rackham
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I think they're slight exaggerations but everyone who I've played and talked with up till now hated them and had nothing good to say about them
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LTTP: Bloodborne (was robbed)
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DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I played this for all of 5 minutes due to being a framerate/I hate CA snob... I'll give it an open-minded go next time... Something to look forward to!
Jawbreaker
Member
Oh man, you need to get the DLC right away. You haven't seen anything yet.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
I LOVED Bloodborne so I bought the DLC like everyone recommended. It's definitely worth it. It's a very memorable part of the game, however it's not without it's flaws. There is an area in the game that can be described as nearly unfair or just plain un-fun. Thankfully it doesn't last too long.
I'm fairly similar, but I found that if I cranked up the sharpness on my TV the blurriness caused by the CA is greatly diminished. Just play with your TV settings until it looks better to you.
I'm fairly similar, but I found that if I cranked up the sharpness on my TV the blurriness caused by the CA is greatly diminished. Just play with your TV settings until it looks better to you.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Better late than never. Don't worry!
Yeah that could be why. Dark Souls supports different playstyles, not just hiding and tanking. You can play without a shield and two-hand your weapon and dodge everything, if you want.
Demon's Souls did that for me and now I can't get enough of Soulsborne games.
Nioh, dude. The beta was awesome and it'll be right up your alley.
Get the DLC first. Then I would suggest playing each Dark Souls game in order, but if that's not practical right now, get Dark Souls 3.
Fortunately GAF was wise here at least.
But mainstream press snubbed it for various reasons (exclusive, too hard, not enough explicit story-telling, etc.).As someone who owns the OST I disagree, the soundtrack is spectacular. Sound design in these games is just top-notch.
But it is. It's not identical but you cannot deny the obvious influence. And if someone craves a Souls x Onimusha mashup, Nioh is perfect.
Huh?
What are you even doing?
I actually beat that one on my first try almost by accident. I was messing around with it to get familiar with the moveset, and all of the sudden we got to the second phase and I realized I actually had a decent chance to win right there and then. Like others have said, the trick is to get in close and then stand still when the boss jumps.
Defiled Watchdog, on the other hand, took me 30+ tries. At least that boss was a fair fight though. Fuck Pthumerian Descendant and especially fuck his pillar-clipping ranged attack.
Finished the game myself just last night for the first time. Will likely pick up the DLC and do another play through while waiting for DS3 DLC. Absolutely amazing game and better atmosphere. World creeped the utter shit out of me several times in ways resident evil and it's like never could. Honestly after finishing it I'm just as amazed in also didn't win GOTY. Was it up against TW3? I forget really. Even if it was against that game... Damn I dunno there is something about BB that is really fucking good. Can't believe I didn't play it sooner. Only reason I tried it at all is my friend bought it for me and insisted I play it now that I'd finished the other 4 souls games.
Cert.in.Death
Member
Get the DLC first thing (you already know you love Bloodborne and there's more of it out there to experience, so go for it).
As for the next game, I remain in the Dark Souls camp of best Souls game, but going back to that style of play will definitely leave you dissatisfied. That said, Dark Souls features the best narrative/lore, boss designs/encounters, and level design of the franchise and you'll always beat yourself up over why everybody tells you that it's an all-timer. Plus, it sports, IMO, the greatest post-launch DLC of any game ever (but that's mainly because it was supposed to exist in the base game but was omitted for budget concerns).
Also, Bloodborne was robbed. But not by me (GOTY 2015).
As for the next game, I remain in the Dark Souls camp of best Souls game, but going back to that style of play will definitely leave you dissatisfied. That said, Dark Souls features the best narrative/lore, boss designs/encounters, and level design of the franchise and you'll always beat yourself up over why everybody tells you that it's an all-timer. Plus, it sports, IMO, the greatest post-launch DLC of any game ever (but that's mainly because it was supposed to exist in the base game but was omitted for budget concerns).
Also, Bloodborne was robbed. But not by me (GOTY 2015).
sir_kevith
Member
I didn't play BB until this year and went straight into DS3 afterwards. Funny enough I also got the game for cheap because Amazon refunded me for it since it came late and I didn't even ask them to. It was one day late and I wasn't in a rush or anything.
