for what half of the world does...

Oh, so if enough people do something then that makes it ok? The millions of people who victimize minorities on a daily basis will be pleased to hear that, I'm sure.

Could you warn me plese: Which half of the world? So I don´t touch their hands :/

someone please list the countries that use this tea kettle system. so that I know to never shake hands there or eat anything prepared by hand.

OG Kush was kind enough to compile a quick list here.

 

[zoukka]

Not only are wet/baby wipes less gross overall, but they're considerably more effective, they're much easier to use, they're faster and more convenient, less embarrassing, and there's no chance whatsoever of making a mess during the process.

Do you think, people who have been using alternative methods would be quite skillfull of not making a mess? Also how is something objectively embarrassing?

 

[Fallout-NL]

I do use paper, but if possible I shower after. If my schedule doesn't allow a shower after, I use water (after having used paper).


Paper by itself doesn't cut it.

 

[cakefoo]

Do you think, people who have been using alternative methods would be quite skillfull of not making a mess?

I can't imagine that, no. Not when you're dealing with water physics. When eating cereal I still once in a while suffer from milk dribbling down my neck.

Also how is something objectively embarrassing?

In my country, the USA, carrying around a metal flowerpot to the public restroom would be embarrassing. Same with if someone came over and asked what the flowerpot in the bathroom was for. You're not going to talk an American into doing that.

On the other hand, how are wet wipes embarrassing to you?

P.S. You've only challenged (and with not much success) two of the several reasons wet wipes are superior. Good luck.

 

[iammeiam]

I wonder...

I'd imagine most Americans are probably repulsed by the idea of picking up dog shit bare-handed, even in the case of an indoor accident where they could sanitize their hands immediately after.

Does a culture that uses the water-and-hand-scoop method of rectal cleansing find the idea as gross? Or is the approach more rational, in that you can wash the germs off so it's not that bad?

I can't wrap my head around using a lota, so now I'm curious about other potential differences in poo-related opinion that might result.

 

[gburgess10]

I can't imagine that, no. Not when you're dealing with water physics. When eating cereal I still once in a while suffer from milk dribbling down my neck.

In my country, the USA, carrying around a metal flowerpot to the public restroom would be embarrassing. Same with if someone came over and asked what the flowerpot in the bathroom was for. You're not going to talk an American into doing that.

On the other hand, how are wet wipes embarrassing to you?

P.S. You've only challenged (and with not much success) two of the several reasons wet wipes are superior. Good luck.

Imagination has nothing to do with reality. I've never had a mess. Maybe someone uncoordinated like you can make a mess, like you do with cereal on a regular basis.

No one carries a lota to the bathroom, I don't know what ever gave you the impression anyone ever did. No one even implied that.

Do you carry about baby wipes with you everywhere? What do you do when you don't have them? That's right, you use the fucking TP. And that's what lota users do in public restrooms. Common fucking sense. (As a side note, some people just use disposable water bottles as their restroom lotas).

How much are those baby wipes costing you yearly by the way bro? I know how much the lota cost me is definitely less. And more environmentally friendly.

we're done here.

wtf.

someone please list the countries that use this tea kettle system. so that I know to never shake hands there or eat anything prepared by hand.

Guess you're never eating Indian food again.

 

[zoukka]

P.S. You've only challenged (and with not much success) two of the several reasons wet wipes are superior. Good luck.

Challenge? Why should I need to challenge something aimed for babies and used by grown ass men...

 

[Codeblue]

Why not use the kettle with toilet paper?

My issue with this is that soap is not as effective as people seem to think it is. Anyone who's taken an introductry microbiology course would be able to tell you this.

 

[gburgess10]

Why not use the kettle with toilet paper?

My issue with this is that soap is not as effective as people seem to think it is. Anyone who's taken an introductry microbiology course would be able to tell you this.

The soap isn't about killing the germs here (though that is a part), its about cleaning the shit.

 

[Salmonax]

It's so simple.

Me using a lota and washing my hands like a surgeon = fine. I have little problem with the thing itself and I know I'm a clean freak.

Trusting that others who use the lota sufficiently wash their hands = not fine. I don't know that other people have the same standard for cleaning their fecal hands. That makes it a no-go.

In many of the countries that use lotas, using your left hand (your wiping hand) for anything else is considered rude. That means the phobia of feces hands has actually become a part of the culture. I'm assuming there's a reason for that, and I'll pass on that whole scene.

