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[Salmonax]

And finally IT DOES matter if you have or have not used a lota. Because then you would already understand everything and not ask these questions

Why is it considered a faux pas to use your left hand in many lota countries if the process leaves your hand clean? Limiting the everyday use of one hand seems to speak volumes about the overall confidence in the cleanliness of the process.

 

[Sennorin]

How about NOT touching shit with your hands? Sounds like a plan, doesn´t it?!

 

[gburgess10]

How about NOT touching shit with your hands? Sounds like a plan, doesn´t it?!

How about you live and let live? Let me know how that plan sounds.

Why is it considered a faux pas to use your left hand in many lota countries if the process leaves your hand clean? Limiting the everyday use of one hand seems to speak volumes about the overall confidence in the cleanliness of the process.

Why is pork forbidden to be eaten as well?

I guess it says a lot about pork making a man sick.

That custom was created before soap was cheaply and widely available- just like how pork used to spoil very easily and make people sick when pork was originally forbidden.

 

[Barberetti]

Are left handed people allowed to use their left hand for eating and their right for wiping instead?

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Whole lota love in this thread.

 

[totowhoa]

lol I had no idea so many westerners were ignorant of how the rest of the world wiped their asses. I've only left the country once (Mexico) and I'm pretty sure me and most everybody I've known have always been well aware that much of the population uses their hand.

That said, toilet paper + moist towelettes > hand + water.

 

[hateradio]

How about NOT touching shit with your hands? Sounds like a plan, doesn´t it?!

If only they knew about gloves.

 

[Sennorin]

lol I had no idea so many westerners were ignorant of how the rest of the world wiped their asses. I've only left the country once (Mexico) and I'm pretty sure me and most everybody I've known have always been well aware that much of the population uses their hand.

That said, toilet paper + moist towelettes > hand + water.

I guess us westerners had some good will left when it comes to this planet´s karmic balance. Wrongly so :/

 

[Salmonax]

That custom was created before soap was cheaply and widely available- just like how pork used to spoil very easily and make people sick when pork was originally forbidden.

Point taken. I'd still have a confidence issue with the hygiene of others, but I guess that applies to either system to a greater or lesser extent.

 

[LordCanti]

Reading through this thread, I'm kind of horrified at the thought of people using the shower to wipe their ass. No one does this, right? Right? Guys?

 

[Barberetti]

Reading through this thread, I'm kind of horrified at the thought of people using the shower to wipe their ass. No one does this, right? Right? Guys?

After the revelations of the last 24 hours, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some people wipe their arse with a live badger.

 

[hateradio]

After the revelations of the last 24 hours, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some people wipe their arse with a live badger.

Chinchillas are so much softer though.

 

[MetalAlien]

After the revelations of the last 24 hours, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some people wipe their arse with a live badger.

There's gotta be porn of that.

 

[neutralgamer02]

So, lets take that case and apply it in America:

When a guy goes to a public restroom stall and opens the stall door without washing his hands, the bacteria go on the handle. Then when the next guy uses the handle, he gets them too.

Really, you need to wash your hands after you shit. Not before. The right hand that uses the lota almost never gets dirty unless absolutely necessary in the course of work. It is the left hand that gets dirty, and that does not handle the lota at all.

But continue posting "That's disgusting" and"That's gross" in every post, I enjoy thinking everything out for you and repeating the previous contents of the thread so that you don't have to read it.

And finally IT DOES matter if you have or have not used a lota. Because then you would already understand everything and not ask these questions.

I am not really asking you the questions. I am asking it, then answering it myself. See my previous post. The only question I asked you is whether there are public lotas in Asia or not seeing as even if I used a lota I could know that without living in Asia.

The disgusting/gross comments that I am making is really due to public restrooms in general. I wouldn't even use a public bar soap in some places in America, so the idea of touch a public lota that is used by other people seems distasteful to me. You may think everyone is a clean as you when using a public lota, but I doubt that is true. Also, touching a stall doesn't matter to me because I am not touch my body anytime before I wash my hands as I am leaving.

 

[gburgess10]

I am not really asking you the questions. I am asking it, then answering it myself. See my previous post. The only question I asked you is whether there are public lotas in Asia or not seeing as even if I used a lota I could know that without living in Asia.

The disgusting/gross comments that I am making is really due to public restrooms in general. I wouldn't even use a public bar soap in some places in America, so the idea of touch a public lota that is used by other people seems distasteful to me. You may think everyone is a clean as you when using a public lota, but I doubt that is true. Also, touching a stall doesn't matter to me because I am not touch my body anytime before I wash my hands as I am leaving.

So the lota users touch their bodies before washing their hands simply because they are different from you- that is what your comments imply. Otherwise why even mention this if you understood it.

And when you answer questions you ask yourself, its a good idea to know what you are talking about instead of imagining your version of reality.