I also recommend the Old Hunters. I think the boss fights in BB destroy the ones in DS3 but I kind of like the more standard RPG systems in DS3 more. It's just easier to upgrade weapons try a variety of builds in DS3. BB probably is the better game with a much tighter design though.
I also recommend the Old Hunters. I think the boss fights in BB destroy the ones in DS3 but I kind of like the more standard RPG systems in DS3 more. It's just easier to upgrade weapons try a variety of builds in DS3. BB probably is the better game with a much tighter design though.
vitalogy11
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Is there anyway you can play Dark Souls on PC?
With just like 2 or 3 simple mods, Dark Souls on PC runs at 60 and can have amazing HD textures.
I like Bloodborne, but that first Dark Souls game is life changing. Yes it's a bit slower but you don't have to play it slow, you can get fast weapons and put stats into that style of combat.
Bloodborne has good level design, but to me what they did in level design Dark Souls is a miracle.
30 hours in after I went to the depths of hell, through a poisoned underground mining community, through a 10 story high waterfall and opened a door to a tower that lead me back to where I spent the first 20 mins of the game. It's all connected and layed out, yet you travel to entirely different worlds in each new zone.
With just like 2 or 3 simple mods, Dark Souls on PC runs at 60 and can have amazing HD textures.
I like Bloodborne, but that first Dark Souls game is life changing. Yes it's a bit slower but you don't have to play it slow, you can get fast weapons and put stats into that style of combat.
Bloodborne has good level design, but to me what they did in level design Dark Souls is a miracle.
30 hours in after I went to the depths of hell, through a poisoned underground mining community, through a 10 story high waterfall and opened a door to a tower that lead me back to where I spent the first 20 mins of the game. It's all connected and layed out, yet you travel to entirely different worlds in each new zone.
It's silly to proclaim something that's contrary to popular opinion, cease this madness OP!
Not sure but I think he foolishly thinks that the PRO could run BB at 60 FPS and it doesn't because it needs to run at the same FPS in online on both consoles.
Coriolanus
Banned
Amygdala, whether regular or defiled, will almost always jump if you hang around in her back, hitting its tail. When it jumps, if you stand still, her head will land right beside you every single time, allowing one to two high damage hits.
All you gotta do is make her jump, hit the head, run towards her tail, and keep hitting it until she jumps again. Repeat until dead.
Defiled watchdog was pretty similar to the second undead giant you face, what with one mistake and you might very well die.
what annoyed me greatly was dying, like, 10 times to a defiled FCR man-eating boar >__>
I can definitely understand the sentiment about Frontier/Nightmare of Mensis, but tbh most games get really annoying for me towards the end. Once I had pushed through those once, they weren't nearly as annoying for me when I had to revisit them. Those stupid brain enemies though with the Frenzy... Die in a FIRE.
Yeah I can. My wife has a nice PC for work. I find it hard to sit down at a PC to play games though and I'm not sure it'll run on my laptop. I'll probably give it a go anyway, because I dropped out of Dark Souls at Blight Town on the 360 so I'm guessing the lighting and frame rate were what did it for me.
JudgmentJay
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Radical Edward
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I approve. Everyone needs to get this game. Especially , if you liked BB
I can see that. Framerate has never been a big deal for me if it stays around 30. 60 is always nice, but it's not a deal breaker for me.
This is interesting to me, because aren't they just good games? I haven't really experienced this as somebody who has largely lived on the outside of these games. The only thing I can really compare it to is the Zelda fan base, but people just love those games because they're great.
It is exactly that. Don't pay much attention to these.
Anyways I can't believe people hate Nightmare of Mensis. It's probably my favorite area in the game, it encapsulates in an amazing climax (culminated with Gehrman) everything that makes the game great. The level design and art direction are utterly fantastic.
Just got done with my second play through. I had more fun than I did the first time, which is great. What stands out to me the most though is not the gameplay, but the level design. It grates on my nerves when the fanbase calls for every new project of FROM to be a Souls game, but the level design is something I hope they keep in their games. They are up there with the best.
Sadly I'm getting burned out on the game. I'm doing the dlc and while it's excellent, I've gotten my fill of the game.
And GAF is never gonna let that loss go, will it? I've played both games twice. Witcher deserved every award it got, sorry folks.