 

[Codeblue]

What I'm saying is that you are still going to have E. Coli on your hands.

 

[neutralgamer02]

Imagination has nothing to do with reality. I've never had a mess. Maybe someone uncoordinated like you can make a mess, like you do with cereal on a regular basis.

No one carries a lota to the bathroom, I don't know what ever gave you the impression anyone ever did. No one even implied that.

Do you carry about baby wipes with you everywhere? What do you do when you don't have them? That's right, you use the fucking TP. And that's what lota users do in public restrooms. Common fucking sense. (As a side note, some people just use disposable water bottles as their restroom lotas).

How much are those baby wipes costing you yearly by the way bro? I know how much the lota cost me is definitely less. And more environmentally friendly.

So, let me get this straight. In public they use toilet paper and in private they use a lota? Is that what you are saying? Why have both systems? Seems incredible inefficient.

 

[Lunchbox]

wet toilet paper > all

-rubbing your ass with dry paper does not mean its clean, youre just spreading your shit over the asshole
-finger is nasty


get the best of both worlds and be clean

 

[filler]

If you're willing to go through with all of the hassle of using a lota, why not just jump in the shower?

 

[gburgess10]

So, let me get this straight. In public they use toilet paper and in private they use a lota? Is that what you are saying? Why have both systems? Seems incredible inefficient.

In American public restrooms, where is the Lota, and where is the accessible sink to utilize it?

In Asian countries, all public restrooms have lotas.

Most Indian restaurants have lotas in their restrooms in America.

I don't see the "incredible inefficiency", so can you point it out to me in detail. Please.

You know, because you don't use baby wipe in public restroom, your system very inefficient. Yes that makes sense. (No it doesn't).

If you're willing to go through with all of the hassle of using a lota, why not just jump in the shower?

It's not nearly as much of a hassle as a shower is.

What I'm saying is that you are still going to have E. Coli on your hands.

Yes, you have E.coli on them no matter what system you use. Do you have a point you are trying to make besides that?

 

[neutralgamer02]

In American public restrooms, where is the Lota, and where is the accessible sink to utilize it?

In Asian countries, all public restrooms have lotas.

Most Indian restaurants have lotas in their restrooms in America.

I don't see the "incredible inefficiency", so can you point it out to me in detail. Please.

You know, because you don't use baby wipe in public restroom, your system very inefficient. Yes that makes sense. (No it doesn't).




It's not nearly as much of a hassle as a shower is.



Yes, you have E.coli on them no matter what system you use. Do you have a point you are trying to make besides that?

Typing fast and didn't proofread. What I meant was incredibly inefficient.

What you typed made it seem like they use toilet paper in public restrooms in places where lotas are commonly used.

Imagination has nothing to do with reality. I've never had a mess. Maybe someone uncoordinated like you can make a mess, like you do with cereal on a regular basis.

No one carries a lota to the bathroom, I don't know what ever gave you the impression anyone ever did. No one even implied that.

Do you carry about baby wipes with you everywhere? What do you do when you don't have them? That's right, you use the fucking TP. And that's what lota users do in public restrooms. Common fucking sense. (As a side note, some people just use disposable water bottles as their restroom lotas).

How much are those baby wipes costing you yearly by the way bro? I know how much the lota cost me is definitely less. And more environmentally friendly.

So, what you are saying is that there are public lotas in whatever place lotas are commonly used? To that I say, that is disgusting. You are basically trusting that nobody contaminated the lota before you used it. What kind of system is that? People essentially share a lota in public then.

 

[filler]

Getting shit all over your hands seems like a good deal of a hassle to me.

 

[Count Dookkake]

I want a Lota-GAF t-shirt. Maybe something with fingerprints.

 

[gburgess10]

Typing fast and didn't proofread. What I meant was incredibly inefficient.

What you typed made it seem like they use toilet paper in public restrooms in places where lotas are commonly used.



So, what you are saying is that there are public lotas in whatever place lotas are commonly used? To that I say, that is disgusting. You are basically trusting that nobody contaminated the lota before you used it. What kind of system is that? People essentially share a lota in public then.

Now you have me confused as to the point in your original post. Here is what I think you originally wrote (I'm translating it):

It looks inefficient to use the lota system in America where everyone is using TP (esp in public restrooms).

To which I responded:
Um yea, in America even though I use the lota system, I can still use the TP system in a public restroom. Where is the inefficiency? Can you point it out to me?