 

[Bluth]

You gotta do what you have to do. I don't want faeces in between my butt cheeks. I'd rather clean it off with my hand, and wash my hand extensively afterwards.

There's no debate.

Or just use a baby wipe or wet toilet paper that works just as well and you don't have to touch your own shit.

 

[GavinGT]

Where does the stream of shitty water go as you use one of these? Do you literally have to hover directly over the toilet?

 

[LordCanti]

Where does the stream of shitty water go as you use one of these? Do you literally have to hover directly over the toilet?

I've never used one, and I hadn't heard of them before this thread, but I can say with certainty that you would use one over a toilet, so that the water goes in the toilet.

I don't think western poo could be washed away with a lota. Far too sticky and tar-esque.

 

[GavinGT]

I've never used one, and I hadn't heard of them before this thread, but I can say with certainty that you would use one over a toilet, so that the water goes in the toilet.

I don't think western poo could be washed away with a lota. Far too sticky and tar-esque.

I don't appreciate your poo stereotyping.

 

[LordCanti]

I don't appreciate your poo stereotyping.

Ok, after Taco Tuesday's it does become a bit more watery...as in actual water spraying out of your asshole like a fire hose.

 

[neutralgamer02]

So the lota users touch their bodies before washing their hands simply because they are different from you- that is what your comments imply. Otherwise why even mention this if you understood it.

And when you answer questions you ask yourself, its a good idea to know what you are talking about instead of imagining your version of reality.

The stall comment had nothing to do with anything else. I simply responded to your stall statement about why I don't think touching a stall is gross. It is the same as opening a bathroom door. Wash your hands before you leave.

About your imaging comment, I don't really know where in my posts I imagined something ridiculous. If you think using a public lota is clean, well more power to you. Doesn't really take much outlandish imagination to see how it can be unsanitary.

 

[RustyNails]

Ok, after Taco Tuesday's it does become a bit more watery...as in actual water spraying out of your asshole like a fire hose.

That's diarrhea.

 

[LordCanti]

That's diarrhea.

Indeed.

 

[Joel Was Right]

This has honestly been one of the most interesting threads on GAF I've ever come across. Who knew faeces would spurn 9 good pages of discussion

 

[cakefoo]

Imagination has nothing to do with reality. I've never had a mess. Maybe someone uncoordinated like you can make a mess, like you do with cereal on a regular basis.

That's fine if you think I do it "on a regular basis" even though I only said "once in a while." But yeah, go ahead and do that. When I do it I'm just glad it's milk and not shitty water.

How much are those baby wipes costing you yearly by the way bro? I know how much the lota cost me is definitely less. And more environmentally friendly.

Maybe like $20-30 a year. And they're probably about as environmentally harmful as toilet paper or kleenex or paper towels.

I took a nice shit an hour ago, and I laughed at the idea of dribbled water accomplishing the same scrubbing power as my hand with a wet wipe. I feel sorry for you if wet wipes aren't available in your country. They're great.

 

[cakefoo]

All of you anti-lota system people are letting your imagination and disgust run away with you. I'm getting tired of countering your absurd claims: "Dirty water must get everywhere." "Scraping shit" etc., etc.

I have read that to use the lota, you cup your hand near your asshole and put the spout into your hand and swish your hand around on your sphincter. Then you have to obviously be standing with your pants off over the toilet bowl, as water will be dripping down, some of it may even go down your leg. Shit doesn't just evaporate, it has to either transfer to your hand or fall in mid-air a couple feet to the bowl, or slide down your leg. It must really chap your ass to know that people are using moist wipes very efficiently and effortlessly. It's ok to be jealous.

 

[xelios]

How much are those baby wipes costing you yearly by the way bro? I know how much the lota cost me is definitely less. And more environmentally friendly.

Can't put a price on dignity, but if I could it'd be more than the cost of baby wipes.

 

[Barberetti]

Are left handed people allowed to use their left hand for eating and their right for wiping instead?

I'll assume that the answer to this is no then. What a surprise.

 

[cakefoo]

No one carries a lota to the bathroom, I don't know what ever gave you the impression anyone ever did. No one even implied that.

You kinda sorta said it yourself...

You know what I carry lota around to use in public restroom too, so I never have to use TP.

Have you see that guy? Carrying it to the bathroom? Yup, that's me bro.

I see now that you were joking, but that's not how I took it and that's what gave me the impression it actually happened.

What I'd like to know is, how you can say the lota method is faster than TP + wet wipes. How long does the lota method take you after you've decided all the kids have been dropped off at the pool, to achieve a level of cleanliness and dryness you're satisfied with? It only takes me maybe 20-30 seconds with wet wipes. Not to mention you have to FILL the lota and empty it, which leaves you about 10 seconds to actually clean your asshole and dry off. You're definitely not faster than me with wet wipes. Maybe you're just really uncoordinated with wipes, or your wipes really suck. I don't know how wipes could take you longer than a lota otherwise.