Sadly I'm getting burned out on the game. I'm doing the dlc and while it's excellent, I've gotten my fill of the game.
And GAF is never gonna let that loss go, will it? I've played both games twice. Witcher deserved every award it got, sorry folks.
DealWithIt
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Bloodborne and ToH DLC have the best boss fights, potentially in any game, but definitely in Souls. If it had working PvP it would probably be perfect.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
These things are subjevtive. I found the lore, boss fights, and DLC to be far superior in Bloodborne. Bloodborne is also far more consistent in terms of quality and doesnt have any encounters as badly designed as the Capra Demon.
Pvp was fine IMO. Better than DS3.
He was talking about the DLC specifically. There is an area in there that isn't so great, but one tiny mis-step in a masterpiece is easily forgiven in my opinion.
Also, re: Dark Souls... I played it for the first time on PC and loved it, but never finished it as I moved out of the country and couldn't take my desktop with me so I sold it. I tried playing on the 360 after that and it was such a miserable experience that I couldn't do it. I made it to Blighttown and gave up because of how framey it was. So definitely check it out on PC if you're interested. It's on sale for $5 pretty frequently.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
No it wasn't. They still need to fix the framerate and ds3 is a better game in every way.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Except for the whole deal of being unable to fight fairly againts other people (invader always has an HP penalty), no signs, etc...
Maybe if BB had the quality of life improvements of DS2 or even DS3, yeah. A shame.
Horsemama1956
Member
I think quite a few people say BB is like DMC with From art on here. Personally I keep BB and Souls separate and I hope From does the same. Would personally prefer multiplat games instead of sorta half assing an exclusive like they did with BB.
Link_enfant
Member
Right before OP posted this thread, I decided to buy the GOTY edition of the game for 30€ as it was on sale. The GOTY cover we got in Europe looks awesome too (don't know if it's the same as the US one).
I haven't played it yet (I'm on Uncharted 4 currently), but I can't wait to get though it. The more I hear about Bloodborne, the more I wonder how I could do without it until now.
Dark Souls III was my first Souls game actually, and I've spent more than 90 hours into it. A lot of deaths of course, but eventually I could beat all the bosses and I had such a great time with it.
Is there any chance I could enjoy Bloodborne less because I've completed Dark Souls 3 before it?
I haven't played it yet (I'm on Uncharted 4 currently), but I can't wait to get though it. The more I hear about Bloodborne, the more I wonder how I could do without it until now.
Dark Souls III was my first Souls game actually, and I've spent more than 90 hours into it. A lot of deaths of course, but eventually I could beat all the bosses and I had such a great time with it.
Is there any chance I could enjoy Bloodborne less because I've completed Dark Souls 3 before it?
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Just remember that even though people call them SoulsBorne and they share a lot of similarities, they are also very different. I think the rule of thumb is if you like one of them, you'll like the others too. I could never get into Dark Souls over the years but I went back to it after Bloodborne and loved it.
But HP penalty exists on DS3 invasions too. Lacks of signs is true though.
What bothers me on DS3 PvP is like it's tuned like BB but missing what made BB PvP work, the gun (yes, pointing at insta estus chugging and rolling forever).
I'm pretty sure you'll like it. The biggest difference is that it has less build diversity and less gear and weapons, but weapons are more "focused" and varied between themselves, and the trick modes are pretty neat.
From what I can tell, they play to different strengths. You'll probably be fine.
Here's your tiny applause for only reading the thread title. *clap*
shortsoptional
Member
Wat?
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Play that DLC brother. It's awesome.
Very good game...but a step back from the Dark Souls trilogy imo. Quite a few baffling game design decisions hold it back for me, like the blood vial system, the lamp system, lack of respec option, terrible multiplayer system and the awful chalice dungeons.
I hope this game gets a sequel to fix all these things as it definitely had my favorite setting and creature design among From's Souls games.
I hope this game gets a sequel to fix all these things as it definitely had my favorite setting and creature design among From's Souls games.
Just an fyi, you do not have to do the chalice dungeons. They are all optional. They are also pretty damn boring and save for a few bosses there's not much there for you. You should get the dlc, its really good but it is quite difficult and a step up in challenge from the main game.