Finally:

You have never used a lota. You have also never lived in a lota using area. The lota never gets contaminated simply because of how it is used. If you had ever used one, you would know that lota contamination is not an issue.

Getting shit all over your hands seems like a good deal of a hassle to me.

I've never gotten shit all over my hands. You clearly do not have an understanding of the lota system. All of you anti-lota system people are letting your imagination and disgust run away with you. I'm getting tired of countering your absurd claims: "Dirty water must get everywhere." "Scraping shit" etc., etc.

And some of you are just repeating the same stuff over and over, though its been responded to earlier in the thread.

 

[neutralgamer02]

Now you have me confused as to the point in your original post. Here is what I think you originally wrote (I'm translating it):

It looks inefficient to use the lota system in America where everyone is using TP (esp in public restrooms).

To which I responded:
Um yea, in America even though I use the lota system, I can still use the TP system in a public restroom. Where is the inefficiency? Can you point it out to me?


Finally:

You have never used a lota. You have also never lived in a lota using area. The lota never gets contaminated simply because of how it is used. If you had ever used one, you would know that lota contamination is not an issue.

Well, I was assuming that there are two systems that people essentially had to learn in Asia to clean their asses instead one just one. That is inefficient. Instead of just learning to how to use toilet paper, you have to know how to handle a lota as well. But, you said that there are public lotas so my point is moot.

Also, it doesn't matter if I haven't used a lota. What if someone enters the restroom, doesn't wash their hands, and uses a lota? That means bacteria is being transferred between people when they handle a lota. It is gross.

 

[gburgess10]

Well, I was assuming that there are two systems that people essentially had to learn in Asia to clean their asses instead one just one. That is inefficient. Instead of just learning to how to use toilet paper, you have to know how to handle a lota as well. But, you said that there are public lotas so my point is moot.

Also, it doesn't matter if I haven't used a lota. What if someone enters the restroom, doesn't wash their hands, and uses a lota? That means bacteria is being transferred between people when they handle a lota. It is gross.

So, lets take that case and apply it in America:

When a guy goes to a public restroom stall and opens the stall door without washing his hands, the bacteria go on the handle. Then when the next guy uses the handle, he gets them too.

Really, you need to wash your hands after you shit. Not before. The right hand that uses the lota almost never gets dirty unless absolutely necessary in the course of work. It is the left hand that gets dirty, and that does not handle the lota at all.

But continue posting "That's disgusting" and"That's gross" in every post, I enjoy thinking everything out for you and repeating the previous contents of the thread so that you don't have to read it.

And finally IT DOES matter if you have or have not used a lota. Because then you would already understand everything and not ask these questions.

 

[Joel Was Right]

I agree, but even then...there's a difference between holding your dick with 2 or 3 fingers...and scooping shit out of your ass.

fuck man, urine is sterile. shit, on the other hand...

It doesn't involving scooping anything out. You rinse with water and quickly brush off anything on your butt cheek

 

[xelios]

It doesn't involving scooping anything out. You rinse with water and quickly brush off anything on your butt cheek

What if it's the kind that doesn't rinse? You know, the sticky, smeary kind that takes a lot of pressure to remove. Everyone has it from time to time.

 

[gburgess10]

What if it's the kind that doesn't rinse? You know, the sticky, smeary kind that takes a lot of pressure to remove. Everyone has it from time to time.

That's when you use TP first. Really, the water pressure/stream from the lota does most of the work, the hand is there just to give a slight nudge. And generally you need some small amounts of TP to dry off your ass anyway.

 

[RustyNails]

I agree, but even then...there's a difference between holding your dick with 2 or 3 fingers...and scooping shit out of your ass.

It doesn't matter. It's the same thing. Would you be ok with shaking hands of a guy who squeezed and tucked his dong in the urinal? What if he had dried cum flakes on his dick? So please, spare me the righteous indignation. Washing your hands after you relieve yourself is a common standard for hygiene, regardless of whether you grabbed your cock or fingered your asshole.

 

[Joel Was Right]

What if it's the kind that doesn't rinse? You know, the sticky, smeary kind that takes a lot of pressure to remove. Everyone has it from time to time.

You gotta do what you have to do. I don't want faeces in between my butt cheeks. I'd rather clean it off with my hand, and wash my hand extensively afterwards.

There's no debate.

 

[xelios]

I don't want faeces in between my butt cheeks. I'd rather clean it off with my hand, and wash my hand extensively afterwards.

Oooook. I'll take the options that work just as well and don't involve hand to feces contact.