 

[immortal-joe]

In my part of the world no bathroom is complete without a bidet, but for my money the Japanese have come up with the best method:

It's like the bidet is attached to the toilet ---- genius!!!!

 

[LordCanti]

In my part of the world no bathroom is complete without a bidet, but for my money the Japanese have come up with the best method:

It's like the bidet is attached to the toilet ---- genius!!!!

Stand alone bidets creep the hell out of me. You're supposed to shit, and then duck walk over to the bidet, where you wash your ass. Then duck walk back over to the toilet to use TP?

What happens if crap falls off between the toilet and the bidet? Bleh.

I do kind of want a washlet though...

 

[xelios]

In my part of the world no bathroom is complete without a bidet, but for my money the Japanese have come up with the best method:

It's like the bidet is attached to the toilet ---- genius!!!!

Now make it insert into the anus and spray Lysol and it will be perfect.

 

[immortal-joe]

Stand alone bidets creep the hell out of me. You're supposed to shit, and then duck walk over to the bidet, where you wash your ass. Then duck walk back over to the toilet to use TP?

What happens if crap falls off between the toilet and the bidet? Bleh.

I do kind of want a washlet though...

No no no - you wipe with toilet paper over the toilet, then move over to the bidet to wash up. With a good washlet (with powerful enough pressure) you can mostly skip the wiping part and only use the toilet paper to dry up.

That's what makes it brilliant.

 

[neutralgamer02]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7xGzkzwP7E

Maybe in theory it would seem more effective, but I still need to see someone actually use a lota. Preferable a woman.

 

[LordCanti]

No no no - you wipe with toilet paper over the toilet, then move over to the bidet to wash up. With a good washlet (with powerful enough pressure) you can mostly skip the wiping part and only use the toilet paper to dry up.

That's what makes it brilliant.

Oh, so it's the opposite of a lota then? Lota use was explained here as applying water, and then cleaning the remaining shit with your hand.

The bidet method makes more sense. The washlet (combination bidet/toilet) makes the most sense of all.

 

[immortal-joe]

Oh, so it's the opposite of a lota then? Lota use was explained here as applying water, and then cleaning the remaining shit with your hand.

The bidet method makes more sense. The washlet (combination bidet/toilet) makes the most sense of all.

The bidet is never combined with "hand wiping" of any kind (Thank GOD).

Glad I added one more to the washlet cult - one day brother, we will rule the world, and our asses will be sparkling clean while we do it!

 

[agrajag]

using your bare hand to wash your ass is nasty as fuck.

 

[Rorschach]

So I rub this and then ask the genie to wipe my ass, right?

lol

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

How is this even a question? I'll take the option where I am not rubbing my hand in shit, please.

 

[Kermit The Dog]

After the revelations of the last 24 hours, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some people wipe their arse with a live badger.

I laughed for ages.

 

[Codeblue]

Yes, you have E.coli on them no matter what system you use. Do you have a point you are trying to make besides that?

That you are much less at risk of infection if you aren't directly contacting the bacteria? There's a difference in the volume of bacteria on normal surfaces and in feces.

 

[smurfx]

the funnel part is used for water while hands are use to clean it out. same way if your hands are dirty, use the water to wash it off .

do you boil your hand after?

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Listen. Toilet paper was invented so people wouldn't have to use stuff like a "lota" or leaves or something. It's the next step on the evolutionary ladder.

 

[zoukka]

So I take, none of the TP folk ever touch their buttcrack while showering.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

I guess this explains that one Seinfeld gag I've always been confused about.

 

[Yocke]

So I take, none of the TP folk ever touch their buttcrack while showering.

Of course. But that's after the shit has been wiped off.

 

[zoukka]

Of course. But that's after the shit has been wiped off.

Well you are still most likely touching your own shit, which was the whole counter argument most users here had against lota. I understand it's not as bad after wiping, but still I think it negates the principle of never touching the deadly fecal matter.

 

[questionmark]

Well you are still most likely touching your own shit, which was the whole counter argument most users here had against lota. I understand it's not as bad after wiping, but still I think it negates the principle of never touching the deadly fecal matter.

No. Not even fucking close.

I would rather doom the world than wipe my ass with my hand.

 

[Philia]

I have a question? I read through the first 5 pages of this thread and saw that it was regarded as taboo in muslim? to use your left hand for anything other than to use it to clean your ass with.

At this point, why is it taboo and obviously would you know by now that its not effectively clean as it would seem?

Yeah, toilet paper all the way.

 

[HisshouBuraiKen]

Toilet Paper.

Isn't a Japanese toilet the best of both worlds? I never understood why these never took off worldwide. The heated toilet seats alone should have billions of these worldwide.

Yes it is. I imagine the main reason they haven't taken off yet is that they're very expensive, upwards of $500 per unit. Small price to pay for a happy poopy time IMO.