OP already said he liked them in his first post.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Bloodborne won GotY over The Witcher III here on NeoGAF, so it's actually a pretty popular opinion on this site.
OP, definitely purchase The Old Hunters when you get the chance.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Best Souls game and it isn't even a Souls game.
Also lol at the idea that there's no room for a sequel when Souls literally (semi-effectively) recycled plotlines for three games. There's MUCH more room for an expansion of BB's universe, and plenty of gameplay refinements to be made as well.
Basically, Bloodborne 2 needs to happen and has every reason to.
As for BB v W3: the latter has difficulty holding my attention just because the setting and atmosphere are just fired for me. The gameplay is pretty solid, just not as satisfying or diverse as BB (or Souls in general). Also more traditional open world RPGs like W3 just aren't that fun for me.
Also lol at the idea that there's no room for a sequel when Souls literally (semi-effectively) recycled plotlines for three games. There's MUCH more room for an expansion of BB's universe, and plenty of gameplay refinements to be made as well.
Basically, Bloodborne 2 needs to happen and has every reason to.
As for BB v W3: the latter has difficulty holding my attention just because the setting and atmosphere are just fired for me. The gameplay is pretty solid, just not as satisfying or diverse as BB (or Souls in general). Also more traditional open world RPGs like W3 just aren't that fun for me.
darkslayer101
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Have been playing Souls since DeS and even with considering Bloodborne as Miyazaki's Magnum Opus, I still think witcher 3 is better. But then again I have been a fan of witcher since the first game.
Honestly its comes down to preference. If you prefer the standard open world rpg, then witcher. Gothic/Lovecraftian action game = Bloodborne.
All of these comments of Bloodborne getting robbed is understandable, but at least it got beat by witcher 3 rather than dragon age or some other triple A game.
Might be the most disappointing 8-9/10 ever made.
Subject matter was right up my alley, but I didn't like the two-step teleporting process or the blood vial system. Build variety was real low. I never did play the DLC tho.
Level design felt up and down and in my experience it was easier to get to optional places that were very difficult for the player than to the places you were supposed to go that had a smoother difficulty curve. Some really cheesy spots too anyway. I was one of the players that beat Gascan in about a minute in his first try and bloodsponged my way through the very final two bosses. Could have been my build tho. Hitboxes, camera issues, and framerate+motionblur+probably CA+quick animations made things difficult to read.
Not my GOTY, but it's Souls, so it was still good.
Witcher 3 is love.
Subject matter was right up my alley, but I didn't like the two-step teleporting process or the blood vial system. Build variety was real low. I never did play the DLC tho.
Level design felt up and down and in my experience it was easier to get to optional places that were very difficult for the player than to the places you were supposed to go that had a smoother difficulty curve. Some really cheesy spots too anyway. I was one of the players that beat Gascan in about a minute in his first try and bloodsponged my way through the very final two bosses. Could have been my build tho. Hitboxes, camera issues, and framerate+motionblur+probably CA+quick animations made things difficult to read.
Not my GOTY, but it's Souls, so it was still good.
Witcher 3 is love.
JudgmentJay
Member
Just someone mad at exclusives.
Listen, the game didn't get robbed. I absolutely loved it and finished or many times, yet I voted for TW3 because I loved that game even more. I don't believe difficulty has anything to do with it (and or certainly didn't in my case, I like difficult games and played TW3 on death march).
What it came down to for me at the end, was that BB, while excellent, was still a Souls game to me. Sure there are differences but in the grand scheme of things it's similar. I had already played hundreds of hours across 3 similar games since 2012. This lessened the impact (which was still pretty big admittedly). TW3 was also an incredible game that just felt fresher. I like them for different reasons but tw3 is one of the only games that I enjoyed so much that I felt depressed for a couple of days after finishing it.
What it came down to for me at the end, was that BB, while excellent, was still a Souls game to me. Sure there are differences but in the grand scheme of things it's similar. I had already played hundreds of hours across 3 similar games since 2012. This lessened the impact (which was still pretty big admittedly). TW3 was also an incredible game that just felt fresher. I like them for different reasons but tw3 is one of the only games that I enjoyed so much that I felt depressed for a couple of days after finishing it.